transplant problem

antonio666

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I am defintley getting a transplant in the next year.
I am a norwood 1.5 to 2,with diffuse thinning,now i am going to get about 1000 grafts to make me a norwood 1,i have no problems wit this.
What i do have a problem with is the diffuse thinning,now i would like to thicken this up with grafts but am scared that i will do moree harm than good.

what do you guys think will happen transplanting hair between normal hair?
 
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antonio666,

Yes you run the risk of temporary as well as the potential of permanent shockloss. Are you able to see your scalp in the diffused area? The more diffused your recipient area is, the greater risk of shockloss. I can tell you that many top docs utilize custom blades so the recipient sites that are created, especially between natural hair, are far less invasive than it was in prior times.

Some will also state that the extent of shockloss is lower when one has been on finasteride or even dutasteride for at least six months or more prior to surgery. My clinical observations over the long term however, note that some patients are more suceptible to shockloss than others. It's the difference in how their scalp may respond to the trauma than another.

And remember, once you start surgery, you'll be chasing your hairloss.

There are obviously other factors such as the size of the procedure that affect potential shock and the corresponding degree.

Still, I would not get a hair transplant yet at your stage because yes, you could do more potential harm than good. Try using Toppik or another cosmetic to thicken the area.

BTW, what hairloss meds are you on and what is your family history for male pattern baldness? We would still like to know your age if you don't mind giving it out.
 

antonio666

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thanks for the advice gillonator,

well my hair does not look diffuse in the slightest when dry,my dad thinks i
am insane although he concedes,that it does not look the same as it used to do when wet,much more scalp showing and there lies the problem.

I have always wet my hair as often as i can because i have jet black hair and when wet it used to have a glisen that was like elvis.
Now in my opinion it looks awful when wet but ok dry,i would estimate i have lost about 45% density,but i had stupidly thick head of hair so that is why i can still pull it of dry.1 thing i am going to do is have about 100 grafts at the front.

What are the chances in % of shock loss,i am on avodart,bear in mind any transplant is at least 1 year away
 

Nick4441

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100 grafts will have no effect. if you are only looking at that many then hold off of hair transplant. You should hold off as long as possible now to see results of HM this year. I've been trying to hold off as I really don't want to start having strips taken out..once you have the scar and tigher scalp theres no going back.

Maybe you could go Fue if your loss is small and slow but usually 250 grafts I saw was a minimum.

Thickening diffuse is difficult and worries me greatly too to avoid damaging existing.. you need a good Doctor
 

s.a.f

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Norwood 1.5-2 on a 27 yr old. Wow thats tragic! :roll:
This does not warrant surgey imo. Have you even halted your loss with meds?
 
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You're welcome antonio. You know, I think the toughest thing for the younger men is losing the youthful head of hair we once enjoyed. But that's okay because we are in fact getting older and others do not expect us to maintain this youthful look. So why should we.

Even if you are waiting for another year, I would still try to hold off as long as possible. I mean unless you are planning to keep your head wet, it sounds like you look just fine when it's dry.

Can you tell us about your family history of male pattern baldness? How advanced is the most hairloss based on the Norwood scale?
 

s.a.f

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Sorry antonio for my earlier comment.
But I would strongly advise you not to get a hair transplant this early you may live to regret it. I know that even at a small degree of loss it can be traumatic but imho nobody who is less than nw3 should get a hair transplant and never back to more than NW2 its not worth the risk with limited donor etc. Some of these guys with minimal loss who have gotten hair transplant's at a young age will be heading for trouble later and will look totally unnatural in their older years.
I'd also advise you to listen well to the advice of Gillenator.
 

antonio666

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I understand your original comments,i don't know whay stage of hairloss that you are at but people wha have better heads of hair than me,
i sort of resent them,which i know is wrong,so i can understand if you think my problem is not that bad but to me it is,not so much the hairline as the diffuse
 

CCS

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that is what I was going to say. Topik will fill in the diffuse part. As long as your hair looks gelled, no woman will touch it and find the topik. Dermatch is good too, but would be a pain to apply to thick hair.

Just wait for HM. I was impatient, but now that I have dermmatch, I could easily wait 5 years. My main concern now is not having a low hair line. Dermmatch does not help with that. 1000 grafts is tempting now. But if you already plan to wait a year, then at least look at the HM results.
 
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Yep, and 1,000 grafts will not be noticed much if at all by the lay eye.
 

LookingGood!

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antonio666 said:
I am defintley getting a transplant in the next year.
I am a norwood 1.5 to 2,with diffuse thinning,now i am going to get about 1000 grafts to make me a norwood 1,i have no problems wit this.
What i do have a problem with is the diffuse thinning,now i would like to thicken this up with grafts but am scared that i will do moree harm than good.

what do you guys think will happen transplanting hair between normal hair?

So technically you are not a Norwood 1.5/2 if you are diffuse also. There is no such thing. There isnt even a Norwood 1.5 to be honest. A Norwood with diffuse thinning could be a NW3 and above thinning pattern. I would wait just by the sounds of it.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
that is what I was going to say. Topik will fill in the diffuse part. As long as your hair looks gelled, no woman will touch it and find the topik. Dermatch is good too, but would be a pain to apply to thick hair.

Just wait for HM. I was impatient, but now that I have dermmatch, I could easily wait 5 years. My main concern now is not having a low hair line. Dermmatch does not help with that. 1000 grafts is tempting now. But if you already plan to wait a year, then at least look at the HM results.

CCS,

Why do you keep pushing HM when there is NOTHING out there on it that is concrete? It is not coming out anytime soon. It is nothing more than urban legend that was publicized on these forums at this point. You are selling false hope at this time.
 

s.a.f

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Yeah I'm sure guys have been talking about it since these forums began. Imo we'll all be old men by the time its readily available.
 
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Been hearing people say that HM and/or cloning will be here within five years and I have been listening to that since the 70's. Although there have been more progress made, and more doing the research and trials, still, I would not bet the farm that it will be here anytime soon. I hope I am dead wrong! :hairy:
 

chr1s

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Do you have any pictures perhaps? I'm 25 and you sound a lot like me...I am a nw1 to my knowledge but it IS the diffuse thinning that bugs me. I am like you my hair looks ok when dry but it does not look good wet.. specifically if its pushed back or spiked up wet.. wow it looks disgusting... but if its dry and down no one can tell anything n it looks normal.

I just want to be able to swim at the beach or swimming pool again.. take a shower and not have to worry about my hair... or have someone run their fingers through my hair again.. i used to love all of that and i miss it a lot.

I keep hearing all this sh*t about ben affleck and other guys who get "plugs"(i dont know what that is) or they had hair transplant and their hair looks perfectly fine to me.
 
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