Thinning All Over The Top, Dpa - Insane Hairloss In 3 Years

[aexit]

Hey so im 25 and i can say that i suffer from DPA and this started 3 years ago, I had a lot of hair before that and lost it all within 3 years!!,

Im on finasteride 1.25 ed,
And I have a few bottles of Morr-F 5% but not sure if its good to take oral finasteride + minoxidil with finasteride?
Should I microneedle without using minoxidil?

Do you think I can get the hair I lost or make it thicker? I always had very fine hair so imagine fine hair that is now thinning lmao...

What should I do?

I went from this: https://gyazo.com/8fc19b955a9e96a7d15bedb426d55144

to :

https://gyazo.com/55a76e6ca2bc2e5ecc52887c83696908

In 3 years omg

 

[Yakitori]

get on the big three, if nothing after 6 months, jump to duta for another 6 months, if nothing... give up.

 

[hopeforhappiness]

This thread scares the sh*t out of me.

Have you had a recent blood test to be sure that fina is even lowering your serum dht ? You might not be a responder, though I don’t know how long you’ve been taking it.

At 28 with duta and minoxidil I’d bet you could recover all of the most recent loss. You’ve lost a ton of hair in a short period of time so that could mean a great deal of improvement.

I would get on loniten asap. Do your research and monitor for sides, it is a blood pressure medication. If you have to get a water pill to take with it that can be done. I’d start at 2.5 mg a day and move up to see results. The point is try and get your hair growing as fast as possible because the longer the follicles are inactive or dead the less of a chance they will ever produce another hair. Continue topical minoxidil. If you can handle that much fina you may be able to handle duta. Start microneedling if you havent you should’ve been doing this the whole time. I would also start looking into ways to reduce inflammation and strongly consider the addition of a topical AR antagonist like ru58841. Assuming you respond to 5ar inhibitors if you are taking dutasteride and also using a topical AA and you do not see improvement it is likely that androgens are not the culprit.

 

[aexit]

This thread scares the sh*t out of me.

Have you had a recent blood test to be sure that fina is even lowering your serum dht ? You might not be a responder, though I don’t know how long you’ve been taking it.

At 28 with duta and minoxidil I’d bet you could recover all of the most recent loss. You’ve lost a ton of hair in a short period of time so that could mean a great deal of improvement.

I would get on loniten asap. Do your research and monitor for sides, it is a blood pressure medication. If you have to get a water pill to take with it that can be done. I’d start at 2.5 mg a day and move up to see results. The point is try and get your hair growing as fast as possible because the longer the follicles are inactive or dead the less of a chance they will ever produce another hair. Continue topical minoxidil. If you can handle that much fina you may be able to handle duta. Start microneedling if you havent you should’ve been doing this the whole time. I would also start looking into ways to reduce inflammation and strongly consider the addition of a topical AR antagonist like ru58841. Assuming you respond to 5ar inhibitors if you are taking dutasteride and also using a topical AA and you do not see improvement it is likely that androgens are not the culprit.

isnt loniten like minoxidil but in tablets or what am I missing?, Isnt it too much to use minoxidil+ ru+ finasteride/dutas+microneedling?, I mean my bro is bald on the crown and my dad is fully bald , im sure its Androgenetic Alopecia imo... but yea ill do all that stuff, but i think its a very aggressive regimen no?

Should i still use the minoxidil with topical fiin and still take oral dutas/finasteride ? Im scared about the loniten thing tho...

 

[hopeforhappiness]

isnt loniten like minoxidil but in tablets or what am I missing?, Isnt it too much to use minoxidil+ ru+ finasteride/dutas+microneedling?, I mean my bro is bald on the crown and my dad is fully bald , im sure its Androgenetic Alopecia imo... but yea ill do all that stuff, but i think its a very aggressive regimen no?

Should i still use the minoxidil with topical fiin and still take oral dutas/finasteride ? Im scared about the loniten thing tho...

I would taper off topical fina and get some regular topical minoxidil to use in its place. Loniten and dutasteride are agressive.

You seem to be handling large amounts of fina so switching to duta shouldn’t be much of an issue. With topical and oral fina you’re going to want to taper off but I wouldn’t start until you have the duta in hand to take at small doses and raise gradually.

If you have any history of heart conditions or complications obviously do not take loniten. But if you’re just weary for general health’s sake you can get your blood pressure checked semi regularly to assure that everything is normal. You can take a diuretic for water rentention. This is the most powerful growth stimulant. If you are tackling dht and loniten doesn’t get your hair growing then there are other factors aside from Androgenetic Alopecia at play. I’m starting on it next week. I can update you on my experience if it will make you feel more comfortable but if I were you I wouldn’t spend time waiting around. Loniten is a short term solution. I wouldn’t take it any longer than a couple years maximum but if you get some hair growing maybe you can maintain it with just topical minoxidil and anti androgens!

As for ARA side effects ru58841 is a pretty weak anti androgen. Much weaker than finasteride. The reason it would make a great addition to anyone’s fight is because it works by a different mode of action than fina and duta. Blocking androgen receptors rather than lowering androgens. No AA will completely plummet your systemic dht and if it did that would not be healthy. RU would help to stop any remaining dht from affecting your hair. Not to mention it gets applied directly to the scalp where you would need it.

This would be an aggressive regimen for very agressive hairloss. You don’t have to laugh it off anymore. Do your research. The more you read the more you will feel comfortable. Lots of things you read about these drugs and their sides will likely scare you but the more informed you are of any potential risks the better you will be at avoiding them entirely. You also don’t necessarily have to pick between life altering side effects and no hair. Technically you don’t have to have either.

Make sure to taper off/on any new or old treatments. Never go cold turkey with anything as this will likely shock your scalp and your body.

 

[aexit]

I would taper off topical fina and get some regular topical minoxidil to use in its place. Loniten and dutasteride are agressive.

You seem to be handling large amounts of fina so switching to duta shouldn’t be much of an issue. With topical and oral fina you’re going to want to taper off but I wouldn’t start until you have the duta in hand to take at small doses and raise gradually.

If you have any history of heart conditions or complications obviously do not take loniten. But if you’re just weary for general health’s sake you can get your blood pressure checked semi regularly to assure that everything is normal. You can take a diuretic for water rentention. This is the most powerful growth stimulant. If you are tackling dht and loniten doesn’t get your hair growing then there are other factors aside from Androgenetic Alopecia at play. I’m starting on it next week. I can update you on my experience if it will make you feel more comfortable but if I were you I wouldn’t spend time waiting around. Loniten is a short term solution. I wouldn’t take it any longer than a couple years maximum but if you get some hair growing maybe you can maintain it with just topical minoxidil and anti androgens!

As for ARA side effects ru58841 is a pretty weak anti androgen. Much weaker than finasteride. The reason it would make a great addition to anyone’s fight is because it works by a different mode of action than fina and duta. Blocking androgen receptors rather than lowering androgens. No AA will completely plummet your systemic dht and if it did that would not be healthy. RU would help to stop any remaining dht from affecting your hair. Not to mention it gets applied directly to the scalp where you would need it.

This would be an aggressive regimen for very agressive hairloss. You don’t have to laugh it off anymore. Do your research. The more you read the more you will feel comfortable. Lots of things you read about these drugs and their sides will likely scare you but the more informed you are of any potential risks the better you will be at avoiding them entirely. You also don’t necessarily have to pick between life altering side effects and no hair. Technically you don’t have to have either.

Make sure to taper off/on any new or old treatments. Never go cold turkey with anything as this will likely shock your scalp and your body.

Thx for all the info dude, btw should i apply ru once per day and basic minoxidil 5% once per day as well? or what should I do for these 2

I was thinking on this regimen:

2 per week 0.5 dutas
4 per week 1.25 finasteride
7 per week minoxidil once at night
2 per week dermaroller
RU ?
Loniten ?
How do I add these 2
or what should I do? Ive been on finasteride for 3 motnhs so i dont even know if it works for me so I shouldnt go that aggro imo at least not yet?

 

[hopeforhappiness]

3 months is not enough time to gauge whether or not fina is working for you, correct. Personally if I reached month 4 without a reduction in shedding I wouldn’t necessarily discontinue but I wouldn’t count on it working either. All that fina + duta would be extreme in the AA department, but maybe it’s what you need. Then again maybe it’s overkill. You won’t know until you test it. Just don’t ignore any sides.

At 1-1.5 dermarolling should be done maximum once a week. Anymore is probably bad on your scalp. You should see some micro dots of blood but don’t shred your scalp. The majority of the benefits from wounding come at 3 weeks after needling. If you are lightly rolling before applying topicals to increase absorption (this may be something to consider) you should use a .5 and this still should not be done every day. You should see little to no redness and no blood this way. Topicals go on directly after. The clinical studies for derma were done with 1.5 I think once a month ?

Loniten is every day and people at 10 mg will split the dose to half in the am and the other half in the pm. At 2-2.5 mg I would say take it all at once to get the most benefit. Everyone says this is the miracle regrowth drug, but no one sticks with it because of what it is. I wouldn’t either, but I would get nice and cozy on an effective AA + topical minoxidil routine before dropping. In your case I would do topical minoxidil at 1 ml twice a day. Losing a ton of hair in a short period of time is thought to be really agressive alopecia.

RU once or twice a day depending upon sides and results. 5-7.5% solutions are the standard I think? I use 7.5% in the am and 5% at night.

You can wait longer to see if fina is working but I wouldn’t wait to get on loniten + derma. I would be trying my hardest to revive and activate my hair follicles.

Probably seems ridiculous to be taking all these meds and rubbing foreign chems on your head. That’s because it is. But anyone balding long enough knows it’s a small price to pay for hair. Doesn’t take too long for all of this to become a quick and easy part of your routine. You get used to it and everything starts making more sense as you go along. Persistence is key. Until you see stabilization and regrowth it’s just trial and error.

 

[ryan Kelley]

This thread scares the sh*t out of me.

Have you had a recent blood test to be sure that fina is even lowering your serum dht ? You might not be a responder, though I don’t know how long you’ve been taking it.

At 28 with duta and minoxidil I’d bet you could recover all of the most recent loss. You’ve lost a ton of hair in a short period of time so that could mean a great deal of improvement.

I would get on loniten asap. Do your research and monitor for sides, it is a blood pressure medication. If you have to get a water pill to take with it that can be done. I’d start at 2.5 mg a day and move up to see results. The point is try and get your hair growing as fast as possible because the longer the follicles are inactive or dead the less of a chance they will ever produce another hair. Continue topical minoxidil. If you can handle that much fina you may be able to handle duta. Start microneedling if you havent you should’ve been doing this the whole time. I would also start looking into ways to reduce inflammation and strongly consider the addition of a topical AR antagonist like ru58841. Assuming you respond to 5ar inhibitors if you are taking dutasteride and also using a topical AA and you do not see improvement it is likely that androgens are not the culprit.

Can someone tell me if I have DUPA or dpa???

 

[ryan Kelley]

 

[ryan Kelley]

Some have better lighting than other and my hair gets very greasy very quick. Right out of the shower my hair is noticeably thin but my hairs are standing up. By the time I wake up in the morning my hair is flat and greasy and looks way more noticeable. I don’t know if I have DUPA or dpa or what??

 

[ryan Kelley]

I would feel more comfortable starting out on daily finasteride? It’s weird I went In for a thyroid check 2 years ago and they said there’s was a problem came back 6months later and I was fine. I don’t want to lose anymore of my hair if I could maintain what I have now and use a concealer I would be very happy.