Can Saborea Dermatitis Cause Hair Loss?

[Haironnu]

Can saborea dermatitis cause hair loss?

I read that it can, especially a diffuse pattern along with itchyness and tenderness scalp (which is exactly what I have) but then it doesn't really causes hair loss, and that what really might trigger hair loss is scratching the scalp due to the itchiness the condition causes.

anyone knows anything about this?

 

[Mitko1]

I don't know if it causes hair loss but I have both hair loss and seborrheic dermatitis. I don't know what triggered it. My hair started getting oilier, my scalp started itching more and more and developed larger dandruff flakes. I lost a bit of hair on the left side and I still hasn't recovered. It just started out of nowhere.

 

[badhabiz]

i'm afraid so.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6369642/

oxidative stress caused by inflammatory skin disorder like seborrheic dermatitis is one of the several patterns that can lead to hair loss.

if you suffer from oily scalp may i suggest you a small dosage of zix and dermarolling? try it if you can for a month

 

[-Synergy-]

Yeah and my hair is a perfect example of dermatitis related hair loss.

 

[Haironnu]

Yeah and my hair is a perfect example of dermatitis related hair loss.

but isn't dermatitis hair loss only temporary until you make it better with treatment? every source that says it can cause hair loss also says the hair grows back once the scalp gets better

 

[-Synergy-]

i'm afraid so.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6369642/

oxidative stress caused by inflammatory skin disorder like seborrheic dermatitis is one of the several patterns that can lead to hair loss.

if you suffer from oily scalp may i suggest you a small dosage of zix and dermarolling? try it if you can for a month

Zinc does seem to work even when taken orally. When I made zix though it kind of burned on my scalp and the p5p powder is a little to sticky for me. I could try using less though to see how it works.

but isn't dermatitis hair loss only temporary until you make it better with treatment? every source that says it can cause hair loss also says the hair grows back once the scalp gets better

Your first post was correct from my experience and studies I have read in that dermatitis does cause diffuse hair loss. The diffuse hair loss is not necessarily caused directly by dermatitis. The stress the skin is under from dermatitis triggers a telogen effluvium in some causing diffuse loss and itching will cause localized loss. The hair growing back can be a gamble if one is also experiencing male pattern hair loss. With male pattern hair loss preceding dermatitis and possibly Telogen Effluvium because the hair doesn’t have a healthy foundation to begin with.

 

[justbeconfident]

i have severe seborheic dermatitis and besides norwooding i started to harshly diffuse
seborheic dermatitis is easily treatable with shampoos like selsun blue, nizoral, kelual ds, kertyol pso
but my diffuse thinning hasnt stopped even when my head skin felt healthy
also i have brother, whod not wash hair for months sometimes, he'd have head full of dandruff, but still didnt shed hair at all
personally on top of everything i have extreme vit D deficiency, so i contemplate gettin onto heavily vit D medication and combine it with regular care for dermatitis with shampoos, might see some positive results in long run

 

[-Synergy-]

i have severe seborheic dermatitis and besides norwooding i started to harshly diffuse
seborheic dermatitis is easily treatable with shampoos like selsun blue, nizoral, kelual ds, kertyol pso
but my diffuse thinning hasnt stopped even when my head skin felt healthy
also i have brother, whod not wash hair for months sometimes, he'd have head full of dandruff, but still didnt shed hair at all
personally on top of everything i have extreme vit D deficiency, so i contemplate gettin onto heavily vit D medication and combine it with regular care for dermatitis with shampoos, might see some positive results in long run

Yeah my dad gets hard core dandruff like crazy bad and sheds but the guy is still a Norwood two at almost 60. Must have got the bad genes and none of the good ones for hair. My scalp feels way healthier than what it used to also but I still have hair loss and flaking. Our follicles are probably plugged or something with Telogen Effluvium still in the process.

 

[justbeconfident]

yeah, we are just fucked by genetics, brother
nothing scares me and shrinks my balls more than seeing my scalp skin through hair
our follicles are just too sensitive for dht and they slowly die out
anti angroges are the way to go, but its gamble, i tried that, but it gave me lipomastia, luckily it wasnt gyno or id prolly suicide by now
only one option left for me is minoxidil, i will try that and if nothing happens im not sure what im gona do, mb go into monastery and become a monk

 

[-Synergy-]

I haven’t heard of lipomastia but yeah minoxidil is my last shot aswell. I might go for the more potent stuff but that’s an absolute last resort. Lol only become a monk if the anti androgens don’t work and you can’t get it up anymore. Our stuff still works for now but our hair is dumb.

 

[justbeconfident]

nah, finasteride didnt work for me, so im still rapidly losing hair and have no treatment at the moment
whats ur situation like? whats ur Norwood/age/density/treatment?

 

[-Synergy-]

A few years back finasteride worked great. About a year ago i started losing a little hair and thinning slowly. Tried minoxidil but skin reacted badly. Now Im 24 and might aswell be bald if I can’t find something to save me immediately. I jumped onto dutasteride thinking it would be better but haven’t noticed a difference. Laser might have helped my inflammation but hasn’t been doing anything for my hair. I also did some Microneedling to loosen the skin.

Feels like over the past 10 months I’m slowing getting my arm sawed off. I had really thick hair before all of this.

 

[justbeconfident]

how did ur skin react to minoxidil, brotha? what brand, liquid/foam did u use?
idk, man, if minoxidil doesnt work for me or causes heavy sides then its over, i will be suicidal i think.

life didnt prepare me for this. whenever id go to barbers previously, they'd complain my hair is too thick and scissors cant cut it; none of my family members, nuclear or distant have had hair loss on male side. i didnt even think or know about this disease effect on ur life, i just knew bald people existed and thats it, but when it came into my life, it destroyed everything like hurricane.

im almost 26 and in our age balding is deathly for ur social and romantical life. life is literally ruthless, it doesnt forgive.

 

[-Synergy-]

I think the foam caused me dandruff but I was getting results before the dermatitis. I’m 90% sure that the dermatitis got far worse from using Kirkland and nizoral. The sulfate and the pg really dried my scalp and even caused my ear to crack open. I feel extremely suicidal and homicidal at the moment. I have dealt with real disfigurement in my life and had to have dozens of bones broken to correct it. Now I’m full of scars and losing all my hair.

I wasn’t prepared either for the many things that have happened to me. I’m 24 and when I let everything flash through my mind I feel empty, anger in my bones, and no control. If I was you I would think about counseling. I am going to force myself to see a counselor because this and everything else has been beyond too much to process.

Just try your best I guess so at least you can live a shitty life without regret. I don’t think other guys really care what you look like but it does probably send 50% of girls in the other direction.

 

[justbeconfident]

we should stay in touch tbh, our stories are similar tho im a bit younger, hair loss isnt my onyl cosmetic problem either, ive had to encounter genetic persistent acne for my entire life

yeah, life is ruthless, there's no consolation at the end for ur struggles, nobody gives a f*** if u die a broke schmuck bum, u either fight and win or u die, so only option is to try ur best as u said and if it doesnt work out, then its over, at least u knew u tried

ive had dermatitis naturally since ive been teenager, its just inherent to my skin, so what u said is a bit alarming, since i might have same result to harsh skype drying out

 

[-Synergy-]

Ok so I am going to try using formula 82m which contains a corticosteroid, antioxidants, anti inflammatories, and tretinoin to increase minoxidil results. They say is is formulated in a non irritating base but just in case that’s bs I plan to add a little water to lessen the alcohol concentration but the tretinoin should help the formula still be effective. I also plan on mixing up something to protect my scalp. The issue of dermatitis is caused from a defect in the skin that doesn’t hold moisture. I will use coconut oil to lock in moisture mixed with water and polysorbate 20. In the water I will add aloe Vera, green tea extract, cetrizine, l cysteine, caffeine, and niacin. Maybe some peppermint too for a cooling effect.

 

[justbeconfident]

hows life?

 

[badhabiz]

You may also want to give it a try for a couple of weeks (its pretty fast) with fenugreek, it calms the inflammation

 

[-Synergy-]

Well I hope you guys are doing better than me. I have been using formula 82m for a little over a month and don’t see anything as far as hair growth is concerned. Actually my hair looks worse than what it did before. On the up side, the 82m didn’t increase my scalp irritation. My scalp irritation seems for the most part neutral over the time of use. The chunks of flakes won’t get the hell away. I have a skin culture scheduled with a Doctor to know for 100% certain this is dermatitis or how to best treat it because steroids and anti fungals aren’t working. I’m also switching from 82m to a formula that contains twice the amount of ingredients in the same carrier. So 10% minoxidil, 0.01 tretinoin, 0.025 fluocinolone and I will just apply it once a day. Plan on buzzing my hair really short so that I can remove the flakes easier and make my scalp more healthy. I guess that’s the best I can do, you know?

 

[Alberto1988]

No, a friend of mine suffer of seborea sinse his 12-13’s and is full of hairs. As me he have to wash his hairs everydays