Severe Propecia side effects - please read!

[Finsides]

Subject: finasteride - the cause of long term sexual dysfunction; hypogonadism

For those who have used finasteride and are suffering from long term problems with this drug. There has been a support group formed on yahoo to help deal with these devastating side effects.

Some of side effects current members are experiencing are
sexual side effects (libido, impotence, ejaculation problems)
Penile Changes, decrease in size and structure (where the penis bends
more in one direction)
Lack of emotions
Loss of Stamina
Testicular Shrinkage
Testicular Pain
Groin Pain
These are long term problems that in a lot of instances have continued, and even worsened, after cessation of the drug. There are many others as well as those listed above, but these are just some of the more common issues.

This group is not for people concerned with hair loss problems, or asking if you should take finasteride, you know what our answer will be.

We are aware that many people have success with using finasteride and we are not here to attack this drug since for the majority of people it has a positive effect. We merely wish to extend an offer of help to anyone in the same position as us. So if the drug is working for you, please don't join the message defending the drug.

If you would like to know more about the group and to learn about possible methods for combatting the long problems inflicted by this drug, either reply to this thread or send me a private message for more information.

Thank you!

 

[misterium]

I cannot imagine what it would be like to have a lot of those symptoms from finasteride use.

It's almost amazing to me how these sides can be so devestating, yet I haven't suffered a single one.

Why do some people get such severe sides? I don't understand it really.

 

[Bismarck]

Could you explain what is meant by "Penile Changes, decrease in size and structure ... ". :shock:

I've never heard of such sides (only in rats).

bis

 

[not me!]

I cannot imagine what it would be like to have a lot of those symptoms from finasteride use.

It's almost amazing to me how these sides can be so devestating, yet I haven't suffered a single one.

Why do some people get such severe sides? I don't understand it really.

I would bet $100 right now that hype, paranoia, the placebo effect accounts for 99.99%.

 

[Finsides]

I would bet $100 right now that hype, paranoia, the placebo effect accounts for 99.99%.

Social drinker, I wholeheartedly accept your bet and offer to raise the stakes if you so will. Quite exactly how I or anyone else can prove this to you one way or the other in order to close the bet I do not know. I'm sure you will attempt to refer me to Merck's studies but I would question whether you believe everything you read?

How dare you presume to know my body better than I do and how dare you express this uncalled for cynicism towards myself and the numerous other sufferers out there who are, despite the aspersions that your ill informed and naive opinion casts, suffering from something that is both seriously debilitating and genuine.

I repeat once again that I am not here to scare-monger, to flame this drug nor preach about its dangers. I am simply extending a helping hand to anyone that might need it. If that makes my presence here unwelcome, then so be it, for that I am sorry. But please do not add such cynical postings to this thread simply because you do not like its contents. I wish I was like most people when it comes to this drug and had remained problem free, but I know that the awful things it has done to me are real and true and I fear that there more sufferers out there afflicted with these sickening problems. It is from these that I want to hear, not the likes of you.

 

[Buffboy]

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[Brasileirao]

I would bet $100 right now that hype, paranoia, the placebo effect accounts for 99.99%.

Social drinker, I wholeheartedly accept your bet and offer to raise the stakes if you so will. Quite exactly how I or anyone else can prove this to you one way or the other in order to close the bet I do not know. I'm sure you will attempt to refer me to Merck's studies but I would question whether you believe everything you read?

How dare you presume to know my body better than I do and how dare you express this uncalled for cynicism towards myself and the numerous other sufferers out there who are, despite the aspersions that your ill informed and naive opinion casts, suffering from something that is both seriously debilitating and genuine.

I repeat once again that I am not here to scare-monger, to flame this drug nor preach about its dangers. I am simply extending a helping hand to anyone that might need it. If that makes my presence here unwelcome, then so be it, for that I am sorry. But please do not add such cynical postings to this thread simply because you do not like its contents. I wish I was like most people when it comes to this drug and had remained problem free, but I know that the awful things it has done to me are real and true and I fear that there more sufferers out there afflicted with these sickening problems. It is from these that I want to hear, not the likes of you.

Im not discounting your problems..

However, if the side effects were truly that big of a problem dont you think there would be lawsuits all over the place.

Besides, most drugs out there have some sort of side effect. Just look at all those commercials...you take something for cholesterol and you risk having a stroke, heart attack.....etc.

Propecia may have its downs, but so does everything else. I hope that everything works out for you!!!

Tony

 

[not me!]

"How dare you...blah blah blah..."


Pull your panties out of a wad. It was a statement. Nothing more....

I never said that you never had any side effects. Hoewever, if there was a way to prove it, id lay my life saving's on the line that I am right.

You know why? Because I am right, that's why.

I am not saying that noone has side effects from Finasteride use. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. I personally believe that Finasteride made me lethargic and made it hard for me to focus and concentrate. Know what I did? I switched to Dutasteride. Hell, I wanted to go to dutasteride. anyway.

So far, I have had no problems with Dutasteride *knocks on wood*.

What I didn't do was piss and moan at others on a hair loss forum for not agreeing 100% with what I said.

Look, flaming posting wars are dumb and so is this conversation. We are both above this. Have your"support group," sing Kumbaya, roast S'mores, I don't care...HOWEVER, I still stand whole-heartedly by my stance that I believe MANY posters that come on these forums let themselves become siked out to the point that the problem is, in fact, in their heads.

Oh, and one last thing, "Finsides," if you went and bought a pair of underwear that chafed would you start a support group? If the steak you ordered came out medium-rare instead of medium-well, would you sit and talk about your feelings with strangers about it? I guess that I don't understand the whole "let's sit around and talk about our limp dicks" thing. You stop the medication; you stop the sides. End of story. What else is there to talk about?




Buffboy,

That is pretty funny, isn't it? It's like youre my Danish counterpart or something...hahaha.

 

[maxzax]

"How dare you...blah blah blah..."


Pull your panties out of a wad. It was a statement. Nothing more....

I never said that you never had any side effects. Hoewever, if there was a way to prove it, id lay my life saving's on the line that I am right.

You know why? Because I am right, that's why.

I am not saying that noone has side effects from Finasteride use. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. I personally believe that Finasteride made me lethargic and made it hard for me to focus and concentrate. Know what I did? I switched to Dutasteride. Hell, I wanted to go to dutasteride. anyway.

So far, I have had no problems with Dutasteride *knocks on wood*.

What I didn't do was piss and moan at others on a hair loss forum for not agreeing 100% with what I said.

Look, flaming posting wars are dumb and so is this conversation. We are both above this. Have your"support group," sing Kumbaya, roast S'mores, I don't care...HOWEVER, I still stand whole-heartedly by my stance that I believe MANY posters that come on these forums let themselves become siked out to the point that the problem is, in fact, in their heads.

Oh, and one last thing, "Finsides," if you went and bought a pair of underwear that chafed would you start a support group? If the steak you ordered came out medium-rare instead of medium-well, would you sit and talk about your feelings with strangers about it? I guess that I don't understand the whole "let's sit around and talk about our limp dicks" thing. You stop the medication; you stop the sides. End of story. What else is there to talk about?




Buffboy,

That is pretty funny, isn't it? It's like youre my Danish counterpart or something...hahaha.

Buffboy,

"I personally believe that Finasteride made me lethargic and made it hard for me to focus and concentrate. "

finasteride only causes psychological problems. I doubt it made you lethargic and unable to concentrate, stop making up things!

If finasteride only only blocks one type of ar5 and causes psychological problems, wouldn't dutasteride cause more psychological problems.

 

[Finsides]

"How dare you...blah blah blah..."


Pull your panties out of a wad. It was a statement. Nothing more....

I never said that you never had any side effects. Hoewever, if there was a way to prove it, id lay my life saving's on the line that I am right.

You know why? Because I am right, that's why.

I am not saying that noone has side effects from Finasteride use. Quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. I personally believe that Finasteride made me lethargic and made it hard for me to focus and concentrate. Know what I did? I switched to Dutasteride. Hell, I wanted to go to dutasteride. anyway.

So far, I have had no problems with Dutasteride *knocks on wood*.

What I didn't do was piss and moan at others on a hair loss forum for not agreeing 100% with what I said.

Look, flaming posting wars are dumb and so is this conversation. We are both above this. Have your"support group," sing Kumbaya, roast S'mores, I don't care...HOWEVER, I still stand whole-heartedly by my stance that I believe MANY posters that come on these forums let themselves become siked out to the point that the problem is, in fact, in their heads.

Oh, and one last thing, "Finsides," if you went and bought a pair of underwear that chafed would you start a support group? If the steak you ordered came out medium-rare instead of medium-well, would you sit and talk about your feelings with strangers about it? I guess that I don't understand the whole "let's sit around and talk about our limp dicks" thing. You stop the medication; you stop the sides. End of story. What else is there to talk about?




Buffboy,

That is pretty funny, isn't it? It's like youre my Danish counterpart or something...hahaha.

So you never said I didn't have any side effects, but you'd still lay your life savings on it that you're right. How is that any different?

And let me remind you, if anyone started flaming posts it was you. Your statement as you put it was specifically the thing I asked not for. It is not the kind of response this thread is here for. I have acknowledged the drug is good for the majority so you do not need to come out in defense of it. If i'm "pissing and moaning" then you are too. I ceased taking finasteride in June 2002 after taking it for 11 months. The exact problem is that the side effects haven't gone away as advertised. But I'm sure you will choose to question that simply because it does not fall in line with what Merck say.

And thank you ever so much for your ever so enlightening analogies that are so closely on a par with the problems I started this post for. You want to mock a support group but this hairloss group is exactly the same thing and it is for a far more trivial issue than impotence. So I ask you to think, for just a couple of seconds, how would you handle erectile dysfunction? What would you do? It's difficult to answer and I am purely here in this thread to offer anyone who has these and other serious related problems any assistance I can.

 

[Buffboy]

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[not me!]

Er,

1) I'm not Buffboy. I'm social-drinker. Nice tah meetcha.

2) Oh, we've met. Hi "Finsides." Nice new name you got there.

3) "finasteride only causes psychological problems" Really? And what, exactly, do you mean by "psychological"? Gyno? That's psychological? Pfft.

4) "wouldn't dutasteride cause more psychological problems.?" In theory, yes. However, these are complex medications that are introduced into a complex environment. Who knows what effects, long- and short-term Dutasteride can and will have on me? Noone, that is who. The studies show that this % of men get this and this % of men get that, however who is to say who gets what? I have not had any sides thus far. If I do get sides, I'll either find a way to live with them or I'll discontinue the medication. Life goes on.

5) "stop making up things! " Riiiiight. The only reason that I pointed out that I belived that I has that side effect is to illustrate that I do agree with you that Finasteride CAN have side-effects on people. That's it. If you are so inept that you feel the need to argue with a point that I posted in your favor, then by all means; you win: I had no side-effects from Finasteride..:lol:

Sheesh, its like arguing with a spoiled child.

 

[Guest]

I would bet $100 right now that hype, paranoia, the placebo effect accounts for 99.99%.

yeppy do dah do (yes)

I am sure there are people who suffer excesive sides from finasteride but I would have to guess the prevalence of imagined problems is higher.

Lack of emotions, what does that mean?

 

[not me!]

Lack of emotions, what does that mean?

It means that its about time that I am tired of explaining the obvious to this crybaby.

gourmetstylewellness.com, my infinite apologies for this thread. I swear, man, I never meant to make her (Finsides) cry. I only offered her a different point of view, which I stand by.

Looks like me and the old girl will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[not me!]

Social Drinker, I guess we're soul mates - even though I hate your president :boom:

Heh heh, its cool, man. We can't all be perfect.

 

[Finsides]

Let that be the last of that then.

If anyone wishes to get in touch with me re: the original purpose of this thread please reply or send me a private message. I know this thread will be of value you to some. Sorry for the evident angst it has caused others though.

 

[mr_sparkle]

nonononono he's only gone and scared me off it just when I was about to add it to my regimen!!

Just kidding. I really hope I don't get ALL those side effects but if I do get a decrease in libido I guess I could just drink a lot / smoke a lot of weed as I always seem a bit hornyer when I'm drunk/stoned!

Dunno what to do if I get man-boobs though!

But yeah maybe PMA is the essential ingredient to success.

 

[too bald too furious]

The problem with these kinna posts is that any person who is about to start the most trusted and proven treatment in the market for hairloss will get scared and perhaps seed the "psychological" fears in his mind.

After he starts..even the minutest of changes..he will blame on Finasteride.
I think the number of side effects reported would had been very less had people not read threads like these.

 

[mr_sparkle]

yeah... I mean I know what could possibly happen but I think the fear of it might make me think the effects are happening if you see what I mean..

so I fear of a decreased libido, and one day I feel slightly less turned on by a particular film, so believe that it's the finasteride that's responsible. Or make myself believe I was less turned on.

But I guess it's good to know the effects can happen...

 

[Finsides]

The problem with these kinna posts is that any person who is about to start the most trusted and proven treatment in the market for hairloss will get scared and perhaps seed the "psychological" fears in his mind.

After he starts..even the minutest of changes..he will blame on Finasteride.
I think the number of side effects reported would had been very less had people not read threads like these.

And perhaps if I had read a thread like this prior to starting finasteride, I would never have risked taking it and thus wouldn't be here having to annoy you all with this thread....c'est la vie.

I'm sure that the overwhelming amount of positive reports that are out there will outweigh this one thread. I do not seek to discourage people starting this medication; I'm simply trying to find other people in the same boat as me for their own benefit. Sorry this seems so controversial.