Today was the day I realised to the full extent how hairloss

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has destroyed me from every angle.

Today, I went out to the cinema to take my mind of things. I wish I had never gone now. My day was destroyed when I went to the toilet and saw my hair in the mirror. It was brightish lights and really showed what a bad situation I’m in. I took off my baseball cap and my heart just sank. It’s just got 10 times worse. Finasteride and minoxidil seemed to have made my whole situation worse.

As I type this, I have the same feeling in the pit of my stomach. The same feeling that I’ve had for the last 2 years non-stop. That heart-sinking feeling .

Basically, my hair looks embarrassing at my age. This has devastated me to the extreme.

I’ll describe my hair.

It’s diffuse thinning - receding with a terrible hairline. The hair looks different in different lights. This is a nightmare. I cannot be myself, relax, my self-esteem resides at zero and my confidence has been destroyed. It’s all about preparation. I wasn’t prepared for this at all. I never knew severe hair loss would take away my enjoyment of my early 20’s. I no longer look forward to things. Even though I do have a laugh, I find it difficult to laugh with this mess on top of my head. People around my on a daily basis have made this nightmare even worse, as they have taken advantage of how this has effected me, by becoming more confident themselves.

My social life is non-existent these days. I have no desire to go out as this has hit me for 6. You may ask, how can this effect someone so badly. Well, I don’t know, but it has me. Maybe it was vanity? The fact 2 years ago I was happy with my appearance, only for 2/3 years later to be transformed into an ugly person because of this.

1/10th of the person I should be. I have been somewhat forced to change. The things I used to do, can no longer be done as they are frowned upon by people.

I have found that I just cannot relax anymore. This situation is on my mind 24/7. Why? Why am I effected so badly mentally by this. Here’s the reason why. As I say, I used to feel good about my appearance. This whole situation of feeling like a twat is new to me. I *don’t* know how to handle it.

My motivation has been killed. All I do is sit up in my room and rot. Well, not quite rot, but that’s what I am doing. I have no desire to go out and live life. My appearance has been wrecked due to this and I am severely embarrassed by it. I can’t help it.

I’ve spent a lot of money on propecia, procsar & minoxidil. And It has all been in-vain thus far.

I started minoxidil in May 2003. I used it for 4 months and had moderate results. I stupidly stopped. 4.5 months later and had a nightmare shed. Non-minoxidil reliant hair even shed leaving me looking ugly. So I re-started in panic 4.5 months ago. 4.5 months later, my hair hasn’t returned to how it was. The results aren’t worth speaking about so far. I haven’t recovered from the minoxidil shed. The minoxidil shed has just destroyed my hair.

I feel I have no choice but to get a hair transplant within the next 2 years, even though I don’t have the money at this time.

I read rammers posts on here. Same age, I’m in a worse position than him. At least he has a girlfriend and is in touch with mates. I have no chance of getting a girlfriend with the hair I have at the moment. None at all. Yet when I put my baseball cap on, I get looked at as if I’m half human again. I hate getting looks from girls when I‘m wearing my baseball cap because I feel it’s unjustified. I don’t want to even look at girls anymore because reality is, I will have no chance with them. When I nice girl passes, everyone else looks, I can’t even bring myself to look at her. I am hiding behind a baseball cap and it’s false. Hair loss at an early age has prevented me from being myself.

Basically, my whole day was a nightmare, when I viewed myself in that light in the cinema toilets. My whole world sunk with the realisation that my life has changed 100%. I went to watch the film. I just wanted to get home. I felt sick from what I saw.

The thing is. I can’t accept this. I can’t accept the change this has caused. In every angle of my life. Not just from my way of thinking, but from perception, to what I can say or how I say it.

No joke, the fact that I have to shave my head (probably mixed with the disappointment and depression etched on my face most of the time) gives people the impression I’m a criminal, even though I have never commit a single crime in my life. This is truly horrifying and it angers me. Even though I just have put up with it. I just wish I could smile with a shaved head more, but it’s hard when I know that it doesn’t suit me and looks shocking. It doesn’t and has never worked on me.

I’ve never smoked a single cigarette in my life, but because of my shaved head, people perceiving me as a probable druggie isn’t out of the question. But still I have to grin and bear it.

This has all happened too quick.

That’s part of why I’m taking this so badly. I wasn’t prepared for this.

Everything stems from the fact I have hair loss at a young age. It has effected every angle possible.


My life plan has gone down the drain. I had a plan of what I wanted to do, from career path to how I planned my hobbies. Now it’s gone because this runs my life. I didn’t expect to have my appearance destroyed 2 ½ - 3 years ago. I didn’t see this one coming.

My motivation has sunk. I can’t help that, but it has, this whole episode, the many downfalls has done me badly. Just how big is the change!? Can someone confirm I’m not exaggerating here?

The fact that I haven’t used anti-depressant is an achievement in itself, but that means nothing and no one will ever recognise such a silly thing.

That feeling of enjoyment. I have not had that feeling for about 2 years now.

Disappointment with the treatments have taken my depression further.

That’s where I am now, typing this out.

Thing is, minoxidil and finasteride seem to have accelerated my male pattern baldness. I wish I would never have found the treatments sometimes, because I know for a fact, I wouldn’t have hair like I do today. 100% certain.

These days I am confined to a baseball cap because my hair looks embarrassing for someone my age.

I have this mole at the back of my head that now shows through. An ugly mole that was hidden when I had normal (to even half-normal) hair, now my hair has thinned out badly, the white mole shines through like a beacon.

Just a complete nightmare if I’m honest.

Due to not smoking a single f**, in my life, I have smooth skin. Doesn’t matter a jot! Hair-loss has wrecked my appearance, so great skin or not, it’s pointless if it isn’t complemented with half normal (at least) hair. It’s just a waste of time.

Hair loss has left me with a permanent sinking feeling. That’s what I have - a permanent sinking feeling. I don’t feel good about anything anymore. It’s even managed to kill my enjoyment of Arsenal, the soccer/football team I have loved throughout the years. I no longer have the passion I once did. My life was supporting this team and my passion has been killed, and it all stems from 1 thing.

I always wanted to do my utmost to fix this.

The only answer for me is surgery. I feel the only way I am going to be happy is to get surgery. I just want to be myself again. These last 2 years have been a living hell. I’ve been effected and held back so much. The disappointment of these treatments have made it worse. They have only made me worse.

I have about £600 quid saved. That is no where near enough to get a hair transplant. I feel I have no choice but to get one sooner rather then later though.

Well, it’s been long, but that pretty much sums it all up right now.

I'll post new pics in the next few days for what it's worth.
 

Master Chief

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I understand your situation and I hope you recover from it somehow, but your hair is'nt that bad. I think your mind is playing tricks on you, as many have said before, Your hair always looks worse to you than someone else
 

Last blade

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ive had a look at ure pics,and your hair in no way warrants your self destorying rhetoric.Your hair isnt that bad,infact in your shaved head pics if i wudnt even say u 100% had male pattern baldness.However sitting alone and destroying ureself overs something you have imagined is tempting fate.It'll be hard to pick yourself up but your mind is playing tricks on you.Dont let it beat you,especially when your hair looks fine.
 

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Keep your hair short - it really suits u ! good head shape !

I got the same problem uand same hairloss pattern.

I stopped minoxidil like you and freaked out ! Ready forr suicide - I would say same situation like u are now.

I also thought that minoxidil and Propecia done bad things on my head.

Than I shaved my head buzz cut 6mm and shaved my dady to 6mm too and THAT OPENED MY EYES. NOW I KNOW WHERE I'M heading to.
But I feel horrible about that my father is 45 years old and I#m just 20 and by 23-25 i will habe the same hair like him. That makes me sick...why so fast ???

So, I'm on minoxidil again and on Propecia,Innovate, spironolactone 5%,MSM, Arginin, Zinc, Emu oil, Nizoral and I made some progress....

It would be wonderful if I can keep my progress for a while...I'm scared when i reach the 2 years mark with minoxidil...will I lose my hair again ????
 

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For me personally, I remember when hair loss really hit me hard. I felt that I could get a lot of girls etc etc... until one day for some reason it just hit me. I mean I was losing my hair for a couple of years. But just that day, it hit me so hard. After that day, my confidence dropped totally. I thought everyone was staring at me in a bad way. I couldn't go up to girls, cause I felt I was so ugly. But the honest truth, my hair loss was no different from from that day and the days before. It was my attitude that was different and made me become anti-social. I finally forced myself out of that rutt. I think the thing that made me get out of that rutt was knowing that things were going to turn out great for me, but it won't go back to the way it was before. It's going to be a different kind of great. That's what life is all about, it's about progressing and changing. Ofcourse I would want my hair back the way it was, that's why I'm using Rogaine. And honestly, I've been really happy the past 4-5 months. And I'm realizing my hairloss isn't all that bad. My confidence has been up, and I've been getting more looks by girls, with them smiling at me. I guess you gotta think things won't be like they were before your hairloss, but things will get better in other ways.
 

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Gunner: I don't really want to add to your misery but I know how you feel. I think hairloss definetly hits you on a more profound level the younger you are. I mean.. I always knew that one day I was going to go bald. I was fine with that. If I started to go bald at 26 I'd probably passively search out treatments for it and ultimately use Rogaine occassionally. But, balding at 17 was something I wasn't prepared for at all. It's not even so much the deteriotation of my looks that affects me but rather the humiliation of being the only one burdened by this affliction. If I could commisserate with my friends who also shared this mutual ailment then it wouldn't be so bad. Instead, because i'm the only one, it's my great secret, of which I'm in a constant fear will eventually be revealed. The saddest part of it all is enlight of my recent shed I wonder whether I'll even be able to enjoy my high school grad or whether I'll be lurking in the shadows, avoiding eye contact and just praying no one looks twice at my hairline.

Remember Gunner, there is always going to be someone worse off then you, in my case, i just happen to be that person.
 

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hey,
listen im very depressed too, but i (like you and everyone else) have this hope that in only a month or two we'll see good results and itll be good, but when those months come you hope to see some in the next months

i wear a hat all the time too and i hate it, i get checked out by girls all the time but i always have a fuckin hat on so it sux for me

i just started dating this girl i knew in college and she has seen me without a hat on in school for years and now i always wear one and the only time she sees me without one is in bed in the dark. but i just started minoxidil when i started dating her and now that i am goin through this sh*t i am thinking of telling her that i have hypothyroid or whatever and hope that things turn around in the next months

i hate my life as well right now, i dont even go see her b/c i know ill be sleeping over and im scared............ but hopefully we can conquer this together and we can hold it off until a new promising drug comes out

i relate to your post almost identically but you look good with a shaved head and i cant shave mine cuz of a stupid hair transplant that never worked

so if i can do my good deed of the day is to tell you to stick with your regimen and dont get a hair transplant cuz you wont be able to shave your head, EVER!!!!!
dont make the mistake i did,
i wish i never got the hair transplant and i would cut my hair super short and drown my scalp with minoxidil and spironolactone and never notice a hair fall out


good luck brother
wish me luck
 

Mikey

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listen son, your not alone, although i know it may seem that way. I have the same type of hairloss you have. Im a blonde like you with a slightly receeded hairline and thinning all over the top.

At the end of the day, any freind who takes extra confidence in your problem is not a friend worth knowing. I learnt that about one of my so called m8's a few months ago.

If you have £600 saved up and i were in your position, i would put it down as a deposit on a farrel hair system. I know alot of people around this forum don't take kindly to to hair replacement as a means of treatment, but seriousely, these guys can give you leo dicaprios hairstyle back for a few grand.

If my treatments stop working to the feeling where I am as depressed as you I will deffinately be taking the hair replacement route. Noone will be cutting up my head. Just a thought, and hang in there son
 

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This probably won't help any more than a mother teling you that "there are plenty of fish in the sea" after your girlfriend breaks up with you, but here's something that I've been thinking about.

I'm 28, and my hair loss isn't that bad just yet. It came on quick, which is why I am freaking out about it. But my whole pitty party theme is that I am only getting older- I passed my prime, which I swear I was in when I was 25. Anyway, here I am ready to settle down with a girl, find a wife and all that jaz, and I know that every new day means one less hair on my hairline.

So what I want to say is that hopefully there will be a cure by the time you are 25-30, and you will be in YOUR prime, and then all of this will be like a bad dream. Just a different perspective. I mean, there might not be a cure and I could be wrong. Please understand what I am saying, and for this and other more important reasons, don't give up. Try to get out there. I know a balding guy who has a really hot hot girlfriend. It really is all in the attitude, it's just damn near impossible to be positive when you lose someting that is important ot you, right, wrong or indifferent.

Good luck.
 

Jaygee

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I hear you. I know that horrible, crippling feeling, and the frustration with myself for letting it affect me that powerfully. I'm 21. My loss isn't visible when dry yet, but my entire top is thinning and my hairline is now see-through in bright light. I worry a lot about the future, and I'm only able to calm myself down with hope. Not acceptance, but hope. That is, hope that finasteride will work for me. I've been on minoxidil for a year and I don't think it's doing anything, but I'm afraid to stop now in case it's slowing down the rate of loss somewhat. I'm going to start finasteride soon and I can only be optimistic.

I don't know what to do when that depression hits. It doesn't hit me with full force very often, but when it does....oy. You just want to sleep all the time so the pain will stop. Sick, huh? Why are we so preoccupied with the keratin strands growing on top of our heads?

I wish I could say something to make you feel better, but I'm in the same leaky boat. Is it just me or are more younger guys our age losing hair than in years past? I've heard something once to that effect.

All I can say is hang in there. That's all we can do. If no treatments work, we have two choices---acceptance, or caving in and breaking down, becoming a dysfunctional person incapable of leaving bed. We can't let that happen to ourselves. We simply cannot.

Dammit, I like having hair, though.
 

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I'm 31 and started thinning bad at 26 and like you I wear a hat constantly , I mean never never without one .Fortunately I prefer pretty chics with some weight or more to the point girls who have no room to complain or who would drop me because of my hair loss ,so when they see me take off my hat I just pinch them on the *** and smile .I went through the hole depression crap your going through .I was taunted by my sisters kids (the f ing brats!)and on and on .Anyway I've been married for three years to a pretty girl with a big ol' *** but just recently seperated and now I'm looking at hooking up with this big gorgeous looking chic in her late thirties .I'm lucky in that I'm quite alright with having a girl with some physical failing because after all she probably feels the same way about her weight as i do with my hair, don't be shallow to the point of accepting nothing less than a 9 or 10 .The reason I'm saying all this is because you probably are feeling afraid that no chics will want you (atleast I felt that way).Wouldn't hurt to get some happy drug to help you through this judging by you post .
 
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I've just tried to have a conversation with my parents about hair loss.

I started by asking them about the mole on the back of my head.

They said "what mole" then stated that “it’s hardly noticeableâ€.

Total lies. I don't know why they bother. They aren’t helping by lying. I know it's there and that's enough.

When I didn't have my head shaved, it didn't show through.

I then tried to drop hints why my appearance has changed in the last few years. They say I’m paranoid. They just didn’t have a clue. To them, I’m not losing my hair.

It's just a total waste of time me talking to them full blown about hair loss because they will insult my intelligence my insisting that I'm just imagining it.

They couldn't even acknowledge that a mole was there, even though I‘m showing them a picture of it..

It's hopeless.

I've added a few pics to show you what a situation I’m in.
 

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Your new pics dont look any different?Your hair could be alot worse,and then you really would have something to complain about.The mole is hardly noticeable,No one is going to inspect your scalp with a fine tooth comb.Your being ridiculous and it to be honest it really annoys me to see someone with a minor problem at best convince themselves its the end of the world,you have absolutely no comprehension of the true devestation of hair loss,you just seem paranoid,deluded and obsessed.Im sorry but i fail to see how your pics in any way warrant what you've said,but them maybe im blind.as thats the only way to justify your opinion.
 

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To be honest Gunner, with your hair cut that short, your male pattern baldness is hardly noticeable. Your hairline looks like David Beckham's and your front recession looks "distinguished". If I were you, I would count my blessings that your hair color is light and your baldness is not bad. With finasteride, you should be able to maintain this look for a while -- at least until a viable transplant option arises.

Also, to be brutally honest, I think your lamentation and complaining sends bad signals to other people on the board. Your sense of hopelessness and despair has ravaged you as an individual. Indeed, you have more to worry about than male pattern baldness.

Other people on this board, like myself, started balding at the tender age of 17 (and with black hair, the thinning is almost impossible to conceal). But we're tried our damnest best to curtail the effect of genetics. We might succeed for a few years or we might fail, but we did so fighting our asses off. Instead of complaining, we've sought knowledge, both about our condition and about ourselves. As an individual, I have grown tremendously -- from a cocky, full-haired gigolo to a person who now puts more emphasis on personality than aesthetics and to really appreciate people who do the best they can in the environment they are given. And now, I am genuinely happier.

So, to make this sappy sh*t short: Stop whining. Take your finasteride, minoxidil, etc. and then forget about male pattern baldness for the day. Live each day like it's your last; take risks, chase women, get strong, and appreciate your life. And trust me on this one: Women would much rather fall for a balding, well-mannered and intelligent person than a one who is simply narcissistic.

And, stop OCDing about the fuckin' mole on the back of your head. To be honest, I could hardly make it out in your photographs and of course cutting your hair short is going to make it more visible.

D.
 

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hey gooner
I bet even david beckhams hair looks thin when its croped short and under bright lights and he has great hair,so what i am saying is the bright lights and very short hair make you scalp more visable, so make it mach worse then it seems
so try to cheer up
I remember talking to a old girlfriend bout my hair loss and she never new
i was lossing my hair and i had been for years, most girls wont notice as they never go bald they dont think about it, just like most guys dont worry about getting fat, the people who notice you hair loss are mostly other people who are lossing it or are scared that the will lose it
the only people who have teased me about hair loss are other guys with thinning hair

i have been thinning for 8 years and once i got over the shock and got a good hair cut for thin hair and started to be postive again i got layed more then ever
but saying that i still now how you feel, but you got to get over it
I look back at photos 4-5 years ago and i looked great my hair was a bit thin but still good and i was missrible and i bet no girl new i was losing hair they didnt find my attractive becouse i was so unhappy

so chin up
 

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I personally think it doesn't look to bad at all. Your hair looks way better than Freddie Ljundberg and look how many women he gets! You feel upset about having to have a shaved head - things could be worse for you - you could be a goth/metaller and be unable to grow long hair/mullet which is their style. You could be a punk and be unable to grow a mowhawk. These days having a shaved head doesn't mean looking like a criminal. You seem to have the perfectly shaped head for it as well which is a real bonus. But I do accept that not all of us are Vin Diesel and skinheads don't suit everyone, but I think you looked okay.

We just gotta do what we gotta do - i'm fighting the fight on minoxidil (my dermatologist refused to let me use propecia and my folks refuse to help pay for it - if things don't improve I'll go for it anyway). I dunno whether I'll get all my hair back - it would be nice, but I'll still be satisfied if I just keep my haircount and not have to be a true slaphead. I think we just have to concentrate on keeping what we've got for now. Although I think if all my hair grew back totally I would never feel bad again. It would literally be heaven for me. I'd have a permanent grin on my face!

But something really made me feel a lot better for all of us today. There's a guy who's friends with some friends of mine who's about 19 or 20 so maybe a year older than me who's hairloss is REALLY bad - I'm sure much worse than any of us. Pretty much a proper bald patch on top rather than just thinning, and his hairline has pretty much gone. After a while he almost always wore a hat to hide it. He isn't a particularly handsome guy to cancel it out either so he had things bad. But I saw him walking down the street with his fairly new, and very pretty girlfriend - so it's not like she knew him with full hair and has stuck by him - she knew he was balding from the start...

But he had with no hat on at all, and didn't seem bothered. You could see his scalp and everything, but he didn't seem to care It was more a feeling of "good for him" than anything else, that he's just getting on with things. And he looked so confident, and usually he is the total opposite.

But I totally agree with DrunkRum. This terrible, twisted gene has had some positive impact on me despite ruining my life to some extent. I think for many of us it's made us better people in the sense of realising how shallow people can be, and how we are avoiding that. I do wonder sometimes if mbp hadn't affected me how arrogant and childish I could have been. But this helps me look on the inside - it's where the real beauty is, and make sure you're as polite and kind to everyone as possible. Feeling bad about myself has made me always make sure I'm nice enough to other people. And I'm sure most women worth any attention would rather a balding, polite, kind, gentleman to an absolute twat who's pretty in the long term.

But your hairloss really isn't that bad. And be thankful for this website. I dunno what many of us would do without it!
 

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drinkrum said:
Stop whining. Take your finasteride, minoxidil, etc. and then forget about male pattern baldness for the day. Live each day like it's your last; take risks, chase women, get strong, and appreciate your life. And trust me on this one: Women would much rather fall for a balding, well-mannered and intelligent person than a one who is simply narcissistic.

Good stuff!
 

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drinkrum said:
Other people on this board, like myself, started balding at the tender age of 17 (and with black hair, the thinning is almost impossible to conceal). But we're tried our damnest best to curtail the effect of genetics. We might succeed for a few years or we might fail, but we did so fighting our asses off. Instead of complaining, we've sought knowledge, both about our condition and about ourselves. As an individual, I have grown tremendously -- from a cocky, full-haired gigolo to a person who now puts more emphasis on personality than aesthetics and to really appreciate people who do the best they can in the environment they are given. And now, I am genuinely happier.
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Drinkrum: That paragraph expresses my exact sentiments. The only positive that has arised out of this whole disparaging situation is that I am now a genuinely better person. Before male pattern baldness hit me hard, I used to be extremely vain, the type of guy who checks himself out in the mirror 5-6 times a day. I find that instead of looking down on people's inadaquecies I instead sympathize and hope that people don't castigate them because of it.
 
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Gunner, Man u fan myself.

Stop destroying yourself like this. Your hair looks OK. You have nothing to worry about just yet. Your big mistake was stopping finasteride. How many times have I read this!!!!!

My tips for you...

Keep fit and healthy.
Get a tan
Pick yourself up, dust yourself down and get your confidence back. It can be done. Just go out and enjoy yourself with your mates.

Women do go for blokes who are losing there hair believe it or not. This bird is cazy for me so I know. They would also rather talk to a balding bloke who is super confident rather than a bloke with loads of hair and is a total toss pot. But I suppose I have an edge over you. I'm 35 and your still 20 odd. But don't panic. Just chill and enjoy what you have. One day you will look back and say "WTF was I worrying about"


Good luck
 
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