Relationship Between Fathers Hair Status And Son's Hair Status.

What is a Relationship between father's hair status and sons hair status?


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abcdefg

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"My father is bald/ balding but i have good hair"
"My father has good hair and mee too"

why would anyone pick these and be on the forum?

Feel better about themselves maybe? No one is ever safe though at any age. So its not wise to make fun of the random bald guys because in a few years you might be in those same shoes! Actually statistically speaking its only a matter of time before you do start balding. Most men do even if its later on in life. Which to me reinforces the idea that male hormones play a very important role in male pattern baldness and most men are susceptible over time.
 

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"My father is bald/ balding but i have good hair"
"My father has good hair and mee too"

why would anyone pick these and be on the forum?
Because they didn't have good hair, but the treatment they selected for themselves worked successfully and now they have good hair.
My father is bald and I have good hair. Oh, and my brother, 16 months old than me, is also balding.
 

Mandar kumthekar

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Feel better about themselves maybe? No one is ever safe though at any age. So its not wise to make fun of the random bald guys because in a few years you might be in those same shoes! Actually statistically speaking its only a matter of time before you do start balding. Most men do even if its later on in life. Which to me reinforces the idea that male hormones play a very important role in male pattern baldness and most men are susceptible over time.
I am not making fun of anyone. I am Norwood 2 but not bald. I gave those two options to see a clear relationship between father and son when it comes to male pattern baldness. Don't doubt my sincerity.
 

@GeraltOfRivia

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My dad whole family is bald.At age of 48 my dad is completely bald.Just few hair at back of head.
 

@GeraltOfRivia

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Just a year ago I had thickest hair in my whole family.Now I am just a balding guy The way I am losing hair I am sure even with use of duta I will go completely bald by the age of 26 or 27.I am 20 currently
 

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I am opening a pole to just see a relationship between father's and son's when it comes to male pattern baldness.thanks

My father and grandfather started balding around their early 20s. Mother's side everyone has had hair atleast uptil their latest 60s. I'm 23 and no sign of thinning yet

Honestly I'm here because I also suffer from ocd and recently it's about hair fall. Info on this forum ( along with psychological treatment of course :p ) and reading all your experiences helps calm me down and realise that haifall isn't the end of the world.

But yes that's my situation for now
 

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What does it mean?your Father started loosing hair in 40's and mothers side has good hair genes! Does it mean hairloss genetics/ inheritance is poorly understood?
I am amazed to see this negative trait is so much complex biologically. Why would nature selected this trait at the first place? What advantage had it to our male ancestors(if any)?
But i want to see paternal side correlation with male pattern baldness. I request all to vote.
I agree with you . You would think in nature as we get older our skin thins with less moisture . If anything nature would provide us with more hair as we age to protect our skin not less .
 

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My dad is bald, can't say what norwood exactly, im not a good norwood spotter lol my stepdad is 60 with a full head of hair and not even greying yet thinks im a freak for taking drugs to treat my hair loss. It's just natural he says, you shouldn't be bothered by it...easy for him to say lol
 

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There is no exclusive genes associated with male pattern baldness. Male pattern baldness is related to poor craniofacial development which due to genetic and environmental factors. Identical twins lose hair in the same way but they share the same environment from conception to late teens. Hair loss is so widespread in modern age because poor craniofacial development is huge problem of modern era. Even if your uncles, parents, grandparents etc. have good hair, you may lose it all because your scull development in worse way.

Craniofacial development is crucial to your posture and muscle action.

Poor posture leads to tighter neck muscles and then excessive mechanical tension on the galea and then scalp hypoxia and then hair loss.

The usage of bottles instead of breast feeding is the major cause of poorer craniofacial development.

Posture worsens with age among with skin thinning and reduced blood supply, and then we see more hair loss.

As I said I noticed that balding men have different craniofacial development compared to balding men.

Here's an example of good craniofacial development compared to poor one.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d794f3f8a60c04eb701b92b2681a2b03

I saw a lot of guys like the guy on the bottom pictures with hair loss who look like this.
 
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What if my dad isn't bald, but his father is? Also I should mention that my maternal grandfather wasn't bald as well. I'm not balding I guess, although I have receded a bit but stayed the same for the past 4 years.
 

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Dad, grandad and cousins are balding uncle as well. Me I have the hair and hairline of a teenager, so I'm told. I still worry about hairloss. Mid 30s btw. its genetic Russian roulette.
 

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Dad, grandad and cousins are balding uncle as well. Me I have the hair and hairline of a teenager, so I'm told. I still worry about hairloss. Mid 30s btw. its genetic Russian roulette.

You have the hairline of a teenager in your mid 30s... What are you doing here?
 

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There is no exclusive genes associated with male pattern baldness. Male pattern baldness is related to poor craniofacial development which due to genetic and environmental factors. Identical twins lose hair in the same way but they share the same environment from conception to late teens. Hair loss is so widespread in modern age because poor craniofacial development is huge problem of modern era. Even if your uncles, parents, grandparents etc. have good hair, you may lose it all because your scull development in worse way.

Craniofacial development is crucial to your posture and muscle action.

Poor posture leads to tighter neck muscles and then excessive mechanical tension on the galea and then scalp hypoxia and then hair loss.

The usage of bottles instead of breast feeding is the major cause of poorer craniofacial development.

Posture worsens with age among with skin thinning and reduced blood supply, and then we see more hair loss.

As I said I noticed that balding men have different craniofacial development compared to balding men.

Here's an example of good craniofacial development compared to poor one.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d794f3f8a60c04eb701b92b2681a2b03

I saw a lot of guys like the guy on the bottom pictures with hair loss who look like this.

Sources please or keep your broscience away.
 

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My father is in his sixties, still has good crown, balding in the area from there towards the temples. I'm 33, balding at the crown. Natural widows peak, but it's probably gotten higher, i haven't been measuring.

I'm the only one in my family balding before 40. Didn't see that one coming lol.

Of course, s**t diet and way too much alcohol probably speedened up the process.
 
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Mitko1

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Sources please or keep your broscience away.

https://tmdocclusion.com/2018/07/14/more-on-hair-loss/amp/

https://tmdocclusion.com/home/connection-to-other-diseases-and-syndromes/hair-loss/

I noticed that everybody who's balding has poor cranofacial development. Haven't you noticed that balding guys have different craniofacial development than non balding guys.
I can give 1000 examples but I will give just two

Look at first two guys. Look how bad their cranofacial development is compared to the second pair of guys who have full heads of hair.

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/secondary/Balding-man-in-blue-shirt-813355.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/925852797362348032/r0ioQPjw_400x400.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ry_Levi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180807003103

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/David_Schwimmer_2011.jpg

You can see the oddly pear shaped head of the first guy and the poorly shaped nose and cranial distortion of the second guy.
 

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https://tmdocclusion.com/2018/07/14/more-on-hair-loss/amp/

https://tmdocclusion.com/home/connection-to-other-diseases-and-syndromes/hair-loss/

I noticed that everybody who's balding has poor cranofacial development. Haven't you noticed that balding guys have different craniofacial development than non balding guys.
I can give 1000 examples but I will give just two

Look at first two guys. Look how bad their cranofacial development is compared to the second pair of guys who have full heads of hair.

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/secondary/Balding-man-in-blue-shirt-813355.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/925852797362348032/r0ioQPjw_400x400.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ry_Levi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180807003103

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/David_Schwimmer_2011.jpg

You can see the oddly pear shaped head of the first guy and the poorly shaped nose and cranial distortion of the second guy.


Sigh... your 'source' is just a guy proposing an alternative theory. ZERO research has been done to test this theory so it is just a theory by some nobody with a blog.

Second, your anecdotal pictures of guys with bad CD don't mean a thing. I could also list millions of people that did not get cancer from smoking, does that mean smoking does not cause cancer? I have perfect CD and I am still thinning...
 

Mitko1

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Sigh... your 'source' is just a guy proposing an alternative theory. ZERO research has been done to test this theory so it is just a theory by some nobody with a blog.

Second, your anecdotal pictures of guys with bad CD don't mean a thing. I could also list millions of people that did not get cancer from smoking, does that mean smoking does not cause cancer? I have perfect CD and I am still thinning...

Are you sure that you have good craniofacial development. The guy who wrote the two articles says that e couldn't find any bald person with good craniofacial development. And what he says about the bone remodeling and bones changing in presence of forces is definitely true. This is the reason why balding men's head shape looks different compared to non-balding men. Bones change in order to protect the brain from the excessive mechanical tension.
That explains to me why when someone who is balding and shaves his head looks different compared to someone who still has hair. The galea of balding men looks more rigid and tighter, while the galea of non-balding men looks flatter and wider.

My questions for you are:

Are you thinning in the classic Norwood pattern with advancing temporal recession and thinning at the crown? 97% of balding men bald in this pattern. Less than 3% of men bald in diffuse thinning or other. If you have other pattern than the regular there is a chance that your hair loss is not male pattern baldness.

And the second question is:
Are you experiencing jaw and neck problems? And are sure that you don't have excessive vertical growth of the maxilla, thin nose, asymmetrical ears, uneven front teeth and narrow palate?
 

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There is no exclusive genes associated with male pattern baldness. Male pattern baldness is related to poor craniofacial development which due to genetic and environmental factors. Identical twins lose hair in the same way but they share the same environment from conception to late teens. Hair loss is so widespread in modern age because poor craniofacial development is huge problem of modern era. Even if your uncles, parents, grandparents etc. have good hair, you may lose it all because your scull development in worse way.

Craniofacial development is crucial to your posture and muscle action.

Poor posture leads to tighter neck muscles and then excessive mechanical tension on the galea and then scalp hypoxia and then hair loss.

The usage of bottles instead of breast feeding is the major cause of poorer craniofacial development.

Posture worsens with age among with skin thinning and reduced blood supply, and then we see more hair loss.

As I said I noticed that balding men have different craniofacial development compared to balding men.

Here's an example of good craniofacial development compared to poor one.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d794f3f8a60c04eb701b92b2681a2b03

I saw a lot of guys like the guy on the bottom pictures with hair loss who look like this.
I look more like the "good" example and I still seem to bald now. I don't know man..
 

Mitko1

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I look more like the "good" example and I still seem to bald now. I don't know man..
The sad news for you is that you really do have poor craniofacial development. Nose is in good shape but your cheekbones are too narrow. You have classic bone remodeling of balding people and that means that your neck muscles are in continuous tension and that's why you are losing hair.
 
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