I used to get laid all the time in high school...I get NOTHING now (not even fatties)

[melancholy]

Back when I was in high school and still had most of my hair, I got laid all the time. Hot girls, ugly girls, nerdy girls, goth girls, fat girls, skinny girls, war pigs, I ****ed em all. I was truly on top of the world. Part of me knew this wouldn't last forever, but I never thought I would fall so hard and fast.

I think I started losing my hair when I was like 16 but it wasn't noticeable until I was 19. By age 19, I was almost NW3. That's when getting girls because MUCH harder. It was a major struggle just to get fat girls. I became sexually invisible. People told me I looked much older than my age. Girls started to become more hostile to my approaches. I never got a one night stand from that moment on and all of the girls I got with (none of which were under 200 pounds) cheated on me.

When I was 24 I was NW4 and could not even get fat girls no matter how much effort I put in. I worked out obsessively and got a good body, I tried online dating, PUA, tanning, going to other countries, you name it. None of it helped me one iota.

I am now NW5 and 29 years old. I can't even get an obese woman well into her 30s!

I'm tall, I have good social skills, I'm interesting, I'm well-traveled, I have a lot going on for me, but none of that seems to matter to women.

 

[Quantum Cat]

welcome to the shallow world of women

maybe try men

 

[HairGuru22]

I am not surprised, if you go passed NW3 you are screwed when it comes to dating.

 

[Copeful]

No way this is because of your hair.
You must just not be as "hot" as you thought you were.

And if you're really looking ****dup now, then I suggest you go bald and wait for a cure. At NW5 there is really very little to "save" anyway. You'll look better clean shaved, start going to the gym, get a better clothing style, stop being insecure and you'll get girls again

 

[DannyBoyy]

No way this is because of your hair.
You must just not be as "hot" as you thought you were.

And if you're really looking ****dup now, then I suggest you go bald and wait for a cure. At NW5 there is really very little to "save" anyway. You'll look better clean shaved, start going to the gym, get a better clothing style, stop being insecure and you'll get girls again

Couldnt off said any better dude.

 

[Quantum Cat]

or shave it all off and find a good wig/hairpiece system

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what is a 'war pig' by the way?

 

[Primo]

Sounds like extreme trolling to me....

I mean you may be a NW5, but honestly if your social skills were actually as "good" as you make out, then there'd still be absolutely no reason for you to be settling exclusively for 200lb+ women.... especially given all the extra work you've allegedly put into your appearance, bulking up, tanning, good clothes etc...

Only 5% or less of men have genuinely good social skills/charisma/game and whatever else you want to call it.... The rest of us are just bog standard average, unless we work hard at it and practice regularly and consistently for years...

There is ALWAYS room for improvement in that area no matter who you are, or how "good" you think you are.

Put it this way, if you were in that 5% and ACTUALLY had good social skills, you wouldn't be on a Hairloss forum in the first place, you'd be out in the real world putting those "social skills" to use, having fun every day and not feeling insecure about women...

I've lost count of the number of guys venting in the impact section of this forum, who claim to have awesome "social skills" along with various other attributes... it gets a little hard to believe after a while!

I appreciate it's must be very tough being a NW5 at 29 and a NW3 at 19, but deluding yourself into thinking your social skills are already good enough will only make the experience more painful, and severely limit the amount of happiness you can get out of life.

What's the ****ing point of living if you can't experience regular happiness in your life?? Hence why constant improvement of social skills is a no brainer for everybody, regardless of their Norwood status.

 

[melancholy]

No way this is because of your hair.
You must just not be as "hot" as you thought you were.

So what is it then, and why was my decline perfectly lined up with how much hair I lost?

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Sounds like extreme trolling to me....

I mean you may be a NW5, but honestly if your social skills were actually as "good" as you make out, then there'd still be absolutely no reason for you to be settling exclusively for 200lb+ women.... especially given all the extra work you've allegedly put into your appearance, bulking up, tanning, good clothes etc...

Actually, I can no longer get 200lb+ women. And I can assure you my social skills are well above average.

Only 5% or less of men have genuinely good social skills/charisma/game and whatever else you want to call it....

Statistic made up on the spot to prove your point.

Put it this way, if you were in that 5% and ACTUALLY had good social skills, you wouldn't be on a Hairloss forum in the first place, you'd be out in the real world putting those "social skills" to use, having fun every day and not feeling insecure about women..

I used to be very successful with girls. Then I had to settle for women of lower and lower quality the more hair I lost until I was no longer able to get obese women. How do you explain my decline in success with women being in perfect alignment with my hair loss? My social skills were getting better, not vanishing, lol.

 

[resu]

I find it hard to believe, where are you from? What's this ultra high standards society that you live in?

 

[LawOfThelema]

maybe theres more to life than ****ing. Also as you hair goes your self esteem goes. Women are no more "shallow" than men. thats just sexist garbage that people are insecure about themselves tell themselves to feel better, but whats certain is no one likes to be around someone who doesnt like themselves, and people can detect low self esteem. find ways to feel better about yourself.

 

[melancholy]

I find it hard to believe, where are you from? What's this ultra high standards society that you live in?

I am originally from America, I lived in 4 different states in my adult life. I've also lived in Malaysia and Japan. Looks (which hair is a major part of) is extremely important no matter where you live.

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Also as you hair goes your self esteem goes.

My self esteem did not start to go until my success with women started to decline. You're getting the cause and effect mixed up. If women didn't care about hair, I wouldn't give a **** either.

 

[resu]

Come to south of europe then, women here don't care much about hair loss if you're tall, social, wealthy, connected... if you have other qualities than hair basically.

 

[Quantum Cat]

Melancohly, lets see a pic of your head

 

[melancholy]

Melancohly, lets see a pic of your head

Not sure what the point of that would be, I'm NW5, yes I know that's "bald" and yes I know there is not much to save as someone else said. I might as well just stop taking finasteride at this point.

 

[Jockson]

I'm not gonna tell you hair makes no difference because it does. But if you really have a lot going on for you as you're saying and you don't have a super ugly face, I don't really see how is this even possible.

 

[Quantum Cat]

Not sure what the point of that would be, I'm NW5, yes I know that's "bald" and yes I know there is not much to save as someone else said. I might as well just stop taking finasteride at this point.

because you may be BSing about the extent of your male pattern baldness. Plenty have before on here.

Post the proof

 

[dude77]

Back when I was in high school and still had most of my hair, I got laid all the time. Hot girls, ugly girls, nerdy girls, goth girls, fat girls, skinny girls, war pigs, I ****ed em all. I was truly on top of the world. Part of me knew this wouldn't last forever, but I never thought I would fall so hard and fast.

I think I started losing my hair when I was like 16 but it wasn't noticeable until I was 19. By age 19, I was almost NW3. That's when getting girls because MUCH harder. It was a major struggle just to get fat girls. I became sexually invisible. People told me I looked much older than my age. Girls started to become more hostile to my approaches. I never got a one night stand from that moment on and all of the girls I got with (none of which were under 200 pounds) cheated on me.

When I was 24 I was NW4 and could not even get fat girls no matter how much effort I put in. I worked out obsessively and got a good body, I tried online dating, PUA, tanning, going to other countries, you name it. None of it helped me one iota.

I am now NW5 and 29 years old. I can't even get an obese woman well into her 30s!

I'm tall, I have good social skills, I'm interesting, I'm well-traveled, I have a lot going on for me, but none of that seems to matter to women.

if that is true, you should have no problem getting laid .. at all .. seriously come on now .. what's probably happening is .. you're giving off the insecure signals .. instant attraction killer .. you need to be at peace with yourself and be ok with yourself .. otherwise your insecurity is going to reflect off other people and you're going to make other people uneasy and repel them(specifically talking about the opposite sex)

 

[melancholy]

if that is true, you should have no problem getting laid .. at all .. seriously come on now .. what's probably happening is .. you're giving off the insecure signals .. instant attraction killer .. you need to be at peace with yourself and be ok with yourself .. otherwise your insecurity is going to reflect off other people and you're going to make other people uneasy and repel them(specifically talking about the opposite sex)

You really want to rationalize this, huh?

I can tell you this is not the case at all, in fact, quite the opposite is true. When I first noticed I was balding I hardly even cared. I thought it was my personality and social skills that were getting me laid. It wasn't until AFTER I noticed women didn't want me anymore that I started thinking about my hair loss like that. In fact, for a while I was in denial about it, from age 19 to age 21 I still did not think it was my hair loss preventing my success even though in hindsight it was very obvious. I was shocked when I finally opened my eyes realized what was going on, I wanted some other explanation, but there was none.

I remember when I was 21-22 one of my friends tried to set me up with a really obese girl he didn't want. She straight up told him she didn't want me because I was bald. You probably think she just said that because of a "signal" I sent out. :roll:

 

[antman]

I’m actually inclined to believe you (melancholy).

Guys that have that arty, emo, pretty boy, ‘late night party guy’, ‘float through life’ eta attitude or want out to life – really get “hit hard” with hair loss. Hair loss becomes their most obvious factor – because it basically takes their identity away.

Guys who are really driven by sport, family orientation, career, or are tough / boss looking and or are famous or have something else going on - seem to get away with hair loss.
It’s like they are able to be “themselves” whilst being bald/balding and you can tell that they have something going for them – people really respect that.

If you’re a really social sort of guy; hair loss can really suck.
Maybe if you find something in life you really love – other people will pick-up on that passion and be more attracted to you.

I don’t if that helps - but either way hopefully things get better for you.

 

[Quantum Cat]

buzzcuts look good on some men, so balding isn't such an issue for them, but I've never ever had a buzzcut because I think it would make me look uglier and possibly more 'thuggish' - so that's why male pattern baldness worries me so much.

everybody who says 'it's all about confidence' are right of course - we all know that - but that doesn't make it any easier.

I'm planning to take up buddhism in order to be at peace with my male pattern baldness