Is finast the reason i have acne ?

Brokenwall

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Finasteride increases the amount of testosterone in the body, by inhibiting its conversion into DHT. And increased testosterone will increase acne.
 

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Brokenwall said:
Finasteride increases the amount of testosterone in the body, by inhibiting its conversion into DHT. And increased testosterone will increase acne.
Well, why do you ask when you posted it like a fact here? lol

Isn't it the increase in estrogene?
 

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I have noticed I get more spots on finasteride but nothing serious ... for some weird reason I get spots behind my ears :O
 

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Acne is a visible consequence of every normal body's reaction to hormonal disbalance. finasteride (if it works) causes hormonal disbalance to which your body needs time to adjust. If you have acne after you started taking finasteride, that is normal. Furthermore, you have one proof that the drug works on your body!
 

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... or your suffering from hyperandrogenicity and finasteride is about to really f*** your male pattern baldness up :)
 

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Empire said:
... or your suffering from hyperandrogenicity and finasteride is about to really f*ck your male pattern baldness up :)
could be the case, although rare.
If you suffer from large increase in acne, you should be aware of other signs of hyperandrogenecity (you can ask Empire, hes like wikipedia on that topic ;) ) and if you suspect you are among those very unlucky few to have hyperandrogenecity, then STOP taking the drug IMMEDIATELY... Or take the risk of losing much of your hair and sleek skin!
 

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Ok what the hell is hyperandrogenicity ??


edit after some searching

according to http://www.hairloss-research.org/faq.html


Some get some noticeable hyperandrogenicity, as evidenced by increased facial oil, pimples or unusually high libido

Most often any side effects dissipate within 2 or 3 months


Ok , I have had these side effects for the 2 1/2 years ive been using finasteride. I think I should quit asap , what do you guys think ?
 

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According to a post by empire

You start developing:

1. Oily forehead and oily scalp ( yes )
2. Possibly oily body
3. Acne break out ( f*****g yes )
4. Increased body hair ( my *** is a jungle now )
5. Increased sex drive ( yes )
6. Hair loss (your not shedding, your losing it quicker) ( not really )

So basically your f***ed. You'll be wanking 5 times a day from now on if you have hyperandrogenicity.


f*** ME i have been wanking at least several times a day since I started propecia !
I think I will quit this sh*t soon , what do you all think ?

But ever since I have been on propecia my hair has been the exact same. Just the crown got slightly worse.
 

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Brokenwall said:
According to a post by empire

You start developing:

1. Oily forehead and oily scalp ( yes )
2. Possibly oily body
3. Acne break out ( f****ing yes )
4. Increased body hair ( my *** is a jungle now )
5. Increased sex drive ( yes )
6. Hair loss (your not shedding, your losing it quicker) ( not really )

So basically your f***ed. You'll be wanking 5 times a day from now on if you have hyperandrogenicity.


f*ck ME i have been wanking at least several times a day since I started propecia !
I think I will quit this sh*t soon , what do you all think ?

But ever since I have been on propecia my hair has been the exact same. Just the crown got slightly worse.

Get OFF it ASAP.. welcome to the topicals world, next stop RU58841 or Flutamide.
 

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Reflex hyperandrogenicity due to antiandrogens is mostly a combination of increased testosterone plus an increased number of androgen receptors in the target tissue.

Because the action of 5-AR inhibitors is mostly specific to skin and the prostate, you can expereince reflex hyperandrogenicity even while getting the hair-growth-stimulating effects of finasteride. In fact, it may help minimize (say) the sexual side-effects of this drug.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD
 

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pproctor said:
Reflex hyperandrogenicity due to antiandrogens is mostly a combination of increased testosterone plus an increased number of androgen receptors in the target tissue.

Because the action of 5-AR inhibitors is mostly specific to skin and the prostate, you can expereince reflex hyperandrogenicity even while getting the hair-growth-stimulating effects of finasteride. In fact, it may help minimize (say) the sexual side-effects of this drug.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

But the degree of hyperandrogenicity may be stronger than the inhibition itself, rendering the drug useless and even harmful.
 

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Well thanks for the input. I have decided to quit propecia and minoxidil , i dont mind going bald anymore. :)
 

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Empire said:
pproctor said:
Reflex hyperandrogenicity due to antiandrogens is mostly a combination of increased testosterone plus an increased number of androgen receptors in the target tissue.

Because the action of 5-AR inhibitors is mostly specific to skin and the prostate, you can expereince reflex hyperandrogenicity even while getting the hair-growth-stimulating effects of finasteride. In fact, it may help minimize (say) the sexual side-effects of this drug.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

But the degree of hyperandrogenicity may be stronger than the inhibition itself, rendering the drug useless and even harmful.

This is correct. However, as I note elsewhere, because finasteride differentially protects hair follicles, finasteride-induced exacerbation of balding is unlikely in the absence of other hyperandrogenic sysmtoms. At least I hope so. OTOH, if (say) your acne flares on finasteride while your hair loss gets worse, you may want to reconsider treatment.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD
 

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pproctor said:
Empire said:
pproctor said:
Reflex hyperandrogenicity due to antiandrogens is mostly a combination of increased testosterone plus an increased number of androgen receptors in the target tissue.

Because the action of 5-AR inhibitors is mostly specific to skin and the prostate, you can expereince reflex hyperandrogenicity even while getting the hair-growth-stimulating effects of finasteride. In fact, it may help minimize (say) the sexual side-effects of this drug.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

But the degree of hyperandrogenicity may be stronger than the inhibition itself, rendering the drug useless and even harmful.

This is correct. However, as I note elsewhere, because finasteride differentially protects hair follicles, finasteride-induced exacerbation of balding is unlikely in the absence of other hyperandrogenic sysmtoms. At least I hope so. OTOH, if (say) your acne flares on finasteride while your hair loss gets worse, you may want to reconsider treatment.

Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD

I copt the ugly end of the stick.

- Increased oily scalp and flared acne
- Increased body hair
- Accelerated hair loss

Is there anything you know of that reverses HyperAndro? My blood test returned my DHT levels at 8.0 long after ceasation of treatment. My Testosterone levels at 600.. so both are way over the line.. I have twice the maximum DHT.

What to do.. What to do.
 

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I'm still not sure if I have RH, my face is a bit oily but its not slick oily and i only get the odd big pimple/zit on my face every now and then like on my chin or nose and my chest hair has decreased since being on finasteride but the hair going up my belly button is more or less the same.

My hair feels like it has become worse but when i take pics it doesn't look to bad,my sides feel a lot thinner as does the back of my head, i was thinking maybe i had a bout of Telogen Effluvium but i dont know anymore, is there anyway to propely test for RH? and how oily does your face have to be?
 

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Propecia ruined my life , literally , it caused the so called brain fog and was the reason I could barely concentrate, I almost failed out of college(serious). Honestly I feel like a fool for being a science major and knowing that side effects can occur.
 
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