Hair Loss After Minoxidil / Rogaine, Permanent / Worsened

[Oliver510]

It's not hard to find many members posting on these forums, reviewers on Amazon, stating one of two events happening or both:
1) Hair that shed after initially starting minoxidil(which is expected) did not return after continued use or after stopping use.
2) Minoxidil not only didn't improve hair in any way, but once they stopped using it their hair loss worsened.

What kind of f*****g deal is this stuff for a 30% success rate anyway?

 

[Secretlybatman]

This happened to me, Minoxidil only thins me out and I don't get regrowth so I've dropped it.

 

[Oliver510]

This happened to me, Minoxidil only thins me out and I don't get regrowth so I've dropped it.

How long did it take to thin you out and how long did you continue to use it after that? Did you regrow what minoxidil made you lose?

 

[Oliver510]

This really makes me hesitant to try minoxidil now.

 

[Oliver510]

It's on you bro but i regret it deeply. My hair was destroyed by it and i didn't have any hair loss since I'm on dutasteride and ru58841.

Where can I get the best quality RU58841? I just googled and came across Anagen Inc..

 

[Secretlybatman]

How long did it take to thin you out and how long did you continue to use it after that? Did you regrow what minoxidil made you lose?

First time i took it for almost a year, 2nd time 6 months. Yes I foolishly tried it twice in the hopes it would work. No i haven't regrown anything.

 

[Secretlybatman]

This really makes me hesitant to try minoxidil now.

I say don't knock it to you try it but if you only have very minor hairloss i'd personally say just take finasteride for now. Don't risk it till you have to. I'm incredibly jealous of those who min works for

 

[Oliver510]

I say don't knock it to you try it but if you only have very minor hairloss i'd personally say just take finasteride for now. Don't risk it till you have to. I'm incredibly jealous of those who min works for

I'm not really sure if my hairloss is bad enough to risk minoxidil, I guess I'll hold off, but after seeing what some are able to accomplish with minoxidil it makes me want to try it. I'd be interested in seeing photos of what minoxidil did to you.

 

[Pavi]

I have gained an entire Norwood from minoxidil only and I lose no more
Hair.... Are you guys giving it enough time? Applying it correctly? Not washing it out or sweating before 4 hours after application?

 

[Oliver510]

I have gained an entire Norwood from minoxidil only and I lose no more
Hair.... Are you guys giving it enough time? Applying it correctly? Not washing it out or sweating before 4 hours after application?

It's not that it didn't help them, it's that it made their hair loss worse.

 

[Pavi]

It's not that it didn't help them, it's that it made their hair loss worse.

That's impossible. Literally. They may have experienced a shed or the product didn't work for them making it seem like it was worsening it when in reality they didn't respond to it. Rogaine/min does not worsen hair loss. That's absurd.

 

[Oliver510]

That's impossible. Literally. They may have experienced a shed or the product didn't work for them making it seem like it was worsening it when in reality they didn't respond to it. Rogaine/min does not worsen hair loss. That's absurd.

I would think the same. My guess was that they experienced a shed but the product didn't work any further after that. It sounds unlikely but there seems to many people experiencing these cases.

 

[Oliver510]

The same happened to me. Rogaine Foam destroyed my hairline, now I'm a solid Norwood 4 with no chance to regrowth in the front. Shaving foam would have been more useful.

Are you sure it was Rogaine? As in you rapidly lost hair in the applied areas in the first few weeks on it?

 

[pegasus2]

It's not that it didn't help them, it's that it made their hair loss worse.

And what made their hair loss progress before they took minixidil? What makes you think it was the minoxidil instead of the continuation of the same process that got them to the point where they decided to try minoxidil in the first place?

If you come with a theory on why minoxidil would cause hair loss I'd love to hear it, as I experienced the same thing early on in my balding process. I just can't believe it when it's easily explained by the natural progression of Androgenetic Alopecia.

 

[Oliver510]

It freaks a lot of people out. But shedding doesn't indicate it's helping either. It could be the DHT is destroying the hair, because it's just too sensitive to DHT, that the Minoxidil is not helping.

Are you saying the minoxidil could initiate the shedding, but the DHT prevents a new cycle regardless of Minoxidil? Essentially overpowering any benefit minoxidil were to give as is to happen eventually? Although I may have read, and I'm not sure about this but I thought the new growing hair in anagen pushed out the old resting hair in telogen.

And what made their hair loss progress before they took minixidil? What makes you think it was the minoxidil instead of the continuation of the same process that got them to the point where they decided to try minoxidil in the first place?

If you come with a theory on why minoxidil would cause hair loss I'd love to hear it, as I experienced the same thing early on in my balding process. I just can't believe it when it's easily explained by the natural progression of Androgenetic Alopecia.

My theory is minoxidil through its unknown exact mechanism of action, causes hair in telogen to shed, but the effects of DHT prevent a new hair from growing regardless of minoxidil, essentially overpowering it since DHT eventually and continues to act on follicles even while using minoxidil as minoxidil doesn't effect DHT.

What has been your experience that you mentioned?

 

[pegasus2]

Are you saying the minoxidil could initiate the shedding, but the DHT prevents a new cycle regardless of Minoxidil? Essentially overpowering any benefit minoxidil were to give as is to happen eventually? Although I may have read, and I'm not sure about this but I thought the new growing hair in anagen pushed out the old resting hair in telogen.



My theory is minoxidil through its unknown exact mechanism of action, causes hair in telogen to shed, but the effects of DHT prevent a new hair from growing regardless of minoxidil, essentially overpowering it since DHT eventually and continues to act on follicles even while using minoxidil as minoxidil doesn't effect DHT.

What has been your experience that you mentioned?

I'm open to the idea that can happen if you stop using minoxidil after you shed, but before it grows back. Early on in my hairloss I used minoxidil alone for a short time. I didn't take pictures then and I didn't monitor it as closely as I do now, but I did seem to lose hair rapidly where I applied the minoxidil while never growing it back after quitting. I could see the possibility, so my advice is to get on minoxidil and stay on it.

 

[Oliver510]

I'm open to the idea that can happen if you stop using minoxidil after you shed, but before it grows back. Early on in my hairloss I used minoxidil alone for a short time. I didn't take pictures then and I didn't monitor it as closely as I do now, but I did seem to lose hair rapidly where I applied the minoxidil while never growing it back after quitting. I could see the possibility, so my advice is to get on minoxidil and stay on it.

But people describe this happening even after continuing minoxidil for months.

 

[pegasus2]

But people describe this happening even after continuing minoxidil for months.

That's not long enough to grow anything back usually. You need 6 months before it even starts growing back in a meaningful way.

 

[Derpicus]

50 days isn't even a adequate amount of time to give it to even show a chance of it responding.

You need to wait at least a minimum of 6 months to even begin to see results due to how the hair moves through the phases. It also warns that you may not respond and should discontinue the product if you see no results within a set amount of time.

Not just that using minoxidil on hairs and then discontinuing it will only hurt that area in question since when you keep applying that tropical you're making the hairs, as well as the surrounding hairs in the area dependent on that topical to a certain degree. A lot of people on here will even state do not consider getting on minoxidil unless you plan on using it for your lifetime.

 

[Aldrich]

First you need to be in the below 50% of people that actually respond to the treatment. Then there are variations of how good that response is. Then there's the up-to 25% (?) increase in hair growth IF you responded to it well. These are extremely shitty odds.

Anyway.

After quitting minoxidil you need 9+ months to fully recover. If you can't handle the 'dread shed' and being thinner for a couple of months, then don't quit. It's just a Telogen Effluvium shed, it will grow back (excluding the hairs that minoxidil stimulated). But, you might as well start with blood circulation exercises, head massage, and stuff like that. It has the exact same function, but less potent perhaps.