Study: The balder you are, the fatter your heart!

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27081268/

Could the bald head be just a symptom of fatty heart disease?

Benign prostate enlargement is said to be caused by DHT. But now there seems to be a new theory: the prostate is only enlarged because it's fatty!

Even very slim people can have a fatty heart!

No. There are lots of VERY healthy bald guys.
 

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Define healthy. Just because the blood values are fine? That doesn't prove anything. Androgenetic Alopecia is always (!) associated with inflammation! Bald men have more PGD2, IgM, TGF-beta and other inflammatory mediators in the scalp. How can you call someone with inflammatory mediators in the scalp healthy?

My thesis: Androgenetic Alopecia is arteriosclerosis. The blood vessels are fatty. However, this cannot be proven in the blood. This could be due to a lack of choline. This dissolves fat. There is a field report on this in the German forum. A man took high doses of lecithin (where choline is high) and his hair grew back as a result. After he had a choline injection (fat-away injection) administered directly into his scalp, his hair sprouted like weeds.
 

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Choline induces canonical Wnt signalling and nuclear beta catenin. There is a positive correlation between atherosclerosis and Androgenetic Alopecia, but that doesn't mean atherosclerosis causes Androgenetic Alopecia, it means they may be caused by the same epigenetic changes that inhibit Wnt activity. Do you have a link to this report of choline scalp injections?
 

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Choline induces canonical Wnt signalling and nuclear beta catenin. There is a positive correlation between atherosclerosis and Androgenetic Alopecia, but that doesn't mean atherosclerosis causes Androgenetic Alopecia, it means they may be caused by the same epigenetic changes that inhibit Wnt activity. Do you have a link to this report of choline scalp injections?
The question must be why the wnt signal is disturbed. In any case, Androgenetic Alopecia seems to be a systemic problem. Otherwise there would be no connection with fatty heart disease.
 

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The question must be why the wnt signal is disturbed. In any case, Androgenetic Alopecia seems to be a systemic problem. Otherwise there would be no connection with fatty heart disease.

Tons of negative health factors correlate with hair loss. Immune system, cardiovascular, insulin, endo, etc.
 

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Define healthy. Just because the blood values are fine? That doesn't prove anything. Androgenetic Alopecia is always (!) associated with inflammation! Bald men have more PGD2, IgM, TGF-beta and other inflammatory mediators in the scalp. How can you call someone with inflammatory mediators in the scalp healthy?

My thesis: Androgenetic Alopecia is arteriosclerosis. The blood vessels are fatty. However, this cannot be proven in the blood. This could be due to a lack of choline. This dissolves fat. There is a field report on this in the German forum. A man took high doses of lecithin (where choline is high) and his hair grew back as a result. After he had a choline injection (fat-away injection) administered directly into his scalp, his hair sprouted like weeds.
study?
 

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The question must be why the wnt signal is disturbed. In any case, Androgenetic Alopecia seems to be a systemic problem. Otherwise there would be no connection with fatty heart disease.
So no proof of the guy growing hair with choline injections? I think HMI-115 may increase acetylcholine, but I doubt this is why it grows hair
 

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I already said before that bald men have sh*t health from sh*t genes causing them to have sh*t hair
 

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I already said before that bald men have sh*t health from sh*t genes causing them to have sh*t hair
This self-defeating attitude is too rampant on here. Not all bald men have the same genes, there's a correlation between Androgenetic Alopecia and some other diseases, that doesn't mean everyone with Androgenetic Alopecia will have those diseases. Most won't. Even if you will it still doesn't mean you have sh*t genes, it means you have a few sh*t genes out of tens of thousands, just like every other person on the planet. Everybody has both good and bad genes. The guy with great hair may die of leukemia. Stop degrading yourself and do what you can with the hand you've been dealt. So you didn't get a full house, but maybe you got a flush. Surely you have some redeeming qualities if you'd stop focusing on the one thing you don't have
 

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This self-defeating attitude is too rampant on here. Not all bald men have the same genes, there's a correlation between Androgenetic Alopecia and some other diseases, that doesn't mean everyone with Androgenetic Alopecia will have those diseases. Most won't. Even if you will it still doesn't mean you have sh*t genes, it means you have a few sh*t genes out of tens of thousands, just like every other person on the planet. Everybody has both good and bad genes. The guy with great hair may die of leukemia. Stop degrading yourself and do what you can with the hand you've been dealt. So you didn't get a full house, but maybe you got a flush. Surely you have some redeeming qualities if you'd stop focusing on the one thing you don't have
Yeah, but the problem is that a fullhead with Leukemia is still more sexually and socially desirable than a "healthy" young bald guy. I can't think of any genetic disadvantage as bad for reproduction and social life as baldness other than being born with literal deformities or severe mental disabilities
 

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Yeah, but the problem is that a fullhead with Leukemia is still more sexually and socially desirable than a "healthy" young bald guy. I can't think of any genetic disadvantage as bad for reproduction and social life as baldness other than being born with literal deformities or severe mental disabilities
Most men go bald and they have no problem finding a mate. Isaac Newton died a virgin, and his name will be remembered far longer than yours or mine. Maybe it's your mindset that is the problem, and not your hair loss or smv
 

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Most men go bald and they have no problem finding a mate. Isaac Newton died a virgin, and his name will be remembered far longer than yours or mine. Maybe it's your mindset that is the problem, and not your hair loss or smv
Settling down with a post-prime women who gives you shitty starfish sex each month after spending years socially isolated, sexually frustrated and living as a subhuman isn't a good thing

If you never started balding aggressively before 30 you will never get it. Guys like me have no option but to jump off a cliff
 

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Settling down with a post-prime women who gives you shitty starfish sex each month after spending years socially isolated, sexually frustrated and living as a subhuman isn't a good thing

If you never started balding aggressively before 30 you will never get it. Guys like me have no option but to jump off a cliff
It's a shame Isaac Newton didn't have incel culture to tell him to jump off a cliff. Poor guy had no idea how worthless he was
 

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It's a shame Isaac Newton didn't have incel culture to tell him to jump off a cliff. Poor guy had no idea how worthless he was
He was a celibate by choice, which is a BIG difference. I have nothing against celibacy or celibates, but many of us have always wanted to have normal partners and families and we can't due to our subhumanity
 

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He was a celibate by choice, which is a BIG difference. I have nothing against celibacy or celibates, but many of us have always wanted to have normal partners and families and we can't due to our subhumanity
Of course you can, don't be stupid. The problem isn't that you can't have a partner, it's that you can't have a partner who is a perfect ten. Most men, balding or not, are average and marry an average woman. Stop thinking you should be special. You need to get over yourself. I understand your feelings, the quantity and quality of women available to me is not the same as pre-balding. It sucks, but it's not the end of the world
 

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Of course you can, don't be stupid. The problem isn't that you can't have a partner, it's that you can't have a partner who is a perfect ten. Most men, balding or not, are average and marry an average woman. Stop thinking you should be special. You need to get over yourself
I've never ever seen a respectful, high class, educated woman in her 20's choosing a bald guy to date and f***. All you can pick up as a bald guy in your 20's is trash low class women (if they even give you a chance), landwhales, or wait until you're like 35 so you can betabux a woman who has like 200 partners count, and she will still treat you like sh*t because women inherently don't respect or admire bald guys

There's a reason the guys on here risk their dicks, masculinity and cardiovascular health to keep their hair. We're simply aware of the painful truth that society refuses to admit
 
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