is washing his hair often oder lesser better?

[atropos]

Hi!
I`ve read somewhere that if you wash your hair every day its not good because they become oily much sooner this way.
Is it okay if I only wash them every three days with nizoral? or is it bad if they are oily or dirty for hairloss?

 

[Bryan]

I`ve read somewhere that if you wash your hair every day its not good because they become oily much sooner this way.

That doesn't make any sense at all. If you wash your car every day, does it get dirtier faster than if you wash it only once a week?? :wink: :lol:

Bryan

 

[atropos]

I did not say dirty, but oily...

but how often ist best for hairloss? because everytime I wash my hear I lose many hairs.

 

[Bryan]

I did not say dirty, but oily...

I know that's what you said. And I stand by what _I_ said.

Bryan

 

[Goingat20]

Hi!
I`ve read somewhere that if you wash your hair every day its not good because they become oily much sooner this way.
Is it okay if I only wash them every three days with nizoral? or is it bad if they are oily or dirty for hairloss?

Its ok to wash your hair every day, but thats up to you. So you can look into using another shampoo on the days you dont use nizoral

 

[Felk]

Atropos, sind Sie Deutscher?

Ich hab gemerkt, dass Sie "ist" und "oder" geschrieben haben

Ich bin nicht ganz sicher, genau wie oft man Schampons benutzen sollte, aber es gibt eigentlich ein paar Schampons, die ein bisschen Haarwachstum geben koennen. (Wenn Sie Deutsch sind, koennen Sie mich hoffentlich verstehen. Vor einem Jahr war ich in Deutschland und leider habe ich mein Deutsch schon vergessen... )

Zum Beispiel: Nizoral und NANO.

Viel Glueck!

 

[sl]

Atropos, sind Sie Deutscher?

Ich hab gemerkt, dass Sie "ist" und "oder" geschrieben haben

Ich bin nicht ganz sicher, genau wie oft man Schampons benutzen sollte, aber es gibt eigentlich ein paar Schampons, die ein bisschen Haarwachstum geben koennen. (Wenn Sie Deutsch sind, koennen Sie mich hoffentlich verstehen. Vor einem Jahr war ich in Deutschland und leider habe ich mein Deutsch schon vergessen... )

Zum Beispiel: Nizoral und NANO.

Viel Glueck!

WHATTT :roll: lol

 

[yello911]

Hi!
I`ve read somewhere that if you wash your hair every day its not good because they become oily much sooner this way.
Is it okay if I only wash them every three days with nizoral? or is it bad if they are oily or dirty for hairloss?

I understand what you are saying. In response to washing off all your oils on your scalp, your body reacts by producing more oil.

I found that washing my hair everyday works best for me. If I don't my hair feels extra oily along with sebum build up on my scalp. Maybe if I let my body adjust it would be different.

So far so good with my hair though. I keep it really short, wash it once a day, and brush it often. Basically I brush it to massage my scalp. After a good brushing I can feel my scalp feels really warm and good.

 

[Bryan]

I understand what you are saying. In response to washing off all your oils on your scalp, your body reacts by producing more oil.

No it doesn't. Sebaceous glands secrete sebum continuously, without regard to what's sitting on the surface of your skin/scalp.

The old-fashioned idea that oil glands "react" to washing by producing more oil was disproved nearly 50 years ago by Kligman and Shelley, in an elaborate series of experiments. They dubbed it the "feedback theory", and since then there have been additional experiments, all disproving that notion. A lot of lay people continue to believe it, but they aren't familiar with the medical literature disproving it.

Bryan

 

[atropos]

@Felk
Hi! I am not from germany, but from austria. your german is really great! Way better than many native speakers. I was very tiered when I wrote this...so the mistakes

 

[atropos]

and what would be If I would wash my hair only every week? would it be bad for hairloss if the hair is oily and dirty?

 

[Goingat20]

and what would be If I would wash my hair only every week? would it be bad for hairloss if the hair is oily and dirty?

Yes, its not a good choice, as it is unhygenic ( i spelt that wrong forsure).

 

[powersam]

no washing your hair only once a week would not affect your hairloss nor would it be unhygenic. overwashing is an epidemic which is damaging many peoples skin.

 

[yello911]

I understand what you are saying. In response to washing off all your oils on your scalp, your body reacts by producing more oil.

No it doesn't. Sebaceous glands secrete sebum continuously, without regard to what's sitting on the surface of your skin/scalp.

The old-fashioned idea that oil glands "react" to washing by producing more oil was disproved nearly 50 years ago by Kligman and Shelley, in an elaborate series of experiments. They dubbed it the "feedback theory", and since then there have been additional experiments, all disproving that notion. A lot of lay people continue to believe it, but they aren't familiar with the medical literature disproving it.

Bryan

Interesting. You need to go around and correct other sites on this because they are still saying it does. Can you post this experiment as I would be interested in reading it.

 

[Bryan]

Interesting. You need to go around and correct other sites on this because they are still saying it does.

I've actually done that a couple of times, but they don't really listen. It's surprising how the "feedback theory" seems to be so deeply ingrained into lay people. Almost everyone still believes it to be true, despite the scientific evidence against it.

Can you post this experiment as I would be interested in reading it.

Here's an old post from my friend Kevin Davis from alt.baldspot a few years ago. He gives the relevant citations:

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From: thread ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Too much sebum
Newsgroups: alt.baldspot
Date: 2001-06-03 12:49:48 PST

Here is a study which discusses sebum production and the factors that affect it. I also posted a paragraph from this study which discusses the false notion of a feedback system.

Bottom-line: washing your skin does not affect sebum production one way or the other (although washing will certainly remove sebum from the skin surface).

Kevin Davis

"Sebum secretion and sebaceous lipids." - published in Dermatologic Clinics, Vol. 1, No. 3, July 1983.

Excerpt:

"... These observations gave rise to a long-lived fallacy (1927-1957) that was posthumously christened the "feedback theory" by Kligman and Shelley (23). The idea was that sebaceous glands secrete only when necessary to replenish lipid that has been wiped or washed away. Nothing known about the physiology of sebaceous glands gives any theoretical support to this concept, and it has been thoroughly disproved experimentally (23). Sebum is secreted continuously. The reason that lipid levels eventually cease to increase apparently is that the skin can hold only a certain amount of lipid in its crevices, and the rest tends to flow away from sites of high sebum production (23)."

23) Kligman, A. M., and Shelley, W. B.: "An Investigation of the Biology of the Human Sebaceous Gland". Journal of Investigative Dermatology, 30:99-124, 1958.

 

[yello911]

Thanks for the post Bryan. That is good to know.

Let me ask you this: Years ago, my dermatologist told me to resist and not to over wash my face. He said my skin would actually get oilier and I would get more zits. Do you know if this is bunk too?

 

[Bryan]

Your dermatologist obviously wasn't familiar with the literature on the subject of oil production and skin washing.

As far as acne is concerned...I consider skin washing to be relatively "acne-neutral". In general, I think it neither helps nor hurts. However (and it's a BIG however), if you do it really excessively and use harsh cleansers, I suppose you could irritate your skin which could certainly exacerbate acne. In my opinion, acne sufferers should wash their faces just like everyone else: wash it if they think it NEEDS washing (too dirty, too oily, etc.). Don't go overboard and wash it excessively, because that won't help acne.

Bryan

 

[michael barry]

spironolactone should be good for acne, and I understand its being used topically in some quarters for it. Its a receptor blocker for those who dont know, and lessens the androgenic stimulation of the sebocytes and sebaceous glands in the skin. If one used an anti-microbial (something cheap like azelaic acid) with it, in a month or so, Id bet on their skin being much clearer.

IMO this would be better than going to your Doctor so he could give you a tetracycline prescript, or worse, an accutane prescript which will give you a big hair shed. But there is no money for him in this.


Since topical green tea extract inhibits type ONE alpha five reductase, and DHT is the most active form of tesosterone, I'd bet that this might help acne to an extent after a few weeks of it. However, since plain'ol testosterone jumpstarts those oil glands also........spironolactone would proboably be much better in getting the glands to slow down.

The stagnant oil in the oversecreting glands becomes home to a host of microbials and proboably fungi........an anti-fungal, anti-microbial (emu oil) before you wash might get rid of some of that too.

I had a little acne as a teen, went to the derm. Did several cycles of tetracycline and one of accutane. I used to get folliculitus in my early twenties on my neck. One other thing I found out that can help young guys here..........put some anti-bacterial soap/hydrogen peroxide on your razor and let it sit for a minute or so before you shave. Let the water slowly run from the faucet also to clean your razor WHILE shaving instead of allowing a pool of it in the sink. The sink will have bacteria in it (unless you JUST cleaned it) from stagnant water. Wash your pillows reguarily (and sheets too) because sebum secretions from your body will spoil and get rancid......leading to bacteria getting back on your skin. You dont want that. I have very nice clear skin now.

 

[emery]

i wash my hair once a day

to keep your scalp clean, you dont wash your hair more than once a day. apply some scalp conditioner, such as aloe spray, or folligen?

does washing your hair more often create more oil -> the answer is yes for some people. JUst like people with oily face... the more they wash their face, the more quicker / oily it gets. the fix is to find some special soap to wash their face AND apply special lotions after face wash. now , my oily face is gone.

 

[The Gardener]

My dermatologist told me to wash my face, twice a day, because the sebum is full of bad stuff and is a gathering place for dirt.

He said the only good thing about the facial sebum is that it helps "plump up" the layer of dead skin cells on the face, making it look more smooth, but that this can be replicated by using a moisturizer that is compatible with your face and skin type.