Another Problem With Multivitamin While On Dutasteride

[tysono]

Hey all, so I posted here a few weeks ago about my multivitamin affecting my hair. Basically I've been on dutasteride for almost a year now and it's pretty much halted my hair loss and made my hair grow in much thicker. However a few months ago I tried a mens performance multivitamin to try and help me with my side effects (which are in pretty minor form). These include a little bit of brain fog and forgetfulness and lowering of erection quality. Now after taking that multivitamin for a few days I actually was having much stronger erections and was able to maintain them for the whole time. The brain fog was lifted slightly which was also noticeable. However I also noticed my hair shedding more and getting a bit thinner, when the only thing I changed in my lifestyle was adding that multivitamin. So I stopped using it and just dealt with the side effects then I thought maybe the shedding of my hair was caused by a spike in testosterone from the zinc etc in the multivitamin, which is why I was having much better erections. So the other day I ended up buying just a basic multivitamin with no excess amounts in it to see if I would shed again. Anyway I've been taking it for the past week and I swear I can feel myself shedding while on the multivitamin still and my hair feels thinner. I've attached a photo of the ingredients of the multivitamin i'm taking now if anyone could help me out. Could it be because of the rise of testosterone or estrogen or something? Sucks because I feel so much better on them
Thanks

 

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I haven't seen anything about this elsewhere. Either you're just experiencing a mini shed outside of the multivitamin, which can happen on anti androgen treatment, or it's actually related. I would suggest you drop multi vitamins for a few weeks and see how your hair does.

 

[Ruby]

Zinc supplements boost gonadal testosterone production.
More testosterone means more DHT.
Androgen hypersensitivity is a b**ch.

 

[horunger]

Riduculous. I had stronger repeated erections since i started on duta. I hate vitamins, i eat deep fried foods twice a day, i avoid cereals, i never eat fiber, i drink alcohol till the morning 2 or 3x a week and sleep with lotsa cheap girls. Now tell me just how the no-fap crowd in this forum feeding themselves all the multivitamineral available are doing hair and erection wise??

Duta is known to increase testosterone and it still increases after 2 years on duta. Proven. Now what effects are proven from multivitamins except sh*t? Get real, the duta is doing that to millions of men, why should you get the same on duta for other reasons? Why are only YOU a statistical deviation? Apply occams razor, its the duta.

 

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I hate vitamins, i eat deep fried foods twice a day, i avoid cereals, i never eat fiber, i drink alcohol till the morning 2 or 3x a week and sleep with lotsa cheap girls

What a life!

 

[dralex]

Multis arent doing sh*t to your hair. Its all in your head.

 

[tysono]

Yeah I'm well aware it sounds stupid, but it can't just be coincidence now when this has happened 2 different times in 2 months? The fact that dutasteride does nothing but good for my hair when I'm not taking multis, then when I start taking them I shed on 2 separate occasions?

 

[tysono]

Anyone??

 

[Dazz_nz]

I cant fully relate since I dont take an internal anti-androgen appart from Pumpkin Seed Oil - But I can relate to the vitamin part - In the past I used to take Animal Pak multi since I was training hard and for me it increased shedding, I know it was that as I stopped a few times and when I started again I would shed more. But what I was taking has a full overkill of nutrients compared to that one you are using. I now just get everything from my food rather than a pill (well actually it was 13 pills for Animal pak per day), Instead I have a huge smoothie every morning which contains everything that you need regards macros, so maybe you might want to try that instead of man-made supplements. Theres a video listed in the first post of my thread if you want to check it out.

 

[tysono]

Yeah, like I can stop taking the multi and that will stop the shed and loss guaranteed
It's just the normal side effects I get will come back
Cant seem to win

 

[tysono]

Anyone have a solution? Really stressing out over what to do

 

[g.i joey]

I'd let the shed from the multi play out. There's no way it's gonna overpower finasteride/dutasteride imo

 

[tysono]

I'd let the shed from the multi play out. There's no way it's gonna overpower finasteride/dutasteride imo

Is there anything else I can do or take? Like taking the multi I feel like its raising my testosterone because I feel more horny, feel more aggressive etc and making my anxiety stronger. And when I'm not taking the multi I can tell my penis has less blood flow to it, it feels cold when flaccid (I can still get hard I just have less feeling) It's just decreased the density of my hair so rapidly it's crazy

 

[tysono]

Are you even sure your Dutasteride is legit? Maybe try a different brand of Multi Vitamins?

yeah it's just Avodart from a chemist? I have a prescription for it I don't buy it online
Yeah I've tried 2 different multis as well, might have to try more

 

[tysono]

Anyone?

 

[Dazz_nz]

Yeah, like I can stop taking the multi and that will stop the shed and loss guaranteed
It's just the normal side effects I get will come back
Cant seem to win

I dont think you got fully what I meant - you say taking the multivitamin counteracts the effects you are getting from dutasteride but it causes you to shed, try getting the same or similar values of what it contains via food instead of syntheticly - its possible, you just have to research what foods contain what, very easy via google. Synthetic sources of vitamins/minerals are nowhere near as good for you as getting from your diet and some people are more sensitive to them than others. I dont anything take along those lines now except biotin. Ive incorporated things into my diet that cover most the bases - simple examples - eating 1 brazil nut a day gives you your daily dose of selenium (if not more). Eating a few spoons of Blackstrap Molasses contains, Iron, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Copper + more.
Obviously its easier to be able to pop a pill and not have to do anything else, but if you are that sensitive to taking them then you have no choice than to make changes to your diet if you want to achieve the same thing. Thats why I suggested maybe a smoothie in the morning that contains most micronutrients and minerals, it means you dont have to drastically change the rest of your diet, if you put all the right stuff in it, then its the equivalent of taking a multivitamin except you are getting things from a real source.
But good luck with that....

 

[tysono]

I dont think you got fully what I meant - you say taking the multivitamin counteracts the effects you are getting from dutasteride but it causes you to shed, try getting the same or similar values of what it contains via food instead of syntheticly - its possible, you just have to research what foods contain what, very easy via google. Synthetic sources of vitamins/minerals are nowhere near as good for you as getting from your diet and some people are more sensitive to them than others. I dont anything take along those lines now except biotin. Ive incorporated things into my diet that cover most the bases - simple examples - eating 1 brazil nut a day gives you your daily dose of selenium (if not more). Eating a few spoons of Blackstrap Molasses contains, Iron, Calcium, Potassium, Magnesium, Copper + more.
Obviously its easier to be able to pop a pill and not have to do anything else, but if you are that sensitive to taking them then you have no choice than to make changes to your diet if you want to achieve the same thing. Thats why I suggested maybe a smoothie in the morning that contains most micronutrients and minerals, it means you dont have to drastically change the rest of your diet, if you put all the right stuff in it, then its the equivalent of taking a multivitamin except you are getting things from a real source.
But good luck with that....

Yeah I get that, but what I'm saying is taking a multivitamin, I can feel that it increases my testosterone to the point where my sexual side effects go away and so does my brain fog, but it causes me to shed. Whereas if I don't take the multivitamin I don't shed, but I have the side effects. I don't know what it is in the multivitamins that are having this effect on me but I can definitely feel a difference as stupid as it sounds. I just feel like when taking them I have much more circulation everywhere including my penis, whereas when I'm not taking them my penis feels cold and limp. Now I could drink smoothies and get my vitamins naturally, but would it have enough in it to allevitate my side effects like the multivitamins? Even if there's something I can specifically take for the lack of circulation in my penis I'd be insterested in. I'm just trying to get some answers as to why this is happening

 

[Dazz_nz]

Yeah I get that, but what I'm saying is taking a multivitamin, I can feel that it increases my testosterone to the point where my sexual side effects go away and so does my brain fog, but it causes me to shed. Whereas if I don't take the multivitamin I don't shed, but I have the side effects. I don't know what it is in the multivitamins that are having this effect on me but I can definitely feel a difference as stupid as it sounds. I just feel like when taking them I have much more circulation everywhere including my penis, whereas when I'm not taking them my penis feels cold and limp. Now I could drink smoothies and get my vitamins naturally, but would it have enough in it to allevitate my side effects like the multivitamins? Even if there's something I can specifically take for the lack of circulation in my penis I'd be insterested in. I'm just trying to get some answers as to why this is happening

It would be difficult to get everything thats in the multi into it without having to buy heaps of different stuff. Im not sure how well you eat etc but when my hairloss kicked in more then I completely changed my lifestyle and diet and its helped alot - not just for hair. My only other suggestions would be to get bloodwork done and get everything checked. See if you have any deficiencies etc even try supplementing something like Ginseng if the ED is what you are worried the most about. But Im not sure if something like that would work since it will be to do with hormones most likely since its obviously direct side effects from the dutasteride.
Thats why ive avoided finasteride and dutasteride as I didnt want to even take the risk of any sides like that from them. But I have started with RU lately and I seem to be a good responder to it so if all else fails, you could always try out something like and if it works for you and hopefully without the side effects.

 

[dralex]

Yeah I get that, but what I'm saying is taking a multivitamin, I can feel that it increases my testosterone to the point where my sexual side effects go away and so does my brain fog, but it causes me to shed. Whereas if I don't take the multivitamin I don't shed, but I have the side effects. I don't know what it is in the multivitamins that are having this effect on me but I can definitely feel a difference as stupid as it sounds. I just feel like when taking them I have much more circulation everywhere including my penis, whereas when I'm not taking them my penis feels cold and limp. Now I could drink smoothies and get my vitamins naturally, but would it have enough in it to allevitate my side effects like the multivitamins? Even if there's something I can specifically take for the lack of circulation in my penis I'd be insterested in. I'm just trying to get some answers as to why this is happening

Why would a multivitamin increase your testosterone levels unless you were already deficient in thus vitamin? Zinc could technically increase your testosterone, but won't really make a difference unless your deficient in zinc. You can raise your testosterone much higher from working out than from vitamins if you want to raise it in a different way. I get that you are saying it can't be a coincidence, and I agree I don't think it is, but I think it is literally all in your head. Every time you take the vitamin you think you're shedding more than normal, but really aren't, and every time you don't take the vitamin you think you're getting sides, but you really aren't. Wouldn't make sense that a multivitamin would have this great of an effect on you. They essentially do nothing if you are already getting all your vitamins from foods.