Propecia Destroys Hairlines?? Wtf

[prince40]

I read on a different forum couple guys saying propecia destroys hairlines while saving vertex hair? now thats a really screwed up side, is this really true cos if so i aint havin it...can others on here confirm if propecia screws ur hairline??

 

[Hans Gruber]

didnt eat mine

 

[prince40]

didnt eat mine

good to know, did u shed initially taking propecia though at the hairline...

 

[Cassin]

I got it for my hair line. Worked wonders

 

[Follically Challenged]

it worked on my hairline

 

[ps1freak]

it worked for my hairline as well

that's only because it thickened hair EVERYWHERE

foam was what did wonders for my hairline~

 

[metalheaddude]

Most people think only DHT destroys hair but the follicles are sensetive to testosterone as well (see Michael Barry's posts).
Its interesting to note the first thing that goes on most guys is the hairline mostly the juvenille hairline which is often made up of small vellus like hairs. This is because they are sensetive to testosterone more so than DHT.

And we all know finasteride lowers DHT and raises testosterone. So there could be a validity in the OP's concerns.

However my own opinion is that it will rarely regrow the hairline (at least not from a NW2 state) but it can certainly help maintain.

 

[prince40]

thanks for the encouraging replies guys

 

[Bryan]

This is because they are sensetive to testosterone more so than DHT.

I very SERIOUSLY doubt that old chestnut.

 

[metalheaddude]

This is because they are sensetive to testosterone more so than DHT.

I very SERIOUSLY doubt that old chestnut.

Well im just trying to understand why some men (not all) continue to lose their hairlines, even though their midscalp and crown almost completely fill in while on propecia.

We know finasteride increases testosterone, so we can't rule out this possibility. It needs to be researched further.

 

[Bryan]

Well im just trying to understand why some men (not all) continue to lose their hairlines, even though their midscalp and crown almost completely fill in while on propecia.

We all know that the hairline is the area most sensitive to androgens, not to mention that strange, unknown inhibitory effect that Dr. Proctor talks about ("hair growth inhibition in a gradient centered around the eyes")

We know finasteride increases testosterone, so we can't rule out this possibility. It needs to be researched further.

I think the minor increase in testosterone from finasteride is generally peanuts. I really think any worsening in the hairline while you're taking finasteride is just a continuation of the fundamental balding process that happens not BECAUSE of the finasteride, but IN SPITE of it. A sharp decline in DHT is more significant than a slight increase in testosterone.

 

[PersonGuy]

I very SERIOUSLY doubt that old chestnut.

Greatest line I've ever heard on this forum easily. Whenever anyone says anything in a social setting which raises doubt, this is the line I'm going to use. It's bound to get me laid I'm sure.

Molly: "You know, no two snowflakes are the same."
Me: "I very SERIOUSLY doubt that old chestnut."
Molly: "Take me now."

 

[IBM]

i think it have to do with the DHT's sensivity of the follicles. Some go bald with little DHT.

 

[metalheaddude]

i think it have to do with the DHT's sensivity of the follicles. Some go bald with little DHT.

:agree:

 

[abcdefg]

If there is an unknown inhibitory effect in the very front and we know estrogen and testosterone can change hair growth cycles then Bryan how can you say for sure rising testosterone, or estrogen is not involved in any way in causing a mature hairline?
For all we know the rise in testosterone alone is enough to cause the frontal hair to miniaturize. We know testosterone binds just like DHT so a man with normal testosterone levels should lose hair even if its just a teenage hairline. My personal debate is should I take propecia with very very slight miniaturization in the front just to maintain? I am not even sure its male pattern baldness but 95 percent of the time it is so statistically speaking its extremely likely its male pattern baldness. So its propecia or sit around and wait for science to figure this "unknown factor" in the front.

 

[abcdefg]

Let me also say this. I was a senior in high school or about 18 or 19. I had absolutely zero dark facial hair, body hair or anything. I had hair like Brad Pitt or what ever stupid celebrity you want to imagine but I truly had extremely thick hair. My hairloss has truly corresponded to the small increases in body hair and facial hair. I have facial hair on my neck, and face although its not very thick.
There is a guy at my work who turned 30 a few weeks ago. He has absolutely no facial hair at all and I have heard people say he looks like he is 15. He has a perfect teenage hairline and most people like it. The whole point is though there seems to be a correlation from what I see between hairloss and facial hair which the androgen theory supports if facial hair grows from androgens alone which is not proven yet. Sensitivity of course plays a role but if you removed all androgens Im starting to think a person would never lose any hair at all. I might take propecia because I believe androgens are responsible for nearly all hairloss, but I am not convinced testosterone and other androgen related hormones play no role at all.

 

[abcdefg]

Someone losing very little hair slowly over time might just have hair that is very sensitive to dht. Taking propecia might make it worse just by increasing testosterone when there dht is already very low. You never know and no one can say thats not the case.

 

[Epiphany]

I read on a different forum couple guys saying propecia destroys hairlines while saving vertex hair? now thats a really screwed up side, is this really true cos if so i aint havin it...can others on here confirm if propecia screws ur hairline??

Seriously, look at what you're saying and assess its logic. There is no chemical in finasteride that is destined only to target the hairline and destroy it. Come on, have a f*****g clue.

 

[metalheaddude]

I REALLY think there is something other DHT that causes mature hairlines and the initial receading of hairlines. The most likely culprit is testosterone more than DHT. It really needs to be investigated more.

 

[abcdefg]

I agree. Testosterone does damage hair we know this. If androgens damage hair then we need a treatment that essentially lowers or removes all androgens not just select ones like DHT just because its the most powerful.