Treatment without Propecia/Finasteride

[Startingtorecede123]

Hey guys whats up.
I am 17 and unfortunately I suffer from this disgraceful thing called male pattern baldness. I have noticed that my hairlines been receding and my hair is falling out a lot, thus, I went to a two docs and both of them told me I have Androgenic Alopecia[my dad is bald, hence its genetic - surprinsingly no one in my family(either from mom either from dads side) is bald]

Both of those docs did not hesitate to put me on propecia and simply said there are not side effects from them(way too much generalising right?).

I am DEFINITELY not going to take propecia/finasteride, even more(less ;P) considering that I am only 17. My beards still growing and my body is not fully developed yet.

Obviously Id like to keep my hair/avoid further loss, nevertheless, I am not willing to pay for it with my health.

To make a long story short.

Does anyone recommend a good/effective treatment without Propecia/Finasteride. A treatment that wont mess up with my hormones?



Thank you very much!



Bear in mind English is not my first language, so if I weren't clear about something just tell me.

 

[frenchy]

you still have minoxidil/ nizoral shampoo which can buy you some time

 

[Toms]

I have the same problem, I am 20, and I fell like my body is just not developed yet. And it sucks, I'm on the line to make the decision about using propecia.

But damnit, how come that guys who haven't still even gotten though puberty start to bald?! Nature has started to **** things up....

 

[zzzzz]

beard growth is barely related to DHT, listen to the docs and just start it.... you are not still developing. If you have male pattern baldness puberty is definitely over

 

[Rudolphus]

OP, you need to think very carefully here. You say your body is still developing. If this is indeed the case, it would not be safe to begin Propecia. Are you absolutely positive that your body is still developing? Maybe you could see a specialist to find out for sure if your body has finished maturing. Anyway, other than finasteride, there isn't really very much else out there at the moment that is able to help with male pattern baldness to any great extent. Nizoral shampoo and minoxidil are better than nothing, but they're not powerful enough to be effective long-term without also using finasteride. Maybe you could check out CB-03-01. It is a new experimental topical anti-androgen which is believed to have no side-effects. There is a lot of reason to anticipate that it will turn out to be the ultimate cure for this disease, especially now that an effective vehicle seems to have been found for it.

beard growth is barely related to DHT

Yes, beard growth is more to do with testosterone, but beard development absolutely depends upon DHT, as do all the other changes that take place during puberty and adolescence.

you are not still developing. If you have male pattern baldness puberty is definitely over

Not necessarily. It is very possible that a person's body can still be developing after the point that male pattern baldness starts. male pattern baldness can start as early as age 13-14 in rare cases.

 

[Spanishlad]

Listen to your doctors advice and dont believe the hype about finasteride sides.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

What actually happens to guys that take it too soon? I have heard many including myself recommend against finasteride at a young age, but I have yet to see any young guys come back and say "I didn't fully develop because of finasteride". Maybe that will be the next wave of anti propecia propaganda.

 

[Startingtorecede123]

@frenchy
Anything else I could use?
By the way, should I use nizoral 2 or 3x times a week?

@zzzz
How come am I not developing, it might not be bone-related anymore, but its a fact that men go through many changes until they are 21.

@Rudolphus, What kind of specialist can I go to to find out if Im fully developed. I mean, isn't the "develop part" related to way too MANNYYYYY things.?

CB-03-01, where can I get it? Unfortunately I don't live in the US, any site that you recommend?
By the way when epople say long-term when related to baldness? How much time does it mean?
Of course I would rather not go to bald but it would be much more acceptable to become bald after 30.

@Spanishlad

Id really love to listen to my doctor and do everything that he says blindly, but I really don't think a 10minutes appointment could help me.
I mean, Everything he told me I already knew. He said basic stuff and said that minoxdll is not important and only finasteride/propecia would be enough to keep my hair forever. Blah..... that doesnt sound very reliable, does it?

 

[Cincinnati Kid]

What actually happens to guys that take it too soon? I have heard many including myself recommend against finasteride at a young age, but I have yet to see any young guys come back and say "I didn't fully develop because of finasteride". Maybe that will be the next wave of anti propecia propaganda.

Yes, but how would they actually know if they didn't fully develop lol? I can't wait to hear someone argue that Propecia is the reason they're 5'7" and not 6'2" haha.

 

[Startingtorecede123]

@Cincinnati Kid
As far as Im concerned, developing is not only related to height. I would say that most people are almost fully grown(heightwise) by 17. However, hormonal changes continue until they are in their 20s.

 

[Startingtorecede123]

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[frenchy]

@frenchy
Anything else I could use?
By the way, should I use nizoral 2 or 3x times a week?

2 or 3 times a week it depends how your scalp feel with it, if it's too harsh you can use another shampoo with ketoconazole like regenepure revita lipogaine...
there is also laser lllt but i'm not sure if it really is efficient.
and there is S5 cream, didn't try it yet, i'm going to give it a shot.
else you can go to the section alternative treatments for supplements(...), it might help but probably no that much.

 

[Startingtorecede123]

Hm... I will try to get S5 cream?

Any specific brand that I should get?

 

[frenchy]

I don't know the brand but there is one for sale on this site

 

[Startingtorecede123]

@Frenchy, ive noticed ur only using minoxdll and S5

Are you keeping your hair? Have you had any regrowth?

 

[Aesthetic]

beard growth is barely related to DHT, listen to the docs and just start it.... you are not still developing. If you have male pattern baldness puberty is definitely over

exactly thats how i knew my development was over

at the very same time i had my first major shed (hundreds of hairs were falling out everyday) that some month /weeks around that time my beard really started to grow and fill in like never b4

i lost hair, but gained a beard

 

[corvidae]

there really isn't any effective enough treatment besides Finasteride. That's just kind of the truth of the situation.
You can use a random assortment of other "weaker" treatments, such as Saw Palmetto extract, topical melatonin, etc etc.
They won't do a whole lot.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

That is the problem. Sure there are weaker options that you can try, but sooner or later your hair loss is going to catch up with you. If your hair loss is moderately to very aggressive you are really setting yourself up for failure. Like I have said many times and will repeat here. Sure our options suck, but none of the guys that take propecia are doing so because they love the taste. We take it because we realize we really don't have any other options, unless you want to take dutasteride. Many people including myself hate to hear this, but that is the reality of the situation.

 

[Rudolphus]

Yeah, realistically speaking it is pretty much Propecia or nothing. Treating male pattern baldness without using Propecia or dutasteride is going to be extremely difficult, especially if you are a very early balder like the OP of this thread, in which case the hair loss is likely to be ultra-aggressive.

Anyway, just to correct some incorrect information in this thread, it is very possible for male pattern baldness to begin before puberty has finished. It would be incorrect to assume that just because male pattern baldness has begun, your body has finished developing.

 

[frenchy]

@Frenchy, ive noticed ur only using minoxdll and S5

Are you keeping your hair? Have you had any regrowth?

minoxidil is slowing the process a lot (but it's loosing its efficacity this year, after 7y of use)... just add S5 so i can't give feed back already!