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Ye I lose around 30-60 hairs in the shower but thats when I obsessively run through my hair with shampoo for minutes multiple times literally searching for hairs on my hand so idk if that counts, is that amount of loss alot?
Low Density Hair On Top, Am I Balding..? (pics Included) Please Help
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On every picture. Your hair is thinning in the entire nw6, if you leave it alone that is what you will end up at unfortunately
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Not sure why you are confused. He is thinning in every nw6 area hence he is thinning in a nw6 pattern. His ultimate destination is a nw6 and he’ll be there in a few years probably. Looks like he’s already lost a ton of hair
Like everyone else said, I would hop on treatment right now if I were you. Don't waste more time. You hair probably looks good to other people right now which is great, you can quietly do your treatment and not have to be selfconscious like most of us, haha. But it looks like thats going to get worse.
By treatment I dont mean finasteride necessarily. I could be male pattern baldness but also a thyroid thing or other stuff. I would go to a doctor to check that, if I were you. If its just garden variety male pattern baldness just get ahead of this thing. I started propecia 3 weeks ago, so far so good and I didnt have any major sides, you can check my thread about it. It doesnt mean I wont have it in the future, but I also took my first propecia pill as if I was taking cyanide and after the 3rd or 4th the act becomes as normal as taking aspirine.
By treatment I dont mean finasteride necessarily. I could be male pattern baldness but also a thyroid thing or other stuff. I would go to a doctor to check that, if I were you. If its just garden variety male pattern baldness just get ahead of this thing. I started propecia 3 weeks ago, so far so good and I didnt have any major sides, you can check my thread about it. It doesnt mean I wont have it in the future, but I also took my first propecia pill as if I was taking cyanide and after the 3rd or 4th the act becomes as normal as taking aspirine.
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OHH GOD! I finally found someone similar to me. The problem is finding the cause for thinning. Only difference is you have no mature hairline & I(21.5 yo) have 45 degree small triangle mature hairline which was there before shredding. And how is your hair density in back side?(just to make sure if its not DUPA) Ofcourse i started seeing all men's hair after i got this problem. and most of normal people with think beautiful hairs have mature hairline. Why you lacking it?? Your hairline is like 8 Yo boy! & Telogen Effluvium don't come that long-7 years! & on bright side, it usually don't push 50+% of hairs to telogen phase.
My views about this condition which its difficult to find problem.
I do believe male pattern baldness always start from receding hairline, also all people here post pics of receding hairline.
But there are many cases where it went to NW6 slowly leaving 5-10% hair all over top.
When i couldn't find pic of diffuse male pattern baldness with NW1 in forums/etc. i searched "hair transplant for diffuse", just to make sure if diffuse male pattern baldness exists, & i found many. Talking about my hairloss, I noticed it suddenly last october ending. started shredding 200 hairs for just 1-2 weeks on october 1st-2nd week(2018). Offcourse i toughth it would be Telogen Effluvium. But when i saw my old pic (2016), i noticed small amount of density loss there. Then i read all ncbi reports and all books, forums aobut Androgenetic Alopecia like hell.
Then i noticed miniaturized hairs!!! 20-25 out of 100 fallen hairs while massaging was miniaturized of different density!! WHAT ABOUT YOU?
then, i grew my hairs for next 3 months till 4-5 inch and noticed that all miniaturized hairs from top of hair to root have same diameter! all 20-35 hairs checked daily during massage! started taking all supplements needed. It was feb 15 when i realized that raw egg white contain avadin which cause biotin deficiency! I was drinking 2 raw eggs after workout daily from 6+ months. then i started hoping for another 3 months from feb 15 2019 not touching egg & continuing biotin. But biotin deficiency's first symptom is rashes on face. but i got rashes on thigh below balls(jock itch) of 2-3 inch both sides for 1st time in life.
3 months before shredding hairs, i started handstand for first time in life. i not only experienced headblast like feeling which is normal. but also 'someone is pulling my hairs hard & its paining like hell in all hair roots on top' like feeling for 30 seconds after handstand! its been 5 months stopped handstand btw.
It's not hard for me to accept as male pattern baldness and start taking finasteride. atleast i can start from 0.25mg. but what STOPPING ME TAKING FINASTERIDE is, I have beard only on chin & new terminal hairs appearing on cheeks slowing one by one! So, now only hope is to wait till few months with supplements and healthy lifestyle.
But i couldn't control and went to skin doctor last week. one said i have Androgenetic Alopecia which i need to accept, i asking how can you say its Androgenetic Alopecia, she said for women it start from Telogen Effluvium, for men it start from Androgenetic Alopecia!!! offcource i went to another after hearing that. He said Androgenetic Alopecia has started, then i showed my hairline, crown, same density all over. Then, he tested for ferritin, thyroid, B12. all was normal except i had 54% lympositis. which should be below 45% and 50+% means my body is defending infections!!! but i have no infections, fever/etc meaning its autoimmune disorder. next day i showed it to doctor and asked about any autoimmune disorder, he said me not to search any such things on internet and to stop worry till next month and visit him back.
I had this problem from 12 months that my both foot was felling burning & numbness sensation on skin and veins! especially when i sit on floor for few seconds or apply weight on legs while sitting. but when i started taking 50mg iron per day from last week, it reduced a lot. May be iron deficiency causing hair loss!!? but my hemoglobin, rbc was at max even tough my ferritin levels are at low end (35) that why i started taking iron 50mb, 30 is min, which is good & low ferritin with above normal RBC & hemoglobin level help age slow!
I was also taking heavy stress and worries that atleast once every 2 month, i use to act like mental patient and shout loud, breaking window glasses, phones/etc on angry, beating my head with my palm bone (but never pulled my hair)
I have 10-20% curly hair from childhood and couldn't comb easily or style easily, so i use to comb it very aggressively that it use to sound like pulling off hairs. I was treating hair like treating a b**ch only till last 6 month when i found Hair is important than heart and brain!
I'm applying ketokonazone 2% shampoo from 6 months once or twice a week just to stay away from any infections/dandruff/etc. But not noticed any good things.
Headstand damaged my follicles?? doctor had to time to hear any questions like this. I need to find some doctors who have time.
biotin/etc deficiency? ok, lets wait till may 15th.
due to severe stress? ok, lets be stress, worry angry free till may 15th.
combing agressively for years means taction alopecia damaged hair follicles!!?
also was fapping till dec like 2-3 times a day, atleast 1 time. but from jan 1st, i controled a lot, my plan was to control till 3 month, but was again fapping 1 or 2 times per week which is notmal. again from yesterday, my plan is to control till 100 days. this time full control.
I will take PRP treatment and dermaroller in same clinic. also dermaroller for face so that beard may grow fast and I can start finasteride after 6months. I will wait for another 4-5 months, if hair density is same, my wait will continue, if i found small decrease, i will start 25mg finasteride for next 6 months without minoxidil. If applied minoxidil, i may not able to find if my hair growth is due to blocking dht or applying minoxidil.
what things above will match you?? its been more than 12 months for you(7 years). now start taking pics everyweek with same light, same watery/oily, same hair length & combing direction. if you found any difference in next couple of months, start taking 25mg finasteride for 6 months if you have full beard now (without minoxidil), dont worry, less than 1% people suffer side effects related to sex. and recently i came accross a report and started believe that its not due to finasteride, but normally people suffer from it if they have diabetes/etc. & yes another thing i found from a study among few 10s of people is 5mg daily blocks xx% of dht, mark it as 100% efficiency, then 1mg per day will be 92% efficiency, and 0.25mg will be 80+% efficiency, its not even a little far from each other. But sides compare to 5mg, 1mg and 0.25mg are far away from each other.
what new thing i suspect in you case is, normal person who reach puberty @ 10 yo, he develop mature hairline slowly till next 6-10 years after which it stops for decades, meaning that hairs in mature hairline is very very sensitive to DHT, I also seen many people who take durasteride for many months and also receed back mature hairline!!! but in your case, mature hairline is absent, may be for you DHT affects differently??? Its just a thinking, may be not true. BUT START FINASTERIDE ONLY IF YOU NOTICE FURTHER HAIRLESS IN NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, ONLY 25MG, ONLY IF YOU HAVE BEARD, AND WITHOUT MINOXIDIL.
FINALLY, you will not find any answers for your conditions here, blood reports may not work for you. other than hairloss, what problems you facing and from when? only thing that help you is, high qualified doctor and biopsy. You have miniaturized hairs?
what if your hairs not grow back? Topik if best suitable for diffuse thinners. and also Lambo, ferrari are best suitable for diffuse thinners!!! if you know what i mean. btw, im talking like this answering the question "what if hairs never grew back after trying everything including biopsy"
My views about this condition which its difficult to find problem.
I do believe male pattern baldness always start from receding hairline, also all people here post pics of receding hairline.
But there are many cases where it went to NW6 slowly leaving 5-10% hair all over top.
When i couldn't find pic of diffuse male pattern baldness with NW1 in forums/etc. i searched "hair transplant for diffuse", just to make sure if diffuse male pattern baldness exists, & i found many. Talking about my hairloss, I noticed it suddenly last october ending. started shredding 200 hairs for just 1-2 weeks on october 1st-2nd week(2018). Offcourse i toughth it would be Telogen Effluvium. But when i saw my old pic (2016), i noticed small amount of density loss there. Then i read all ncbi reports and all books, forums aobut Androgenetic Alopecia like hell.
Then i noticed miniaturized hairs!!! 20-25 out of 100 fallen hairs while massaging was miniaturized of different density!! WHAT ABOUT YOU?
then, i grew my hairs for next 3 months till 4-5 inch and noticed that all miniaturized hairs from top of hair to root have same diameter! all 20-35 hairs checked daily during massage! started taking all supplements needed. It was feb 15 when i realized that raw egg white contain avadin which cause biotin deficiency! I was drinking 2 raw eggs after workout daily from 6+ months. then i started hoping for another 3 months from feb 15 2019 not touching egg & continuing biotin. But biotin deficiency's first symptom is rashes on face. but i got rashes on thigh below balls(jock itch) of 2-3 inch both sides for 1st time in life.
3 months before shredding hairs, i started handstand for first time in life. i not only experienced headblast like feeling which is normal. but also 'someone is pulling my hairs hard & its paining like hell in all hair roots on top' like feeling for 30 seconds after handstand! its been 5 months stopped handstand btw.
It's not hard for me to accept as male pattern baldness and start taking finasteride. atleast i can start from 0.25mg. but what STOPPING ME TAKING FINASTERIDE is, I have beard only on chin & new terminal hairs appearing on cheeks slowing one by one! So, now only hope is to wait till few months with supplements and healthy lifestyle.
But i couldn't control and went to skin doctor last week. one said i have Androgenetic Alopecia which i need to accept, i asking how can you say its Androgenetic Alopecia, she said for women it start from Telogen Effluvium, for men it start from Androgenetic Alopecia!!! offcource i went to another after hearing that. He said Androgenetic Alopecia has started, then i showed my hairline, crown, same density all over. Then, he tested for ferritin, thyroid, B12. all was normal except i had 54% lympositis. which should be below 45% and 50+% means my body is defending infections!!! but i have no infections, fever/etc meaning its autoimmune disorder. next day i showed it to doctor and asked about any autoimmune disorder, he said me not to search any such things on internet and to stop worry till next month and visit him back.
I had this problem from 12 months that my both foot was felling burning & numbness sensation on skin and veins! especially when i sit on floor for few seconds or apply weight on legs while sitting. but when i started taking 50mg iron per day from last week, it reduced a lot. May be iron deficiency causing hair loss!!? but my hemoglobin, rbc was at max even tough my ferritin levels are at low end (35) that why i started taking iron 50mb, 30 is min, which is good & low ferritin with above normal RBC & hemoglobin level help age slow!
I was also taking heavy stress and worries that atleast once every 2 month, i use to act like mental patient and shout loud, breaking window glasses, phones/etc on angry, beating my head with my palm bone (but never pulled my hair)
I have 10-20% curly hair from childhood and couldn't comb easily or style easily, so i use to comb it very aggressively that it use to sound like pulling off hairs. I was treating hair like treating a b**ch only till last 6 month when i found Hair is important than heart and brain!
I'm applying ketokonazone 2% shampoo from 6 months once or twice a week just to stay away from any infections/dandruff/etc. But not noticed any good things.
Headstand damaged my follicles?? doctor had to time to hear any questions like this. I need to find some doctors who have time.
biotin/etc deficiency? ok, lets wait till may 15th.
due to severe stress? ok, lets be stress, worry angry free till may 15th.
combing agressively for years means taction alopecia damaged hair follicles!!?
also was fapping till dec like 2-3 times a day, atleast 1 time. but from jan 1st, i controled a lot, my plan was to control till 3 month, but was again fapping 1 or 2 times per week which is notmal. again from yesterday, my plan is to control till 100 days. this time full control.
I will take PRP treatment and dermaroller in same clinic. also dermaroller for face so that beard may grow fast and I can start finasteride after 6months. I will wait for another 4-5 months, if hair density is same, my wait will continue, if i found small decrease, i will start 25mg finasteride for next 6 months without minoxidil. If applied minoxidil, i may not able to find if my hair growth is due to blocking dht or applying minoxidil.
what things above will match you?? its been more than 12 months for you(7 years). now start taking pics everyweek with same light, same watery/oily, same hair length & combing direction. if you found any difference in next couple of months, start taking 25mg finasteride for 6 months if you have full beard now (without minoxidil), dont worry, less than 1% people suffer side effects related to sex. and recently i came accross a report and started believe that its not due to finasteride, but normally people suffer from it if they have diabetes/etc. & yes another thing i found from a study among few 10s of people is 5mg daily blocks xx% of dht, mark it as 100% efficiency, then 1mg per day will be 92% efficiency, and 0.25mg will be 80+% efficiency, its not even a little far from each other. But sides compare to 5mg, 1mg and 0.25mg are far away from each other.
what new thing i suspect in you case is, normal person who reach puberty @ 10 yo, he develop mature hairline slowly till next 6-10 years after which it stops for decades, meaning that hairs in mature hairline is very very sensitive to DHT, I also seen many people who take durasteride for many months and also receed back mature hairline!!! but in your case, mature hairline is absent, may be for you DHT affects differently??? Its just a thinking, may be not true. BUT START FINASTERIDE ONLY IF YOU NOTICE FURTHER HAIRLESS IN NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, ONLY 25MG, ONLY IF YOU HAVE BEARD, AND WITHOUT MINOXIDIL.
FINALLY, you will not find any answers for your conditions here, blood reports may not work for you. other than hairloss, what problems you facing and from when? only thing that help you is, high qualified doctor and biopsy. You have miniaturized hairs?
what if your hairs not grow back? Topik if best suitable for diffuse thinners. and also Lambo, ferrari are best suitable for diffuse thinners!!! if you know what i mean. btw, im talking like this answering the question "what if hairs never grew back after trying everything including biopsy"
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