propecia - the bigger picture

[youngguy_uk]

having been on propecia for 3 months, ive seen a lot of thickening on top and up front. unfortunately, in the last few weeks, ive seen a lot of shedding on my crown. however, i suspect (at least hope) that this will regrow.

im just wondering, if this this shedding-regrowth cycle goes on for, say, 2 or 3 years, and then the body gets used to propecia and hairloss progresses as it would have naturally once again, whats the point in committing yourself to this drug for life? does propecia simply buy you 2 or 3 more years, which are riddled with sheds and regrowth anyway?

id take propecia anyway, because id at least like to keep my hair decent while im at university. but maybe its a question for you older guys to consider?

is there anyone who posts here, or used to post here, who has used propecia for over 2 years? (the longer the better). can we get them to come back just for a while so we can post them our questions perhaps?

 

[Bob_Marley]

Over 2 years here. As long as it hold on for 6 years it will have done it's job. So far so good. I think.

 

[youngguy_uk]

good to hear. i just hope it can last 8 years or anything near that.

 

[Hinde]

if i hold for eight years from now, i will get a massive tatoo of propecia's molecular structure. right on my back left shoulder.

 

[Kramer3]

You should pm X50: According to him he's been on it for 10 years now and has seen good results.

What worries me about Proscar is the potenital for prostate cancer. I'm only 18 right now and I would be extremely satisified if it lasted me 8 years before it lost its effectiveness. I just have to hope though that they develop a better way of fighting prostate cancer later on in life because if they don't I could be in trouble. What am I going to do if i'm 40 and have prostate cancer when the #1 drug to fight it has already lost it's effectiveness on me?

 

[Theguy]

Kramer if propecia loses it's effectiviness against hairloss, I still think it is effective to fight prostate cancer. Besides, I thought propecia was to fight oversized prostate, not prostate cancer.

 

[Stingray]

Finasteride can't CAUSE prostate cancer... what it does is lowers the ability to DETECT it. If you were prone to prostate cancer, you'd get it whether you have been taking finasteride or not.

Y'know, this reminds me of hairsite. One guy says a potential side effect(that's not even likely, proven, or even substatiated), and now EVERYONE is worried about it.

Well, did you know that worrying has it's side effects too? Yeah, it's called being bald, and wishing you would have jumped at the chance to save what you got but were too busy being worried about it.

Pick your poison.

 

[Kramer3]

Stingray: You misconstrued what I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to imply that finasteride can cause prostate cancer or BPH. What i was trying to say is that once it stops working for you it means that it's effectiveness to prevent the formatinon of excess DHT, the same DHT that promotes hairloss is lost. I'm not sure why this happens but i assume the reason it does is because it has a life capacity and our body adapts and becomes somewhat immune to it.

Say someone was prone to get Prostate Cancer or BPH around the age of 45. This same person began taking finasteride when they were 35 to stop their hairloss. They had good results with finasteride and it worked for 7-8 years before it eventually stopped doing its job. Then they get prostate cancer or BPH which they would have got regardless of the finasteride. Now what treatments do they have to stop it? The most effective treatment they've already became immune to (finasteride). Thats the situation I was talking about.

I'm not worrying I'm just trying to think long term although it doesn't particularly pertain to me because by that time there will probably be bigger better drugs out there. I'm just wondering if this could happen to someone like I described above, thats that age.

 

[Hinde]

Kramer3: Finasteride is not used to treat prostate cancer. It is used to treat BPH. These are two completely different afflictions (although an enlarged prostate can be a precursor or symptom to prostate cancer). So you don't have to worry about using up Proscar's utility -- worry about not using up Propecia's utility.

 

[Rage]

What worries me about Proscar is the potenital for prostate cancer. I'm only 18 right now

If you read some papers on Proscar/finasteride, you would have found that in some studies a few patients on finasteride developed a rare form of prostate cancer, while others on placebo did not. And if you looked at another paper, a few people on placebo developed this cancer, while people on finasteride did not. The result? No provable causual link.

 

[Administrator]

Say someone was prone to get Prostate Cancer or BPH around the age of 45. This same person began taking finasteride when they were 35 to stop their hairloss. They had good results with finasteride and it worked for 7-8 years before it eventually stopped doing its job. Then they get prostate cancer or BPH which they would have got regardless of the finasteride. Now what treatments do they have to stop it?

Dutasteride / Avodart.

gourmetstylewellness.com Admin

 

[Guest]

Say someone was prone to get Prostate Cancer or BPH around the age of 45. This same person began taking finasteride when they were 35 to stop their hairloss. They had good results with finasteride and it worked for 7-8 years before it eventually stopped doing its job. Then they get prostate cancer or BPH which they would have got regardless of the finasteride. Now what treatments do they have to stop it?

Dutasteride / Avodart.

gourmetstylewellness.com Admin

The above drug is a treatment for BPH, not prostate cancer.

 

[Kramer3]

Did i not mention BPH in my post? I might have been misinformed about prostate cancer but what does BPH eventually lead to; prostate cancer. gourmetstylewellness.com was the only one who offered a solution to the hypothetical problem in which I depicted.

Rage: Try to read carefully. I absolutely hate it when people misconstrue posts and then I have to respond to their mistaken interpretations.

 

[guy83]

Ok I know that this post is heading towards the cancer sector..lol but lets talk more about what you guys said about propecia losing its affect after 6-8 years?

Some of you seemed happy with that. Im asking how?
If I'm 20 and I commit to use it I would want it to work forever, not for just several years. What a person to do after the propecia loses it effect?
You stop propecia and lose youre hair again?

 

[jblig]

you use the new treatment that will be out by 8 years time, nobody using propecia is planning on using it for life, its just to by time until the next miracle drug comes out......

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

The above drug is a treatment for BPH, not prostate cancer.

And finasteride is also a treatment for BPH. I took it upon myself to assume he meant BPH since finasteride was the topic.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[Guest]

The above drug is a treatment for BPH, not prostate cancer.

And finasteride is also a treatment for BPH. I took it upon myself to assume he meant BPH since finasteride was the topic.

gourmetstylewellness.com

I am clear. Just wanted him to know the distinction!

:lol:

 

[Bryan]

Stingray: You misconstrued what I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to imply that finasteride can cause prostate cancer or BPH. What i was trying to say is that once it stops working for you it means that it's effectiveness to prevent the formatinon of excess DHT, the same DHT that promotes hairloss is lost. I'm not sure why this happens but i assume the reason it does is because it has a life capacity and our body adapts and becomes somewhat immune to it.

There's not a shred of evidence to suggest that finasteride eventually loses its ability to prevent the formation of DHT.

Bryan

 

[Kramer3]

There's not a shred of evidence to suggest that finasteride eventually loses its ability to prevent the formation of DHT.

Bryan if finasteride doesn't eventually lose it's capacity to prevent the formation of DHT then why does it stop working for people? When they adapt to the drug, the drug loses it's potence and is no longer able to do it's job which is preventing DHT. That is why people are talking about finasteride's life capacity in this thread.

 

[guy83]

you use the new treatment that will be out by 8 years time, nobody using propecia is planning on using it for life, its just to by time until the next miracle drug comes out......

How certain is it that there would be a miracle drug would come out?
I think first they should stumble across some drug that would work like propecia and minoxidil but only faster. So instead of having the results in a year time, u get it in a 6 months time or 3 months time.
Something like that sounds more reasonable to be discovered in the next 8 years than a ''miracle drug''. But then again, who knows?!