not washing your hair
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WorldofWarcraft
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Oh god that is nasty. lol ! WTF !
Unfortunately it does not work like that.
At one stage I was washing my hair once per fortnight, or if I was lucky per week.
However it is important to note that by deffinition of WASH I actually mean using a shampoo based product to cleanse.
I always used plain water to rinse on the off days.
Aside from using shampoo products which can harm your hair the only other elements that may play a role is the fluoride and chlorine found in your tap water which may damage your hair.
At one stage I was washing my hair once per fortnight, or if I was lucky per week.
However it is important to note that by deffinition of WASH I actually mean using a shampoo based product to cleanse.
I always used plain water to rinse on the off days.
Aside from using shampoo products which can harm your hair the only other elements that may play a role is the fluoride and chlorine found in your tap water which may damage your hair.
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s.a.f said:
Proof? male pattern baldness is not only caused by hormonally alterned gene regulation and downstream effects. It's also caused by oxidative stress, which is definitely something that our shampoos and the chemicals in our water will cause.
Shampoos and fluoride in the water may not necessarily hurt, but they certainly do not help.
Just read up on what fluoride does to the human body sometime. You might be surprised that it's even in our drinking water.
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docj077 said:
what does it do? i took flouride tablets as a kid and i never had a cavity, even when i was lax about brushing the teeth. we didn't hav flouride in our water and most other kids i knew weren't on the tablets and had plenty. not a coincidence in my opinion./
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docj077 said:
My g/f has a perfect hairline and she washes her hair, dyes her hair, and uses fluoride daily.
Doctor is correct.
Some people do not understand that everyone is not created equally, obviously.
Chlorine and Fluoride amongst other elements found in water can provoke an already inflamed scalp. Both substances can also cause oxidative stress under certain conditions and does so in everyone of us with or without male pattern baldness to a degree, some low and some higher than others..
A filter on your shower head would be the best bet but not very many of us do it nor give it a second thought.
Because it's too easy to compare someone balding vs someone with a luscious main whom both use water daily, it is easy to justify why public works water is not harming us in comparison to others.
This is the same debate held with EMF radiation and diet. We draw remote comparisons with others in the hope that it would squash plausibility when sadly it does not.
Some people do not understand that everyone is not created equally, obviously.
Chlorine and Fluoride amongst other elements found in water can provoke an already inflamed scalp. Both substances can also cause oxidative stress under certain conditions and does so in everyone of us with or without male pattern baldness to a degree, some low and some higher than others..
A filter on your shower head would be the best bet but not very many of us do it nor give it a second thought.
Because it's too easy to compare someone balding vs someone with a luscious main whom both use water daily, it is easy to justify why public works water is not harming us in comparison to others.
This is the same debate held with EMF radiation and diet. We draw remote comparisons with others in the hope that it would squash plausibility when sadly it does not.
WorldofWarcraft
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So said:
Using this logic, we can say almost everything causes male pattern baldness. Tunafish has mercury, so eating a tunafish sandwhich accelerates male pattern baldness. Air pollution is bad, so living in LA casues baldness. Using floride for your teeth accelerates male pattern baldness. Being on the computer causes hairloss. Its all silly speculation and does not give anyone further insight on how to fight male pattern baldness.
I mean, we gotta draw the line in the sand somewhere. Maybe drinking beer on thursdays alters your hormones and makes 1 extra hair fall off your head a year.
Far Too Young
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Beer suppresses testosterone and DHT levels.
So drink up!
So drink up!
BALD IS BEAUTIFUL
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drink beer f*** fear.Far Too Young said:
wookster
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Just speculating here 
http://www.shikai.com/publications/sodi ... ulfate.htm
Hydrogenated SLS = transfats for the scalp - clogging circulation to the hair follicles? :freaked:
http://www.shikai.com/publications/sodi ... ulfate.htm
Hydrogenated SLS = transfats for the scalp - clogging circulation to the hair follicles? :freaked:
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docj077 said:
You keep putting the burden of proof on me to prove that all these extrenal factors do not accelerate male pattern baldness.
This is backwards.
It should be up to you to at least show us WHY you think the way you do. Until you do, your theory is as about as relavent as those who think masterbation accelerates male pattern baldness.
If you do have proof. Please, as a fellow person with male pattern baldness, share it with me so I can save the hair I have left.
You are aware of what oxidative stress is though aren't you?
The principle to be learned is that such environmental stressors can exacerbate hair loss by way of oxidative cellular stress and damage or for a simpler explanation, premature aging/death of certain cells.
There is no question that modern life is a precursor to someones success or failure in treating hair loss.
There are a myriad of "things", so to speak, in which effect us on a daily basis that we do not give a second thought.
Personally I suggest otherwise, that whilst to you it may be silly speculation, it does give people an insight on how else to fight hair loss in conjunction with existing methodologies and practices.
The principle to be learned is that such environmental stressors can exacerbate hair loss by way of oxidative cellular stress and damage or for a simpler explanation, premature aging/death of certain cells.
There is no question that modern life is a precursor to someones success or failure in treating hair loss.
There are a myriad of "things", so to speak, in which effect us on a daily basis that we do not give a second thought.
Personally I suggest otherwise, that whilst to you it may be silly speculation, it does give people an insight on how else to fight hair loss in conjunction with existing methodologies and practices.
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So to recap here, you are saying we need a filter in our shower head and a certain type of shampoo? What types of each?
Not for nothing, but my own hair thinning started about 1.3 yrs ago. I've been living in this new house for about 3 yrs and I actually started using this huge neutrogena shampoo and conditioner from Sams club right before my whole "thinning" process ever began. It wasn't until much time later that I thought maybe the shampoo had some impact but never gave it a second thought until now.
Anyways, that huge bottle is just about finishd now which brings me back to the question about which shampoo/conditioner to use for my type of hair in this unanswered thread I started: http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?t=33011
Not for nothing, but my own hair thinning started about 1.3 yrs ago. I've been living in this new house for about 3 yrs and I actually started using this huge neutrogena shampoo and conditioner from Sams club right before my whole "thinning" process ever began. It wasn't until much time later that I thought maybe the shampoo had some impact but never gave it a second thought until now.
Anyways, that huge bottle is just about finishd now which brings me back to the question about which shampoo/conditioner to use for my type of hair in this unanswered thread I started: http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?t=33011
I don't use a shower filter, however I have contemplated it for very good reasons.
Water is something we use in abundance, we not only drink it, we wash out clothes in it, our dishes and ultimately ourselves.
There are impurities in public works tap water and for the most part we have little or no concern about it and seldom do we give it a second thought.
Who in their right mind would think to draw a relationship between our water and what ails us? Because we all use it, there is no way it could possibly hurt us? Ha, ha, harrrr... BS! Of course it can.
In fact water may be a contributing factor to many skin disorders, rashes, eczema, etc. For us folk who suffer from male pattern baldness, water may be a contributing cause or an aggravating factor.
Whilst this is speculative, it is highly plausible. Irrespective of which side of the fence you sit, water and it's containing elements such as fluoride, chlorine and even algae can under circumstances cause harm overtime represented by inflammation (skin disorders) or in our case increase hair loss by the cause of none other than oxidative stress, etc, etc, etc.
People are complacent, lazy and take for granted the power of knowledge and are quick to discredit such notions as the above for it is too difficult or uncomfortable to change what is and what always will be. This is typical of the human race today. Sad, but true.
By the way I use Nizoral. It leaves my scalp feeling good compared to H&S which sometimes leaves some aggravation by way of itching.
Water is something we use in abundance, we not only drink it, we wash out clothes in it, our dishes and ultimately ourselves.
There are impurities in public works tap water and for the most part we have little or no concern about it and seldom do we give it a second thought.
Who in their right mind would think to draw a relationship between our water and what ails us? Because we all use it, there is no way it could possibly hurt us? Ha, ha, harrrr... BS! Of course it can.
In fact water may be a contributing factor to many skin disorders, rashes, eczema, etc. For us folk who suffer from male pattern baldness, water may be a contributing cause or an aggravating factor.
Whilst this is speculative, it is highly plausible. Irrespective of which side of the fence you sit, water and it's containing elements such as fluoride, chlorine and even algae can under circumstances cause harm overtime represented by inflammation (skin disorders) or in our case increase hair loss by the cause of none other than oxidative stress, etc, etc, etc.
People are complacent, lazy and take for granted the power of knowledge and are quick to discredit such notions as the above for it is too difficult or uncomfortable to change what is and what always will be. This is typical of the human race today. Sad, but true.
By the way I use Nizoral. It leaves my scalp feeling good compared to H&S which sometimes leaves some aggravation by way of itching.