Premature Androgenic Alopecia And Insulin Resistance. Male Equivalent Of Polycystic Ovary Syndrome?

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16552990

Premature androgenic alopecia and insulin resistance. Male equivalent of polycystic ovary syndrome?


Abstract
BACKGROUND:
Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), the most frequent endocrinopathy in women with estimated prevalence of 5-10 %, is characterised by a hormonal and metabolic imbalance of polygene autosomal trait. The complexity of symptoms and genetic base started up the hypothesis on the existence of male equivalent of PCOS. Precocious loss of hair before 30 years of age was suggested as one of the male symptoms of this syndrome.

OBJECTIVES:
The aim was to confirm the association of lower levels of follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) and sexual hormone binding globulin (SHBG) or higher free androgen index (FAI) in premature balding men with a reduced insulin sensitivity.

PATIENTS/METHODS:
The study included 30 men with premature hair loss (defined as grade 3 vertex or more on the alopecia classification scale by Hamilton with Norwood modification) starting before 30 years of age. The hormonal values of the investigated group were compared with those regarded as normal reference values obtained in a group of 256 males in the age of 20-40 years during the Czech population study of iodine deficiency. In all men with premature baldness besides hormonal level determinations insulin tolerance test was carried out.

RESULTS:
The observed group was divided into two subgroups. The first one showed similar hormonal changes as women with PCOS, namely subnormal SHBG, FSH or increased FAI. The other had either no anomalies in steroid spectrum or only lower SHBG. The groups did not differ either in BMI or in age. The group with hormonal profile resembling that of women with PCOS, showed significantly higher insulin resistance than the group without these changes.

CONCLUSIONS:
The findings are consistent with the hypothesis that at least a part of the men with premature androgenic alopecia could be considered as a male equivalent of the polycystic ovary syndrome of the women. These premature balding men represent a risk group for the development of impaired glucose tolerance or diabetes mellitus type 2.
 

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In a separate paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3877475/

If I were to hazard a guess:

More sugar => more insulin (definitely true) => lower SHBG (definitely true) => Higher FAI (plausibly true) => more production of androgen receptors (conjecture).

They found an average of SHBG of ~10 for the balding men, and ~33 for the control group. P-value of 0.007, so that's very convincing. There's no obvious mechanism for lower SHBG causing baldness, hence my speculation in the part above labelled "conjecture".

Insulin is ~4.50 for the balding men, compared to ~3.40 for the control group. I'm getting my insulin tested this week.

Incidentally my SHBG has been raised from 20 to 24 in the past year. I'm getting it tested again this week.

I think my conjecture of lower SHBG stimulating androgen receptor production is reasonable. @Armando Jose what do you think?

This would also explain the anecdotal reports of intermittent fasting helping the hairline.
 

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In a separate paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3877475/

If I were to hazard a guess:

More sugar => more insulin (definitely true) => lower SHBG (definitely true) => Higher FAI (plausibly true) => more production of androgen receptors (conjecture).

They found an average of SHBG of ~10 for the balding men, and ~33 for the control group. P-value of 0.007, so that's very convincing. There's no obvious mechanism for lower SHBG causing baldness, hence my speculation in the part above labelled "conjecture".

Insulin is ~4.50 for the balding men, compared to ~3.40 for the control group. I'm getting my insulin tested this week.

Incidentally my SHBG has been raised from 20 to 24 in the past year. I'm getting it tested again this week.

I think my conjecture of lower SHBG stimulating androgen receptor production is reasonable. @Armando Jose what do you think?

This would also explain the anecdotal reports of intermittent fasting helping the hairline.

Hi David,
I am with you that problems with insulin can affect hair growth, but always in a diffuse pattern, not as we seen in common alopecia, altough I can admit that in our case, these insulin's problems can agravate it.
 

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Hi David,
I am with you that problems with insulin can affect hair growth, but always in a diffuse pattern, not as we seen in common alopecia, altough I can admit that in our case, these insulin's problems can agravate it.

Why do you believe that insulin only contributes the diffuse component?
 

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Your conjecture is: More sugar=> more insulin=> lower SHBG=>Higher Free Androgen Index=> More production of androgen receptors.

If it is correct, the impact on hair follicles and androgens arise from sugar, insulin, SHBG, etc., and these biological signals arrive from blood flow. All hair follicles are connected in the same form to circulatory system. There are not differences among hair follicles in this issue and then they would affect at all hairs in the same way, in a diffuse manner, not only at certain follicles as seen in common baldness.

This thinking could be the same if we think about stress or diet affecting scalp hairs.
 

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Your conjecture is: More sugar=> more insulin=> lower SHBG=>Higher Free Androgen Index=> More production of androgen receptors.

If it is correct, the impact on hair follicles and androgens arise from sugar, insulin, SHBG, etc., and these biological signals arrive from blood flow. All hair follicles are connected in the same form to circulatory system. There are not differences among hair follicles in this issue and then they would affect at all hairs in the same way, in a diffuse manner, not only at certain follicles as seen in common baldness.

This thinking could be the same if we think about stress or diet affecting scalp hairs.

This would be an amplifier though.

We all have androgen receptors, but an increase in androgen receptors can only take place where androgen receptors are already present.

It's a good point though that it seems to increase some androgen receptors and not others.

What do you think causes this correlation?
 

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But but but...diet and exercise have NOTHING to do with hair loss.

Seriously though, it's been obvious for a long time that insulin resistance is bad for hair.
 

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David, I'll save you some time here.

Basically, this won't lead you anywhere.

I've been here for 7 years, and I've seen several mad scientists posting these studies and it never helped anyone.

Here for example: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...g-our-shbg-sexhormone-binding-globulin.46147/

Also, don't listen to Armando, he's a nutcase who's been here since the dawn of time, and he admitted not even suffering from much hair loss. He's like NW2 right now.

Baldness is 100% genetic, end of the story. I barely eat any sugar, my blood sugar has always been optimal when tested. Yet I went from NW1 to NW5 from age 16 to age 22.

All nonsense.

Well, if it's not a factor in your case, I guess that proves it could never be a factor. Why do researchers and pharmaceutical companies waste so much money running trials when they could just test you and find out how things work for everyone on the planet. Tell me, were born a perfect representative model for every human being on the planet, or did aliens modify your physiology to make you some sort of quantum human being existing in all states of human diversity at once?

Didn't you say minoxidil doesn't work for you? I'm glad they didn't test it only on you, because it works wonders for me.
 

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I used to fast. Didn't stop me from getting male pattern baldness at 19.

Also, ALL Androgenetic Alopecia is premature. Always. The very fact that there are people who live as NW1 until 80 years of age, means that there is never a "right" time to start balding. Without the faulty genes it would simply never happen, no matter how old.

male pattern baldness should not be normalized.
 

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Well, if it's not a factor in your case, I guess that proves it could never be a factor. Why do researchers and pharmaceutical companies waste so much money running trials when they could just test you and find out how things work for everyone on the planet. Tell me, were born a perfect representative model for every human being on the planet, or did aliens modify your physiology to make you some sort of quantum human being existing in all states of human diversity at once?

Didn't you say minoxidil doesn't work for you? I'm glad they didn't test it only on you, because it works wonders for me.

It's useless to talk to Fred about anything science related.

Reminds me of when I used to discuss global warming and the theory of evolution with politically conservative people.

Waste of time.
 

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Interesting post. 2.5 years ago when my balding went mach 10 put of nowhere, i developed food sensitivities with sugar being one that would make my ears, face and scalp heat up and itch. Anytime i searched my symptoms id get brought to womens forums on pcos.

Hard to treat though and i was already using finasteride and minoxidil for years before that issue started with me. Now im on dutasteride, tried multiple other treatments, all shampoos, anti biotics, sulfa, etc.. and nothing is ridding my issue.
 

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This would be an amplifier though.

We all have androgen receptors, but an increase in androgen receptors can only take place where androgen receptors are already present.

It's a good point though that it seems to increase some androgen receptors and not others.

What do you think causes this correlation?


This is a good question and I have not idea why it seems to increase some androgens receptors and not others.
 
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