Being Red-pilled Undermined Season 2 Of Stranger Things

[Afro_Vacancy]

Season 2 of Stranger Things was significantly-above average television, I enjoyed it a lot. It was original, it had some good world building, some good characters and dialogue, some good laughs, some good chills, and the story and character arcs worked coherently. I recommend it.

However, one scene at the end of season 2 really pissed me off.

The nerds are attending a dance at the middle school, and one of the boys has just fixed his hair in an attempt to get better girls. This is meant to be an 1980s-nerd trying to fix up his hair to look cool, that makes sense storywise !

It's failing for him (as it would have in reality), the girls are preemptively rejecting away, running away from him while laughing and scorning while he's approaching. He doesn't even get to ask them out, except for one that he did get to ask to dance, and she got angry and walked away in disgust with her friends. He ends up sitting by himself at the end of the gym, it's all very realistic.

However, at the end one of the girls who is older than him (friends with his brother) feels sorry for him and dances with him. She tells him that girls their age are stupid, but that when they wisen up and get older, they will realize that he's a catch. His time will come:

I was annoyed by this scene yesterday as it undermined the realism of the rest of the scene. Women in fact do not get change much as they get older, they always care about looks. I thought it was cheesy. However, as I write it down this morning I realize that it may in fact be incredibly realistic, because that's what people say and believe. The show isn't saying that the nerd will get girls when he's older, the show is saying that other characters believe he will. That is how it works in the real world. Myself, I've been hearing that my time with women will come for nearly twenty years now.

 

[Roberto_72]

Myself, I've been hearing that my time with women will come for nearly twenty years now.

Ahhhaa
This made me laugh.
However Hollywood is the land of the blue pill. Even Matrix is a blue pill movie for many aspects.

 

[Dench57]

dustin is confident, he will get girls

strong cold approach game

 

[myusernamenow]

Women in fact do not get change much as they get older, they always care about looks

You don’t evaluate women differently now vs how you did at that age?

I was a vicious little sh*t toward girls when I was that age. Less vicious now, maybe. For example, one chubby girl who had a crush on me once showed up at my front door to ask me to the Sadie Hawkins dance. I said “lol no” and shut the door in her face.

It’s been my experience that a more nuanced view of others accompanies more life experience. I think that’s true for people of both genders.

I agree that looks remain fundamental, though.

 

[buckthorn]

It kinda sucks that he is a slayer of the upside down world and back in reality he's getting rejected by girls that still play with Barbies. f*** life.

 

[Rudiger]

So the girl is what like 14? And they do a weird sort of thing where she's like "the older woman" with more "experience"? Producers are perverts man I swear, as if we didn't know it lately, but they're always doing weird sh*t with kids.

But anyway girls standards become more realistic as they get older, sorry it hasn't been your reality David but there is a truth to it. I knew so many girls in high school that were fixated on their Chad, and the more coy and shy liked to pretend they'd get sexual with a certain Chad which was unrealistic, but they had no intention whatsoever of doing anything. I saw it plenty of times, one in particular there was like a 5/10 who would not shut up about this Chad friend of mine in a different year, what she'd do to him etc often kind of undermined me semi jokingly to reaffirm her love of this guy and what she'd to do to him etc. He got prime 7 or 8s regularly so I asked him anyway and he was up for getting with her when they next saw each other out (everyone went the same places) and when I told her that he's up for it she literally just kept talking to her friends and nervously laughing it off, I was literally like "helloooo?! Are you acknowledging this?!! The guy you won't shut up about actually wants to kiss you" and nothing back.

Fancying Chad gave her a sense of identity, being sexual with regards to him made her feel some weird power. When it came to it she didn't want her cherry popped whatsoever, at least not with a guy who would move on quickly and forget about her.

Anyway the point is that Chad hysteria is at it's height around that age up until about 19-22 and girls do actually mature. Contrary to red pill thought girls actually do get "hurt" by attachment to men who move on and forget them, they learn from this over time and that going for ultra Chad might get them the lay they want, but ultimately will leave them feeling foolish.

I mean even if you do believe women are never truly "hurt" well fine, in a more red pilled explanation they simply recognize their value of sex and use it to manipulate. When men take their valued commodity and move on, they feel their value decrease, and they feel stupid. Sometimes it's not attachment at all, they just feel of low value, and embarrassed around other girls who can keep a decent guy happy.

 

[BaldyBalderBald]

Nah Stranger things is D O P E, both seasons were amazing

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

So the girl is what like 14? And they do a weird sort of thing where she's like "the older woman" with more "experience"? Producers are perverts man I swear, as if we didn't know it lately, but they're always doing weird sh*t with kids.

I think that she's 14 and he's 12. It works on the show -- you should watch it. There's only been two seasons so it won't be a major life commitment for you to catch up.

But anyway girls standards become more realistic as they get older, sorry it hasn't been your reality David but there is a truth to it. I knew so many girls in high school that were fixated on their Chad, and the more coy and shy liked to pretend they'd get sexual with a certain Chad which was unrealistic, but they had no intention whatsoever of doing anything. I saw it plenty of times, one in particular there was like a 5/10 who would not shut up about this Chad friend of mine in a different year, what she'd do to him etc often kind of undermined me semi jokingly to reaffirm her love of this guy and what she'd to do to him etc. He got prime 7 or 8s regularly so I asked him anyway and he was up for getting with her when they next saw each other out (everyone went the same places) and when I told her that he's up for it she literally just kept talking to her friends and nervously laughing it off, I was literally like "helloooo?! Are you acknowledging this?!! The guy you won't shut up about actually wants to kiss you" and nothing back.

Fancying Chad gave her a sense of identity, being sexual with regards to him made her feel some weird power. When it came to it she didn't want her cherry popped whatsoever, at least not with a guy who would move on quickly and forget about her.

Anyway the point is that Chad hysteria is at it's height around that age up until about 19-22 and girls do actually mature. Contrary to red pill thought girls actually do get "hurt" by attachment to men who move on and forget them, they learn from this over time and that going for ultra Chad might get them the lay they want, but ultimately will leave them feeling foolish.

I mean even if you do believe women are never truly "hurt" well fine, in a more red pilled explanation they simply recognize their value of sex and use it to manipulate. When men take their valued commodity and move on, they feel their value decrease, and they feel stupid. Sometimes it's not attachment at all, they just feel of low value, and embarrassed around other girls who can keep a decent guy happy.

There might be a distinction between tolerating lower levels of conventional men, and willing to skinny dip in the nerd pool.

 

[Rudiger]

I think that she's 14 and he's 12. It works on the show -- you should watch it. There's only been two seasons so it won't be a major life commitment for you to catch up.


There might be a distinction between tolerating lower levels of conventional men, and willing to skinny dip in the nerd pool.

I watched the first 3 or 4 episodes, not for me.