Losing faith in these treatments for hair loss

Diffused_confidence

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Gotta get this off my chest. I've been on Propecia/finasteride for about 5.5 months and I'm pretty sure it's failing me. I keep hearing that it's just a shed but I'm not convinced anymore.

It looks like my hairline has receded more than ever WHILE on treatment. How the f*** is this possible? On one side it's basically from Norwood 2.5 to Norwood 3 now and the other side, formally a Norwood 2 is now 2.5. I can't even style my hair well enough to cover it anymore and when I started treatment I had a poor hairline but something I could live with and tolerate. Now I can't tolerate it and am hoping just to get back to baseline. I keep hearing I have a long way to go but I don't see any new hairs coming out at all and we're at 5.5 months. All I've done is recede more and see more hair thinning.

Now my life is worse than ever. I once again struggle to get out of bed, I wear hats all the time now, and I can't go into the bathroom with lighting. It's so frustrating to throw treatments at a problem and it seems to do jack sh*t but I'm seeing people on r/tressless who are literally Norwood 5 getting some regrowth. I started this sh*t early, why the f*** is this not working? 90% of men stabilize their hair loss on Propecia. It would suck *** if I am part of the 10%.

What's worse is the rise of people getting on treatments stigmatizes balding even more. Now it's categorized as bad hygiene according to women. But if the treatments don't work then wtf do you do? The answer is simple, you live a subhuman existence.

This disease needs more treatments. It's an absolute joke that something that men hated for thousands of years has so few treatment options. And I'm serious about that. Historical writings indicate this was a male problem thousands of years ago and they tried everything to keep their hair.

I've only lost some of my hairline and people are already giving me sh*t about it. A month ago a woman gave me sh*t about my hair and just 2 days ago I was advised by a stranger that I should get my hair fixed. Now I just feel miserable and all I do is post on incel forums like this one.

Motivation in life? Gone. What's the point? I'm a subhuman genetic failure. Why even try to better my situation when it's already over? I'm basically dead.

The people who make me feel the worst are my family members, especially the female ones. I've learned a lot about women just by losing some hair.

1. Women are way way way more shallow than they advertise. They don't give a sh*t about your personality unless you are good looking. That's basically how men are but at least men are honest about it.
2. Women lie all the time. I'm convinced that lying is just female survival instinct because they are so weak physically. They will tell you that height isn't a big deal or hairloss isn't bad when it really is. I read an older post on here about how women are the selectors in natural selection and they only want good genes. Given that baldness has ZERO f*****g EVOLUTIONARY ADVANTAGES why would they ever select a bald person when they look like a damn orc and will only lead to orc sons. I wish women told the truth for once. If 30 years ago they didn't hide their absolute disdain for subhuman genetically inferior bald people then maybe companies would have realized that treatments are needed and they wouldn't sit on their *** once Propecia cane out. At the very least RU58841 would have had a fair attempt to hit fda approval. But no, they dropped it because who cares about how balding men feel? They are subhuman anyway, why are we helping them?

3. I truly believe now that ugly men, if women had their way, would all be sent to the gas chambers. Bald men, short men, ethnic men, ugly men, gassed and sprayed with acid until their ugly appearance is ripped off the bone while the women dance to the sound of their agonizing screams and post it to TikTok. Then have the bones shattered and tossed into a fire pit.

4. Women act like they have things so hard. But the reality is they live life on easy mode. They are literally children. You have women judging men, calling them a manchild, for playing video games or something but these women also don't have their own house or a real job and look for a rich attractive husband to take care of her... anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

So now wtf do I do? I can't shave it because my head shape won't work, I look like a subhuman orc who should be put to death when bald. I can't get a hair transplant as I can't stabilize. It's basically over for me.
 

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3. I truly believe now that ugly men, if women had their way, would all be sent to the gas chambers. Bald men, short men, ethnic men, ugly men, gassed and sprayed with acid until their ugly appearance is ripped off the bone while the women dance to the sound of their agonizing screams and post it to TikTok. Then have the bones shattered and tossed into a fire pit.
wtf
 

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Might as well embrace your baldness and role in life as being a malicious, inhumane symbol of death itself, which the world consider it it's natural enemy
 

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Might as well embrace your baldness and role in life as being a malicious, inhumane symbol of death itself, which the world consider it it's natural enemy
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Caillou

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Also why the f*** do you guys care so much about what women think? f*** women to hell, it's not even the biggest reason why baldness suck


Women can express their sh*t opinions because they're protected by this cucked, wicked system. But it doesn't mean that women's opinions are worth sh*t
 

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Well, in some cases (small percent) finasteride can increase hairloss speed due to AR upregulation instead of slowing it down like in most cases.
I mean, you never know, it's a drug that play with your hormones, maybe your body responded that way.
 

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Did you try duta or Ru OP?
No. I honestly think dutasteride is a lot more dangerous than finasteride. If the FDA approved it then I would consider it but there is a reason why it didn't. RU58841 is also not safe either.

I guess I'm not desperate enough to go this route yet. Honestly I knew I had hair loss about 1 year ago and was worried about finasteride and my depression was so bad that I said f*** it and tried it and didn't get side effects.
 

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No. I honestly think dutasteride is a lot more dangerous than finasteride. If the FDA approved it then I would consider it but there is a reason why it didn't. RU58841 is also not safe either.

I guess I'm not desperate enough to go this route yet. Honestly I knew I had hair loss about 1 year ago and was worried about finasteride and my depression was so bad that I said f*** it and tried it and didn't get side effects.
oral minoxidil
 

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Well, in some cases (small percent) finasteride can increase hairloss speed due to AR upregulation instead of slowing it down like in most cases.
I mean, you never know, it's a drug that play with your hormones, maybe your body responded that way.

Precisely.
 

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TLDR all of it, but in general, finasteride is going to only slow down hair loss at best. Certainly, it is possible that AR upregulation due to antiandrogenic medications like finasteride could make hair worse.

Finasteride is just adding wood to the fire. This is why minoxidil and needling is vital, it helps provide the lighter fluid so that regrowth can happen in the less androgenic environment.

It's also possible that your hair loss is just very aggressive and you need some of the more powerful / adjunct treatments such as dutasteride, OM, RU, etc.
 

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TLDR all of it, but in general, finasteride is going to only slow down hair loss at best. Certainly, it is possible that AR upregulation due to antiandrogenic medications like finasteride could make hair worse.

Finasteride is just adding wood to the fire. This is why minoxidil and needling is vital, it helps provide the lighter fluid so that regrowth can happen in the less androgenic environment.

It's also possible that your hair loss is just very aggressive and you need some of the more powerful / adjunct treatments such as dutasteride, OM, RU, etc.
I started noticing hair loss at 30, could it really be that aggressive? Everyone I see online with aggressive hairloss is 18 -23 years old.
 

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I've been on finasteride for 6 months too and still losing hair, I'm gonna give it at least a year though. People say the earlier you get on it the better the results, that's a load of bs because I had very mild hair loss when I started finasteride.
 

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I started noticing hair loss at 30, could it really be that aggressive? Everyone I see online with aggressive hairloss is 18 -23 years old.
can absolutely be aggressive... friend of mine started loosing at 33 and had to shave at 34... well he didnt want to get on treatments and after two years his hair was gone... (before someone asks, hes got no issues, got the gf after getting bald and had gfs while balding, just started some more or less successful business...)
 

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I've been on finasteride for 6 months too and still losing hair, I'm gonna give it at least a year though. People say the earlier you get on it the better the results, that's a load of bs because I had very mild hair loss when I started finasteride.
You and I are in a similar boat here. I guess I'll wait 1 year too. It infuriates me to see some guys get regrowth in 4 or 5 months and they are like Norwood 6.
 

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can absolutely be aggressive... friend of mine started loosing at 33 and had to shave at 34... well he didnt want to get on treatments and after two years his hair was gone... (before someone asks, hes got no issues, got the gf after getting bald and had gfs while balding, just started some more or less successful business...)
Lol

You have posts where you said if you're visibly balding it's over and women will find you gross
 
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