Court Let Merck Hide Secrets About A Popular Drug’s Risks

Hairicane

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https://business.financialpost.com/...merck-hide-secrets-about-baldness-drugs-risks

This same article is all over google this morning. Pretty long article, i'm at half right now. But nothing really new i guess.

How do we know what happened to John Plaff wasn't due to something else? That it wouldn't have happened anyway? Is there evidence it was due to finasteride?

Why is it always guys taking it for baldness that have trouble? Millions take it for their prostate and those guys seem to be fine, as far as I know.

I hope these people don't screw around and Merck stops making Propecia. I need it to maintain my sanity.
 

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How do we know what happened to John Plaff wasn't due to something else? That it wouldn't have happened anyway? Is there evidence it was due to finasteride?

Why is it always guys taking it for baldness that have trouble? Millions take it for their prostate and those guys seem to be fine, as far as I know.

I hope these people don't screw around and Merck stops making Propecia. I need it to maintain my sanity.

Merck won’t stop making propecia it’s safe for the majority
 

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Merck won’t stop making propecia it’s safe for the majority

I don't even know if it's working for me but I swear id go crazy if I thought I had no chance of preventing baldness.

It's also strange that dutasteride is stronger but you hear of no lawsuits there. I guess since it's an off label hair loss treatment the plantiff wouldn't have a case.

Money grab, imo.
 

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I don't even know if it's working for me but I swear id go crazy if I thought I had no chance of preventing baldness.

It's also strange that dutasteride is stronger but you hear of no lawsuits there. I guess since it's an off label hair loss treatment the plantiff wouldn't have a case.

Money grab, imo.

There have been tons of lawsuits on almost all medications, it proves nothing.
 

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How do we know what happened to John Plaff wasn't due to something else? That it wouldn't have happened anyway? Is there evidence it was due to finasteride?

so much this.

maybe John Plaff was an alcoholic? pot-head? coke head? meth head? deeply closeted? addicted to gambling? in serious debt? tired of the wifey? unable to find a proper job? etc...

don't get me wrong, I'm on finasteride myself and some of the side-effects are definitely real but blaming one's poor mental health and suicide on a hair loss drug is such a lame cop out

this is an obvious money grab
 

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How do we know what happened to John Plaff wasn't due to something else? That it wouldn't have happened anyway? Is there evidence it was due to finasteride?

Why is it always guys taking it for baldness that have trouble? Millions take it for their prostate and those guys seem to be fine, as far as I know.

I hope these people don't screw around and Merck stops making Propecia. I need it to maintain my sanity.

yes ! it could be clearly anecdotal for this guy...

but you can't claim ''anecdotal'' when the same report come from thousand and thousand..

And i definitely don't believe at all that taking finasteride would make a man kill himself lol.

The ''suicide thing'' come from the ''ricochet aspect'' that can come with the drug : libido, sex, erection, etc

Getting hard erection and pleasing a woman sexually is how a male see himself. Actually reproduction is probably the strongest aspect in DNA of males (animals and human).

So yeah i definitely believe that a man let's say for the past 3 years could not get a decent and long erection and can not please any woman could ends his life.

And i one saw the stat about the age group of people taking proscar for prostate cancer and it is mostly men in their 60s - 70s.. their libodo and erection are already mostly gone lol.. so we can't take this aspect.

And for the ''millions of millions and millions'' of people taking finasteride as a lot of people claims.. I really know where this is from.. actually the % of 18-99 + years old balding men taking the drug is extremely low :

some example :

in france every year : it concerns 30 000 men
in sweden : 15 000 men

The % must be really close in others developped occidental countries
 

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How do we know what happened to John Plaff wasn't due to something else? That it wouldn't have happened anyway? Is there evidence it was due to finasteride?

Why is it always guys taking it for baldness that have trouble? Millions take it for their prostate and those guys seem to be fine, as far as I know.

I hope these people don't screw around and Merck stops making Propecia. I need it to maintain my sanity.


If you look at the drug review sites you can see people who were prescribed this for BPH and plenty of them report the same side effects.
 

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Well don't take it if you don't want to. Im not trying to stop you.


I don’t care, I’ve already tried it. I’m just saying it’s not only the hair loss users.

Although I have seen quite a few reports that people don’t suffer the same sides on dutasteride after switching.
 

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I don’t care, I’ve already tried it. I’m just saying it’s not only the hair loss users.

Although I have seen quite a few reports that people don’t suffer the same sides on dutasteride after switching.
Fair enough.
 

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And don't bother in responding because i know for sure that most of you would have traded your life with the guevedoces life just to have a full head of hair, regardless of a semi penis-vagina and a lot more deformities because in the end, most of you don't use your dicks anyways... What's sad is that your gonna end up bald anyways, with finasteride or not because they were born like this and even with normal levels of Test at adulthood they still didn't go bald, in contrast to people who take finasteride and still are balding or go bald after a period of time! It's not like anybody could now anyways if finasteride has stopped hair loss or it's just the normal baldness pattern that everybody has, proof being all the people who stop balding at Norwood 2-3 or keep it for the rest of their lives without any medicine!

Why r u so mad? Let people treat their hairloss and maybe in the near future we might have a real cure or at least a treatment without sides.
 

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Lmao, keep coping tranny and enjoy your limp dick and boobies, your names says it all if we are still talking about retards lmao... From your first posts i knew your an incel so don't worry nobody gives a sh*t about you or your opinions anyways! Go talk to your friend Peterson cos it seems you kind of have the same mentality, maybe even same height and dick size who knows....

I knew it from start who is gonna comment and what because i'm smart and i lurked a lot this forums before i started posting and i knew it from then who dominates it and what agendas or mentalities they have, so try harder, what matters is that by tomorrow i will move on with my life and you will still be here for the rest of your life ingesting tranny pills and having a limp dick and that says a lot!
Hair loss is caused by androgens. DHT isnt the only androgen. Block all androgens and you stop hair loss. Its as simple as that, but some people are not willing to do that, because of certain sides.
If you dont agree with taking drugs for hair loss, then leave. Hair loss progresses in a similar way to prostate cancer. You cant simply use natural remedies to treat cancer, neither can you for hair loss.
Either you modify your hormones/effects, or you accept your destiny, shut the f*** up and let people decide what they want to risk for hair, and believe me, you dont know its value until you loose it.
Nothing is delivered on a silver plate. Risk and reward is the name of this game, game called life.
 

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Hair loss is caused by androgens. DHT isnt the only androgen. Block all androgens and you stop hair loss. Its as simple as that, but some people are not willing to do that, because of certain sides.
If you dont agree with taking drugs for hair loss, then leave. Hair loss progresses in a similar way to prostate cancer. You cant simply use natural remedies to treat cancer, neither can you for hair loss.
Either you modify your hormones/effects, or you accept your destiny, shut the f*** up and let people decide what they want to risk for hair, and believe me, you dont know its value until you loose it.
Nothing is delivered on a silver plate. Risk and reward is the name of this game, game called life.

Would you yourself be willing to block all androgens to stop your hair loss ?
 

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Prostate cancer progresses because of hormones activating the AR, the same way hair loss progresses. Both are not exactly the same, but are similar.
Test and DHT are both androgens, DHT is the most potent one. You can explain it this way: people who have deficiency in 5AR reductase dont loose their hair because T is much less powerfull than DHT. DHT makes you "fall", and T makes you jump on yout broken legs after you "fell". DHT attacks the hair follicles with the most damage, somehow launching the miniaturization process which continues even if DHT is blocked, like people who take duta and still loose hair. This way of thinking is not necessarly true, but T and DHT are both androgens, and you must be dumb to not consider that T participate in the miniaturization process.

As to blocking all androgens, you can, relatively safely as well. You can just block thr androgenic characteristic of the receptor. Assuming you hit puberty long ago, this would affect you severly. You will get some sides, which probably you wont tolerate them, but I am ready to get these sides (which can be solved) and keep my hair for my whole life.
 

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You don't even know what emotions are Peterson, because you can't feel any when your so mentally ill as you are, and it's funny how your calling others mentally ill just to make yourself feel better about your disease... Go f*** yourself and speak with your other fellow incels i just blocked you, i wasted enough time in speaking with all the retards of this forum, it's more than enough!
What is your main account?
 
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