hair pieces in perspective

CCS

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Don't like glue on your scalp? Don't put gel in your hair either then; I'm sure it feels the same.

Don't have 30 minutes twice a week to work on your piece? Just get a buzz cut, cuz you don't have time to style any hair either.

Afraid to wear a piece? I'm more afraid to be thinning.

Afraid of getting caught? I'm afraid my natural hair will change angles and expose thinness, or I'll walk under a light, or I'll get Dermmatch on my fingernails when I scratch, or it will come off in the pool or shower when I'm with a woman. Pieces can be changed every 3 days and you can shampoo with on.

Feel unnatural? Join the rest of the cosmetic world. Jel, lipstick, hair spray, you know the deal. Don't wear a hat either since that is not natural.

Think $175 every 4 months is too much? For my front partials it is $190 every 8 months. Don't get hair grafts. Maybe get the buzz cut so you can save money on hair cuts too.

Love swimming? Then change your piece often so the glue is good enough for 5 second dunks. If you know you will be swimming, search for the thread BA wrote on how to bond it good.

Like 1 week camping trips? There are some tapes that last that long. Don't do that often though. Not showering is nasty.

Hate working hard to look good? Then buzz your beard once a week and don't spend as much time wiping your rear end. We all hate working so hard. But some things are worth working for, and good hair is one of them.

Afraid your girlfriend will dump you if she finds out? Try getting an equally pretty woman without the piece then, and worry about her dumping you for not having hair at all. There are trade offs. Just get the piece already. As a guy who had 3 hair graft procedures, I can tell you that grafts will not give you youthful hair. They will make you look better, but not nearly what you want. Look at the pic of a 50% density hair piece. That is the best you will get with grafts unless you are NW2 now and put a generous number of grafts into the very front.
 

s.a.f

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So when are you getting the answer to all your problems? (the piece)
 

CCS

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after my exams this week I'm going to start making my template and mail it in. Then I have 4-8 weeks for them to make it. I'll design a way to shave my head right. Then when it arrives, I'll shave and put it on. I'll have my glues and other supplies ready before it gets here.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
after my exams this week I'm going to start making my template and mail it in. Then I have 4-8 weeks for them to make it. I'll design a way to shave my head right. Then when it arrives, I'll shave and put it on. I'll have my glues and other supplies ready before it gets here.

Be sure to get a large stack of condoms before you put that piece on to prepare for the waves of females it attracts.
 

flimflam

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heh CCS is getting a wig?

My opinion: wearing a wig is the worst worst worst thing a balding man can do. There are plenty of women who like a shaved head/balding man, but I bet there are almost none that like a guy in a wig.
 

mulder

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flimflam said:
heh CCS is getting a wig?

My opinion: wearing a wig is the worst worst worst thing a balding man can do. There are plenty of women who like a shaved head/balding man, but I bet there are almost none that like a guy in a wig.


But you're totally ignoring how that guy actually looks.... And if the vast majority of people can't tell it's a wig than much of the stigma is just not there. A huge amount of the stigma with hair pieces is that people think they look like a cheap wig, most of them simply don't. Have you looked at the pics out there?
 

flimflam

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Yeah, I agree, I'm sure they can look great. But CCS is doing this to get a woman, who will inevitably discover it's a wig.
 

mulder

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Yeah, I agree, I'm sure they can look great. But CCS is doing this to get a woman, who will inevitably discover it's a wig.


But this is without the stigma of other people knowing...will it matter to her as much? I know most women would have a poor opinion of it, but I think if she knows you well that superficial stuff doesn't matter nearly as much...the superficial stuff matters with people who don't know you as well...and won't know you're wearing a hair piece....

I think it actually works out pretty well.
 

s.a.f

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Thats the thing with hairpieces as long as nobody knows they're f*****g fantastic but having one is a bit like owning pandora's box.
 

mulder

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s.a.f said:
Thats the thing with hairpieces as long as nobody knows they're f****ing fantastic but having one is a bit like owning pandora's box.


Have you ever worn a piece? Do you mean you feel like you're always harbouring some dark secret? or do you actually mean you have no idea how it will turn out?
 

s.a.f

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No I've never worn one i just could'nt. I've had hair transplant's and sometimes I can barely believe that I did that, but it was out of pure desperation. But a hair transplant will never accidently come off or be seen on the bedpost at night. If I was wearing one and people found out about it I'd have to quit my job and emmigrate. I've heard stories of hairpiece wearers who refuse to play sport or even go out in a strong wind. Also the maintenaice is too much of a hassle for me. But I think there are hair transplant guys and hairpiece guys and they will always have opposing views about their 'solution'.
 

mulder

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I would prefer a hairtransplant but my problem is thickness and realistically I'm not going to get that back with hair transplants. I really think people are silly when it comes to hair pieces...most people won't know and it doesn't that much effort to do it right. It's just the stigma of wearing one I think. I also don't think hair pieces are as rare as you think...
 

hairwegoagain

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A guy at my office wears one and has not made any disclosure. However, everyone...and I mean everyone...knows and has discussed it amongst themselves in an entertained fashion. I would not want to be the guy at the center of this discussion. It's one thing to wear one, recognizing that it's not quite right and that others WILL know despite trying to convince yourself otherwise... It's another thing to be clueless to that fact and feel like you're pulling off the charade of the century...because you aren't.
 

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hairwegoagain said:
A guy at my office wears one and has not made any disclosure. However, everyone...and I mean everyone...knows and has discussed it amongst themselves in an entertained fashion. I would not want to be the guy at the center of this discussion. It's one thing to wear one, recognizing that it's not quite right and that others WILL know despite trying to convince yourself otherwise... It's another thing to be clueless to that fact and feel like you're pulling off the charade of the century...because you aren't.

Are you saying that most people you see regularly will find out no matter how good your hairpiece looks? I'm guessing this guy's hair piece doesn't look too good- is the density wrong, is it too thick on top compared to the sides? Did he just not get it cut in properly? Is the colour off? There must be a reason a sufficient number of people were able to detect it. I think it takes effort all the time to make it look just right, and it will also take time to find the right system, but if you do this without increasing the density too quickly most people won't know...I think you're right that your closest friends and associates will probably find out sooner or later though.
 

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i'm not spending extra money on extra pieces to gradually change. I'll do the change in two parts. It won't be huge, but I guarantee my closer friends will notice that I have more hair. And i will tell those naiive NW1's that I just got a new hair cut and am using a great thickening shampoo. They will believe it.

There are no baldies in my classes. Just one former navy guy who is nw2, and he sits in the front and I sit in the back and we never talk to each other. None of them men in the class will figure it out. A few will notice I have more hair and forget the next day. Some may ask and I'll tell them the same thing.

It is the women who will notice the most. Women can smell baldies just as well as baldies can spot them. But women will still not be as knowledgeable about hair loss as we are, so i can probably give them a story if they ask. They will forget in a week, as long as it looks real. Or worse, they won't. They'll say "wow, his hair looks so good now." and be talking about it. Again, i just need a good story and a perfect attachment, and a few of them to inspect it with their fingers, and I'll be OK.

BTW, I made my template and will mail it an my hair samples and other direction and pictures in. 2 for $190, each lasting 4 months.
 

hairwegoagain

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mulder said:
Are you saying that most people you see regularly will find out no matter how good your hairpiece looks?

This is my belief, yes....and it won't take them long to find out...probably immediately.

I'm guessing this guy's hair piece doesn't look too good- is the density wrong, is it too thick on top compared to the sides? Did he just not get it cut in properly? Is the colour off?

Well, it looks "off," that's for sure. It doesn't make an in-your-face LOOK AT MY WIG statement, but one can tell that the guy has something going on up there. Honestly, it's not dissimilar from many of the pictures on the site that CCS has referenced. One probably wouldn't notice from across the room...but if you're face-to-face chatting, or looking over his shoulder when he's at his desk, you can't help but notice.

There must be a reason a sufficient number of people were able to detect it.

Honestly man I think that reason is simply that it's a wig. It's difficult to describe but it just looks "off." He's not the only guy I've run into with this going on. My profession has a lot of extremely vain people in it.

I think it takes effort all the time to make it look just right, and it will also take time to find the right system, but if you do this without increasing the density too quickly most people won't know...I think you're right that your closest friends and associates will probably find out sooner or later though.

Yes, I'd expect everyone you work with, your friends, family, and love interests not to be fooled...in other words, the ones that pay attention to you. I doubt many people will point at you on a busy street because most don't have interest in scrutinizing strangers.
 

mulder

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HWGA, did you actually notice it yourself first or did someone mention it to you first and then you noticed?

Are you even positive that he's wearing one?

IMO combovers are more likely to be mistaken as a hair piece than an actual decent quality hair system by the average person (who really doesn't know much at all about it).

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MichiganBaldy

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I dont think hairpieces are any end all, be all to the hairloss problem, but if done correctly they can and will
give you something good for the time being as you ponder hair transplant`s or other solutions.

Everyone will know only if it looks "off"

I have told people about mine and everyone of them were in disbelief, and told me they didnt know I had done anything, much less a rug. My brother, he always looks and says, "dude, I still can believe it, where does it start at? The front too? How do you do that?"

I show people my videos and they all tell me that they wouldnt have ever guessed, and in fact many of them go and get one for themselves after seeing mine.
And it wont come off. Those are the old days, the punchlines of jokes and television. I go down the highway at 70 mph with no helmet and it wont come off.

The guys that "everyone knows" about are guys who go the salons and clubs, get thick rugs made with synthetic hair and mesh bases superglued to their heads, spend like a zillion bucks a year on it, get frustrated and shave after a few years of this then go around spouting off that all hairpeices are easily noticed.
Make your own choices of course, but dont allow yourself to be swayed by the average frustrated guy who`s mindset is back to the 50`s era of hairpieces.
Its been a good experience for me, I meet plenty of women and get laid and all that which is important to us. The hairpeice is never an issue, its just another part of my clothing as far as I`m concerned.
 

hairwegoagain

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mulder said:
HWGA, did you actually notice it yourself first or did someone mention it to you first and then you noticed?

It's funny you ask, because I remember this very clearly...it was just a few months back, at a company conference, when I first met him. He is a recent transfer from another city, and I made it a point to track him down to welcome his imminent move to my regional office. We had a couple beers at the hotel bar. I noticed it at that time.

Are you even positive that he's wearing one?

Yep, I'd bet a lot of money on it.

IMO combovers are more likely to be mistaken as a hair piece than an actual decent quality hair system by the average person (who really doesn't know much at all about it).

Combovers are a whole different ball game. I agree, they scream boobery. I also agree that the "average" person, being a fleeting stranger, is not going to pay any attention to your hair whether you have a full head of natural hair, male pattern baldness, or a hairpiece.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try it if you want to, Mulder. I'm just suggesting you set your expectations such that you don't take an emotional hit when someone notices. Will you be able to stomach that without falling into an emotional death spiral and becoming detached from life? I'm not putting down guys of sound mind that for whatever reason want to go this route. The guy I describe above is a stand-up guy and I like him a lot. I would NEVER bring it up to him nor do I participate in behind the scenes mockery. I understand the desire for hair - that's why everyone is here. However, the desperate mental state of many of this forum's members often hangs on an ideal that is unlikely to materialize. I just want you to assess all of this up front and honestly forecast your ability to deal with the by-products of the decision.
 

s.a.f

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Nice post HWGA
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i'm not spending extra money on extra pieces to gradually change. I'll do the change in two parts. It won't be huge, but I guarantee my closer friends will notice that I have more hair. And i will tell those naiive NW1's that I just got a new hair cut and am using a great thickening shampoo. They will believe it.
(You hope)

It is the women who will notice the most. Women can smell baldies just as well as baldies can spot them. But women will still not be as knowledgeable about hair loss as we are, so i can probably give them a story if they ask. They will forget in a week, as long as it looks real. Or worse, they won't. They'll say "wow, his hair looks so good now."(You hope) and be talking about it. Again, i just need a good story and a perfect attachment, and a few of them to inspect it with their fingers, and I'll be OK.

CCS I hope you dont end up in the same position as the guy who works with HWGA. Thinking you've got away with it when in reality everyone knows.
 
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