Circulation, it matters...but how much?

[karlg]

I am wondering how much of an impact on hair loss/growth circulation has?

It is obviously important, as your body needs to deliver oxygen and nutrients to the hair in order for healthy growth. But how much impact would drastically improving circulation have on the state of your hair.

Now i for one, probobly have pretty poor circulation, i drink, and i smoke (at work, sometimes 15 a day). I dont do a great deal of exercise either. When im applying topicals to my head, and i have one arm holding my hair apart (Above my head) i can feel blood draining from my arm, or i feel it get colder, when i put my arm back down to my side i can feel the blood literally going back into it, and my fingers go from white to a slightly pinker white (i have very pale skin anyway).

I am planning on cutting out the smoking, and replacing drinking in the evenings with going to the gym a few times a week, and doing mainly cardio exercises (like riding a bike etc..), however, i dont want to go into this for the sake of my hair and see NO improvement as it is disheartening, and i want to do this for health in general. If i go into a full on exercise regieme with high expectations and i see little or no improvement i'll get p*ssed off and wont stick to it, but if i go in with realistic/reasonably set expectations, and see that, i know i can stick with it.

So... Would improving circulation make THAT much of a difference?

The other thing is, if you improve circulation in your scalp, surely that means more DHT gets up there? Although, i could be wrong on this.

 

[s.a.f]

This is just an old myth. Plenty of people who do medically have poor circulation have a full head head of hair. Even poor circulation is'nt a cause of m.p.b. Trust me your follicles are getting an adequate blood supply. Is your hair growing (longer)?... is your donor hair ok? .... Yes? then circulation is fine.

 

[dougfunny]

still you should not let that discourage you from not smoking. or use e-cigarettes or something that does not give you cancer..

 

[Dylan1]

Mate with hand blanching when you raise your hands above your head, hair loss is the least of your worries. I would be more concerned about the risk of a heart attack or stroke. If you are already getting poor circulation in your arms which have medium sized arteries, what are you doing to your heart and brain, which have small arteries

Stop thinking about giving up smoking and just do it. Give up smoking. And get your cholesterol level checked

 

[karlg]

still you should not let that discourage you from not smoking. or use e-cigarettes or something that does not give you cancer..

I do have an E-Cigarette, they are alright, and i have tired using it as a substitute, but with no joy, i use it mainly when im out of smokes, and there are no shops open.

Stop thinking about giving up smoking and just do it. Give up smoking.

I know i know, it should be as easy as just stopping, and i have tired, i made it a whole 2 (very unstable) days before, i will keep trying though, i think the biggest problem is work, virtually everyone smokes, and the place reeks of it, not to mention it's very much a *thing* there too. I spend at least 5 days a week there, and it's a very stressfull job, and a huge trigger factor.

Mate with hand blanching when you raise your hands above your head, hair loss is the least of your worries. I would be more concerned about the risk of a heart attack or stroke. If you are already getting poor circulation in your arms which have medium sized arteries, what are you doing to your heart and brain, which have small arteries

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And get your cholesterol level checked

Thats what it's called! Just done some research on it... very worrying, i will be on the phone to the docters 2moz morning and get an appointment made. you mentioned if this is what it's doing to larger arteries, what's it doing to the smaller ones, and even though circulation isnt neceserily related to mbp, malutrition etc could weaken hair? if this problem was sorted, what are the chances of improvement?

F*ck, i know it's wrong, hair loss (or regrowth per se) is a huge motivator for me, yet death does not worry me in the slightest?...Damn...

 

[dougfunny]

still you should not let that discourage you from not smoking. or use e-cigarettes or something that does not give you cancer..

I do have an E-Cigarette, they are alright, and i have tired using it as a substitute, but with no joy, i use it mainly when im out of smokes, and there are no shops open.

what is different about them?

 

[karlg]

still you should not let that discourage you from not smoking. or use e-cigarettes or something that does not give you cancer..

I do have an E-Cigarette, they are alright, and i have tired using it as a substitute, but with no joy, i use it mainly when im out of smokes, and there are no shops open.

what is different about them?

Do you / Did you used to smoke? and have you ever tried one jw? Ummm, i mean you get the sense of inhaling, but it's not the same as smoke, its inhaling a vapor, not to mention it does not taste the same, although it does feed the nicotiene craving, it doesnt feed the habit if that makes any sense. The other thing is every now and then the cartridge will leak slightly, leaving a bit of a nasty taste in your mouth, every draw/drag you take on it doesnt always produce a mouth full of smoke, and sometimes you really have to lug on it.

I know someone else who has one and ive tried theres (with a fresh cartridge btw), and same thing, so i dont think it's mine that's defecive.

I like the idea but it just doesnt quite cut it.

 

[Hoppi]

Justin was actually saying that those who bald have typically less circulation in the scalp. I'm not sure if that is true or not, but as he's got me jogging every morning (starting tomorrow, although I said that yesterday xD) that should kick-start my circulation nicely!

 

[dougfunny]

Justin was actually saying that those who bald have typically less circulation in the scalp. I'm not sure if that is true or not, but as he's got me jogging every morning (starting tomorrow, although I said that yesterday xD) that should kick-start my circulation nicely!

Actually running is not likely to do much to your hair because the poor circulation rather comes from the pressure of your own head lying on the pillow when you sleep, which increases the vapor pressure into your head (everyone knows that temperature increases as pressure increases, and the more you sleep the more water is converted into vapor). As a result this vapor tends to shoot out by the first openings which come along, i.e. the hair follicles, this dislocates the hair shafts and leads to hair loss.

this is a joke.. right? (you never know on this forum...)

 

[s.a.f]

this is a joke.. right? (you never know on this forum...)

My thoughts exactly but then again thats how I view everything Hoppi has to say.

 

[dougfunny]

My thoughts exactly but then again thats how I view everything Hoppi has to say.

I dunno man... I do agree that the main cause of hair loss is bad diet... that being said, I have proofs to back up my claims and to support my theory... A friend of mine drinks plenty of water before going to bed so that he goes to the bathroom many times a night, this reduces the pressure. He said he thinks that his hairloss might have decreased a little, and there is no reason to not believe him.
Man, there are so many options available beside finasteride, such has not drinking water and drilling your skull, I cannot believe that some people are still loosing hair



Seaback

jesus christ that is a lot of smileys

and no, you do not have proof. one person is not proof. you have no way of knowing how his hair loss would have progressed without a special diet.

hair loss progression is so variable that it would take a study with 100s of participants to come to any consensus. thousands really, and even then trust me there would be a lot of skepticism based on the size of the trial.

Also, no offense but this is the stupidest theory i have ever heard in my entire life:

As a result this vapor tends to shoot out by the first openings which come along, i.e. the hair follicles, this dislocates the hair shafts and leads to hair loss.

:stupid:

 

[s.a.f]

Doug methinks he's yanking your chain! :woot:

 

[Nene]

My thoughts exactly but then again thats how I view everything Hoppi has to say.

I dunno man... I do agree that the main cause of hair loss is bad diet... that being said, I have proofs to back up my claims and to support my theory... A friend of mine drinks plenty of water before going to bed so that he goes to the bathroom many times a night, this reduces the pressure. He said he thinks that his hairloss might have decreased a little, and there is no reason to not believe him.
Man, there are so many options available beside finasteride, such has not drinking water and drilling your skull, I cannot believe that some people are still loosing hair



Seaback

jesus christ that is a lot of smileys

and no, you do not have proof. one person is not proof. you have no way of knowing how his hair loss would have progressed without a special diet.

hair loss progression is so variable that it would take a study with 100s of participants to come to any consensus. thousands really, and even then trust me there would be a lot of skepticism based on the size of the trial.

Also, no offense but this is the stupidest theory i have ever heard in my entire life:

[quote:1c85pchn]As a result this vapor tends to shoot out by the first openings which come along, i.e. the hair follicles, this dislocates the hair shafts and leads to hair loss.

:stupid:[/quote:1c85pchn]

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that was imitating a hoppi post.

 

[dougfunny]

Doug methinks he's yanking your chain! :woot: