Is Mgtow The Best Way To Go For Hair Loss Sufferers?

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I've been involved in three long term relationships, and I had sex with two girls casually already. I've seen their hypergamy up close, and have been cheated in two of my long term relationships.

Ever since my hairloss has increasingly gotten worse, my luck with women has gotten to a point where I'm treated like background. I'm not an ugly guy, but my hair loss has made such an impact to my looks, that even my personality it's not the same.

Now that I've been reading red pill content, and watching mgtow videos daily, honestly I could never bare another girl rip my heart out as they had in the past because now I also suffer from hairloss. I am really considering abandoning the dating scene and go mgtow already. I feel conflicted to do so, because I want to get laid a couple of times more before I call it quits. Problem is I already know I'd be doing it to pursue female validation but that's no longer a top priority of mine.

I'm doing extremely well in my job, was promoted very recently so I'm thinking I could finally go and give it a try... but something is stopping me and I don't know why. I want to quit validating myself for women, I know there is so much more to life, but at the same time I don't want to let it go yet. Have you ever considered this? Should I go mgtow already? I'd be so better off that way but I'm afraid to make the step.
 

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But seriously, what about a hair transplant? Life's unfair, but there are options out there.
 

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Women are what they are, doesn't mean you should give up on women all together because you got played.Yes hypergamy is real, don't hate the player hate the game my man. Get better at the game and this all will be no issue.

Now for the hair loss. How bad is it?
 

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Women are what they are, doesn't mean you should give up on women all together because you got played.Yes hypergamy is real, don't hate the player hate the game my man. Get better at the game and this all will be no issue.

Now for the hair loss. How bad is it?

Agree - find a decent woman who respects you (a cliche, but true), and you'll be a lot happier than being on your own (given your post) - THAT is your goal.
 

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I dont think it is as most of their members are often just bitter incels.

There are some elements of truth to mgtow - marriage is overrated, and don't pay for the women and all that stuff - but overall its just a load of noise from deeply unhappy men.
 

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No, go your own way, not the way of MGTOW, it's an ideology that shuns anything that doesn't support its views.

And remember that you can always take a break, you don't have to permanently decide to give up on women.
 

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I dont think it is as most of their members are often just bitter incels.

There are some elements of truth to mgtow - marriage is overrated, and don't pay for the women and all that stuff - but overall its just a load of noise from deeply unhappy men.

I was curious about why mgtow would say not to pay for women, and I read that the reason is that they deem it submissive. If that's accurate, I dont really agree with it... one could just as easily agrue that it puts women in a submissive position, being paid for. If the argument is that it's not fair, simply, though, then I could agree with that. In any case I paid for women on dates through like 20 years of dating and never felt submissive. :D

Anyway from what I can tell of this group I agree with your post.
 

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I was curious about why mgtow would say not to pay for women, and I read that the reason is that they deem it submissive. If that's accurate, I dont really agree with it... one could just as easily agrue that it puts women in a submissive position, being paid for. If the argument is that it's not fair, simply, though, then I could agree with that. In any case I paid for women on dates through like 20 years of dating and never felt submissive. :D

Anyway from what I can tell of this group I agree with your post.
You don't pay for women because why would you?

You wouldn't pay for a mans meal so why would you pay for a womans?

The criticism for paying for a date is that it makes it seem like you are buying their company
 

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You don't pay for women because why would you?

You wouldn't pay for a mans meal so why would you pay for a womans?

The criticism for paying for a date is that it makes it seem like you are buying their company

Ah I dunno. I've usually had a bit more money than women I've dated, probably. Feels a little romantic. Feels nice to take a woman out. Whatever. Never seen it as a big deal.
 

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Ah I dunno. I've usually had a bit more money than women I've dated, probably. Feels a little romantic. Feels nice to take a woman out. Whatever. Never seen it as a big deal.
In fairness, if I had plenty of money it would also be a non issue for me
 

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No, go your own way, not the way of MGTOW, it's an ideology that shuns anything that doesn't support its views.

And remember that you can always take a break, you don't have to permanently decide to give up on women.

That's the answer. To be honest, you can find better women than the one's you dated. Don't judge all women based on your experiences. For your own self-esteem, consider a hair transplant.
 

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Nah dude that'll just make you more depressed and nihilistic. Watch some Jordan Peterson or Sam Hyde, you'll feel better and have a clearer objective in life.
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f*** MGTOW, and you're welcome to read a shitload of posts I've made debating its points.

Long story short: MGTOW is an ideology that shifts blame for why a woman rejected you onto her and her supposed "nature", the nature in which they speak refers to biology of animals and insects and cannot be applied to humans in the same way. Most of their points can easily be disproved via statistics and historical examples.

Don't fall for it, come back to the light side of the force.
 

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I was curious about why mgtow would say not to pay for women, and I read that the reason is that they deem it submissive. If that's accurate, I dont really agree with it... one could just as easily agrue that it puts women in a submissive position, being paid for. If the argument is that it's not fair, simply, though, then I could agree with that. In any case I paid for women on dates through like 20 years of dating and never felt submissive. :D

Anyway from what I can tell of this group I agree with your post.

You don't pay for women because why would you?

You wouldn't pay for a mans meal so why would you pay for a womans?

The criticism for paying for a date is that it makes it seem like you are buying their company

Its kind of ironic because some women DONT let men pay because of feminist ideals of not wanting to be seem as submissive or controlled etc.

SO i think it depends on woman..i reach for purse--offer its never taken..few weeks ago I went with someone where we drove out of town for a date and I grabbed ticket and paid for it before he could because he had paid for so much already...but I am careful with this because a lot of men can feel emasculated if you pay for dates or insist on paying for dates...i offer--so far its never been accepted (I'm also older and dating men early 40s to early 50s)

Now that's dating but with Boyfriends/relationships it's different I have paid for a lot of things..I won't say 50/50 down line, definitely not but I was never really counting. It always felt organic the give/take of what we are giving one another or doing. I never fought about money or things like that with any of my relationships.
 

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Its kind of ironic because some women DONT let men pay because of feminist ideals of not wanting to be seem as submissive or controlled etc.

SO i think it depends on woman..i reach for purse--offer its never taken..few weeks ago I went with someone where we drove out of town for a date and I grabbed ticket and paid for it before he could because he had paid for so much already...but I am careful with this because a lot of men can feel emasculated if you pay for dates or insist on paying for dates...i offer--so far its never been accepted (I'm also older and dating men early 40s to early 50s)

Now that's dating but with Boyfriends/relationships it's different I have paid for a lot of things..I won't say 50/50 down line, definitely not but I was never really counting. It always felt organic the give/take of what we are giving one another or doing. I never fought about money or things like that with any of my relationships.
Most of my objection to paying from dates probably came from the fact that I didn't have that much money, but I had a simple way around it and that was to just go out for beers on the first date (or coffee).

Theoretically I also disagree with the men paying if they are dating professional women as you come at the date as equals.

Here in asia my view has softened because its the absolute norm for the man to be. Much more than that, I'm relatively wealthy here so I can afford to pay for dates without stressing about it.

In the UK taking a date out for a two course meal and a few drinks would be around £60.

In Vietnam its around £15-20.
 

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Most of my objection to paying from dates probably came from the fact that I didn't have that much money, but I had a simple way around it and that was to just go out for beers on the first date (or coffee).

Theoretically I also disagree with the men paying if they are dating professional women as you come at the date as equals.

Here in asia my view has softened because its the absolute norm for the man to be. Much more than that, I'm relatively wealthy here so I can afford to pay for dates without stressing about it.

In the UK taking a date out for a two course meal and a few drinks would be around £60.

In Vietnam its around £15-20.

I am curious.

How does it make you feel when you pay for dinner vs if you split it?
I have no judgment I am just curious if it makes you feel more romantic one way vs the other.
 

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I am curious.

How does it make you feel when you pay for dinner vs if you split it?
I have no judgment I am just curious if it makes you feel more romantic one way vs the other.
If we split it I feel like we are equals which is good - I don't want a power imbalance where one is seen as 'the breadwinner'.

Its all relative though: if I was a well off and I was dating a student then of course I would insist on paying. If I was dating someone who is wealthier than me or the same then I believe it should be equal.

Having said all that, I always make a token gesture to pay for it.
 

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If we split it I feel like we are equals which is good - I don't want a power imbalance where one is seen as 'the breadwinner'.

Its all relative though: if I was a well off and I was dating a student then of course I would insist on paying. If I was dating someone who is wealthier than me or the same then I believe it should be equal.

Having said all that, I always make a token gesture to pay for it.

You know what, there is no wrong/right you have to do what feels right for yourself.
 
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