Made up Endorsement on Revivogen's Site?

[Fallout Boy]

Im about to restart treatment for my hairloss so I have been doing some research on different products. The other day while looking into Revivogen I came across this.

This is straight from Revivogen's website and is claimed to be a quote from Thebaldtruth.com endorsing Revivogen.

"As many of you know, the hair-loss industry is littered with snake oils claiming not only to prevent further hair loss, but to regrow hair as well. The majority of these non-FDA approved products are completely unsubstantiated as far as their claims are concerned.

The Revivogen hair loss treatment system is the only non-FDA approved treatment marketed for hair loss that is approved by The Bald Truth. The ingredients in Revivogen have been clinically proven to block both type I and type II 5-alpha-reductase, which is known by the mainstream medical community to cause the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone. DHT is currently thought to be the main culprit in male pattern baldness. We at The Bald Truth believe that Revivogen has the potential to meet its claims. Revivogen can be used either as a standalone treatment or as an adjunct to the FDA-approved products recommended by The Bald Truth."



Meanwhile over at Thebaldtruth.com I found this statement in their 'Q and A' section.



The following quote from The Bald Truth was in response to this question:

"Do You Recommend Revivogen?"

"As far as Revivogen is concerned, at this time we do NOT recommend any Non-FDA approved product for the prevention and treatment of hair loss. Many years ago I believed that “naturalâ€￾ DHT inhibitors might actually have an effect, but after years of anecdotal evidence to the contrary I can no longer recommend these products. I am surprised that it says that they are recommended on their website. Thanks for the heads up!

Hope this helps.

Spencer Kobren
Host of The Bald Truth Radio Show
Founder, American Hair Loss Association"


I just think it's pretty shady of Revivogen to falsely claim that The Bald Truth is endorsing their product when clearly theyre not.

Any thoughts?

 

[H/B]

um, Revivogen sucks. :whistle:

 

[DoctorHouse]

I remember when I started using Revivogen maybe 5 or 6 years ago, it was because Spencer endorsed it. So at one time he did endorse it. However, currently he does not endorse it. So they just never updated his new view on Revivogen. So it is not a false claim but an old claim that has been updated by Spencer but not the Revivogen website.

 

[Administrator]

The question is why did he change his endorsement. Revivogen's ingredients didn't change.

Keep in mind that some companies out there have longstanding reputations for endorsing things when it is financially beneficial to them, and not endorsing things when that affiliation ends.

I seem to remember Spencer's radio show airing commercials for Revivogen several years ago. Which means he was getting paid to endorse it. Those commercials have now ended.

Unfortunately the ebb and flow is proof of what motivates some companies. Revivogen didn't go from promotable to unpromotable in the time period between those two statements above. Something else changed.

Everything we have promoted has remained unchanged for nearly 9 years. Mainly because our motivation is science, and not how much we get paid to like something.

So no, the endorsement on Revivogen's site isn't made up.

Admin

 

[Petchsky]

And Spencer Kobren is a business man first! Now he's saying anything that's not FDA approved is garbage, :hmmm:

 

[DoctorHouse]

Spencer Kobren endorsements hold alot more water than say someone like me( although I think with the popularity of the show House my opinion might hold some water if Dr House was really a non fictitious character :whistle: ). The reason for his success is he has written a bestseller book about his journey to treat hair loss. Anyone with the proper experience and expertise on here can do the same. For instance, I am sure Bryan could become just as famous since his views seem to be highly respected on MOST forums. I know a few forums did not care for his views. Spencer just got lucky and became famous for doing it. He has a talent for what he does. So his word is golden to his fans. Its all about who you can trust and have faith in before you will buy a product that is endorsed by a so called expert. If I come on here and endorse a product, most of you will not run out an buy it. However, I would have no business interest in endorsing a product because I would not endorse anything unless I know it works. And it would have to work for everyone. We all know that is impossible. I am just one of those honest people that could not accept money for something I know will not work for everyone. Spencer used his celebrity status to endorse it even if he felt it did nothing for him because as Petchesky said he is definitely a business man and needs to make a living. Revivogen paid him for his endorsement and now they don't. So now he changed his tune all of sudden just because of anecdotal evidence from other users. I thought it was working for him if he was endorsing it. For that sudden 180 turn around, in my opinion, his expertise does not hold much water for me anymore. I would value Bryan's views over his. I still use Revivogen and I think it does help me. However, as we all know what works for me, may not work for YOU. Its all about trial and error. So I think the only person that can know just how great a treatment will be is when they have tried it first hand. And not based upon a celebrity endorsement who got paid to say it works. I am sure this thread is going to be moved into the OFF TOPIC Area as it probably is now. :innocent:

 

[Bryan]

For instance, I am sure Bryan could become just as famous since his views seem to be highly respected on MOST forums. I know a few forums did not care for his views.

Are you talking about Regrowth?

 

[DoctorHouse]

:agree:

 

[Petchsky]

For instance, I am sure Bryan could become just as famous since his views seem to be highly respected on MOST forums. I know a few forums did not care for his views.

Are you talking about Regrowth?

What's the story there then Bryan?

Is it because they have a high number of natural only proponents?

 

[Administrator]

Spencer Kobren endorsements hold alot more water than say someone like me

Oddly enough, I disagree, for the reasons you already explained. Anyone can pay to be on the radio like Spencer did. He is not a doctor, nor a dermatologist. He has no more qualifications than anyone else with the ability to read the information available out there, like you pointed out. The information is available to everyone. One might say I am more qualified simply because I run this site, but the same rule applies to me. But Bryan, who has never had a radio show, or run any site, knows about a thousand times more than Spencer or I know about hair loss.

So the next question is, how trustworthy is the person? If a person has a reputation for changing their endorsements based on when it is financially beneficial to them, rather than based on an ethical adherence to facts, data, and wanting to help people ... then that persons endorsement actually becomes useless.

His celebrity ... He has a talent for what he does. So his word is golden to his fans.

Are we talking about Johnny Carson or a guy with a 60 minute AM radio show from 6 years ago, where they had to pay money just to get on the air?

 

[Bryan]

Are you talking about Regrowth?

What's the story there then Bryan?

Is it because they have a high number of natural only proponents?

I'm not entirely sure what the problem really was, but I do feel that I was treated very shabbily by OMG (Over Mucho Grande, who is one of the moderators), and certain other elements on that site. When I got suspended at one point, I decided there was no real point in further reading or attempting to contribute to the site.