finasteride is a wonder drug

shookwun

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Anyone else notice over the years their hair has gotten progressively thicker, fuller, and much healthier looking. During my teenager years I always had a thin head of hair, very fine, and angel look so to speak. It's been about one year and six months since Iv'e been on finasteride non-stop, and It has literally made my hair go from fine calibre too normal density. Not thick, but nor thin. It's a gradual process, but it makes a huge difference. Looking back to friends that have known me for awhile, it got me thinking when a buddy I haven't seen in six months told me my hair looks a lot thicker.


I consume 1.25MG finasteride ED, rub minioxidil mixed with RU58841 solution all over temple points, and sides. Nizoral shampoo E7D.

It also helps when the hair is grown out, and it layers over giving overall a thicker mane.

Besides the variables of 5AR T to DHT conversion, and follicle sensitivity to androgens. Perhaps I'm not as sensitive as most, but it does make a world of a difference. Being on minioxidil alone, never changed much as the epidermis, and absorbtion of this drug into the blood stream isn't as successful as most think when topically applied. Finasteride on other hand is systematic, right to blood into the follicle.
 

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It's probably the minoxidil. I'm getting hairs all over my face and forehead from it.


Not a chance. Minioxidil is only applied on the sides, and temple points, no where else.

Plus unless you dunk your whole head into minixodidl, and RU58841 and topically inhibit DHT then you'll never be able to stop the breakdown of DHT into the follicle. /truth
 

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minoxidil works in more areas than just where you apply it. I'm not applying it to my face.

As for DHT... oh well. Had nothing to do with what I said.
it has all to do with it. DHT is what shrinks the follicle, making it gradually thinner, and wispier.
 
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have you had regrowth in your temple areas as well? Ive been on finasteride for 8 months, no crown loss that I can tell, but Ive got a nw2 on a high forehead and it looks fugly. finasteride hasnt helped temples the least bit.
 

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Reversed my temple loss miniaturization back to terminal hair. asides from that, maintenance.

A hair transplant is your only option if medication is stabilizing hair loss.
 

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have you had regrowth in your temple areas as well? Ive been on finasteride for 8 months, no crown loss that I can tell, but Ive got a nw2 on a high forehead and it looks fugly. finasteride hasnt helped temples the least bit.


So you want to go from NW2 to NW1? No chance with medication usually. I am like 2.5 but if these tinys hairs grow I can see myself being a lot closer to 2.
 

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So you want to go from NW2 to NW1? No chance with medication usually. I am like 2.5 but if these tinys hairs grow I can see myself being a lot closer to 2.

I think its possible, I've only been on Minoxidil almost 3 months now and finasteride just over 1 month and Ive already started to see my temples fill with like visible hair (not heaps but a few (10+)) not just the tiny hairs.. cause i have those growing all over my hairline + at my receding hairline so I'm very optimistic.

Mind you I only noticed my hairloss at 22ish when my hair started to thin heaps, I always knew I had a receding hairline even at 16/17, it just didnt get visibly that much worst and its interesting Ive asked at least 10 friends if they can tell I'm balding/receding and they say no... so clearly NW2 aint that bad yet.. saying that since my hairloss was recent maybe medication will work better? I don't know early days for me
 

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have you had regrowth in your temple areas as well? Ive been on finasteride for 8 months, no crown loss that I can tell, but Ive got a nw2 on a high forehead and it looks fugly. finasteride hasnt helped temples the least bit.

I did gain temple regrowth, but not on finasteride though. RU + minoxidil + retin-a + hydro;

http://s4.postimg.org/p0slvu0l9/DSC_0019.jpg (already being on treatments for some while, so it was even bit worse than this)

http://postimg.org/image/7xq0g8yrz/ Later in the process.

Temples are a b**ch though.
 

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I think its possible, I've only been on Minoxidil almost 3 months now and finasteride just over 1 month and Ive already started to see my temples fill with like visible hair (not heaps but a few (10+)) not just the tiny hairs.. cause i have those growing all over my hairline + at my receding hairline so I'm very optimistic.

Mind you I only noticed my hairloss at 22ish when my hair started to thin heaps, I always knew I had a receding hairline even at 16/17, it just didnt get visibly that much worst and its interesting Ive asked at least 10 friends if they can tell I'm balding/receding and they say no... so clearly NW2 aint that bad yet.. saying that since my hairloss was recent maybe medication will work better? I don't know early days for me

It's certainly possible dude just I rarely see people come on here saying they have gone from a receding hairline to their juvenile one. Sounds like you acted 5 years after you noticed, that's still recentish.

For me I started having a receding hairline at 24, did nothing till 28 but it didn't get much worse, started finasteride now. I seem to notice more and more vellus hairs in the mirror at the front, but it's no good unless they become terminal.
 

winnyblues

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It's certainly possible dude just I rarely see people come on here saying they have gone from a receding hairline to their juvenile one. Sounds like you acted 5 years after you noticed, that's still recentish.

For me I started having a receding hairline at 24, did nothing till 28 but it didn't get much worse, started finasteride now. I seem to notice more and more vellus hairs in the mirror at the front, but it's no good unless they become terminal.
I think we can both agree that we aren't going to go back to our juvenile hairline ever.. which sits fine with me so long as I don't go BALD at ****ing 28 like my cousin did. I think my receding hairline became noticeable to me last year so at age 22 and a half. It wasn't even that bad. I'm currently a NW2 with diffused thinning, but I'm optimistic and not worrying so much about it. How long ago did you start finasteride? I think I started medication at a good time, not too late so it wouldn't be worth it but if I started it at 20 I'd probably be happier but meh. I'm just worried that finasteride and minoxidil would stop working after like 10+ years but by than ill by 30+ so I'm not too fussed about being bald then only now.

I'd be happy maintaining what I have but thickening the top. My hairline isn't horrible even though I have a big forehead/high hairline **** it not the end of the world just yet.. plus I plan to have a hair transplant 5-10 years down the track anyway.. I just want to stay at NW2.. but I'd be pleasantly happy if things got better than that.

I did gain temple regrowth, but not on finasteride though. RU + minoxidil + retin-a + hydro;

http://s4.postimg.org/p0slvu0l9/DSC_0019.jpg (already being on treatments for some while, so it was even bit worse than this)

http://postimg.org/image/7xq0g8yrz/ Later in the process.

Temples are a b**ch though.

are those small hairs in the second image what you call terminal hair or vellus hair?
 

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Do you only apply RU to your temples?


Correct.

I think its possible, I've only been on Minoxidil almost 3 months now and finasteride just over 1 month and Ive already started to see my temples fill with like visible hair (not heaps but a few (10+)) not just the tiny hairs.. cause i have those growing all over my hairline + at my receding hairline so I'm very optimistic.

Mind you I only noticed my hairloss at 22ish when my hair started to thin heaps, I always knew I had a receding hairline even at 16/17, it just didnt get visibly that much worst and its interesting Ive asked at least 10 friends if they can tell I'm balding/receding and they say no... so clearly NW2 aint that bad yet.. saying that since my hairloss was recent maybe medication will work better? I don't know early days for me

Those hairs you categorize as growth are either hairs that are further thinning or follicles that are becoming terminal. Once the area is bare, nothing will grow back. The most medication will do is maintain, reverse miniaturization, and thicken existing hairs.

NW2 aint that bad because their is still hair to frame the face, but once the temples start going back and the points are gone, only then will you understand the full magnitude of how male pattern baldness ****s with facial aesthetics.
 

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I don't think that you can consider them terminal until they can grow at normal thickness and length. I have a **** ton of vellus hair, that can easily be seen, but they are not as dark as the rest of my hair and don't grow as fast or long as the rest. But it's a start maybe Swoops new hair will continue to get thicker and grow???

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I am thinking of adding RU to my regimen to see if I can get additional regrowth. I am on finasteride already though, so do any of you guys think it is really worth it or just a waste of money/time.
 

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Correct.



Those hairs you categorize as growth are either hairs that are further thinning or follicles that are becoming terminal. Once the area is bare, nothing will grow back. The most medication will do is maintain, reverse miniaturization, and thicken existing hairs.

NW2 aint that bad because their is still hair to frame the face, but once the temples start going back and the points are gone, only then will you understand the full magnitude of how male pattern baldness ****s with facial aesthetics.

How do people albeit rarely lower their hairline wi th just medication and no hair transplnt?
 

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2ML a day of RU58841 mixed with minioxidil at 5% strength would cost $535USD for a year supply. 12 months kirkland minioxidil $60 USD

So about $600 for a years supply


THe main weapon will always be dutasteride, and finasteride due to the facts it's systematic and goes directly in blood, and to the scalp. But Ru58841 is a great addittion to put in the arsenal for those spot point treatments, especially when you have male pattern baldness and it's fashion of loss is more linear then say DUPA, and DPA. Topically apply along hairline, and temple points, and you're golden. it's a topical androgen that inhibits DHT.
 

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Would you guys know if there is a possibility for finesteride to cause more hair loss? I took it starting January and results were noticable but then since augusts I have been shedding hair again. Has anyone experienced this before?
 

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It is amazing and it seems to have done wonders for my hair.

I'm still considering whether to add spironolactone or RU to my routine. Any thoughts?
 

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my brother is on finasteride 6 years and his hair shows no signs of thinning yet... finasteride is awesome if you dont suffer the side effects
 

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Guys what do you think about adding RU to see if I can fix the front of my hairline? Ordered dutasteride to see of that helps since I've read that in conjunction with finasteride (say finasteride 3-6x a week, dutasteride once a week) it works well. Also read that dutasteride works well on the hairline.
 

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Yes you definitely don't need to take it daily. I was on finasteride 1 mg EOD, now 0.6 daily, benefits still there and improving. In terms of growth at front: seems like dutasteride won't give you much over finasteride for this purpose. Worth a try but better to think of minoxidil (pain though) or a transplant. Unsure on Ru
 
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