Turning 30 in 2012 - the End of the World?

Quantum Cat

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I posted this in the suicide thread but I think it got lost amidst all the BBSA trolling, so I'll paste it again:


I felt suicidal at the weekend, but this thread has made me feel a bit better. I'm also currently coming off anti-depressants so that isn't helping.

I know little about hairpeices, but I'm glad to hear that the technology is improving all the time, and that it will always be an option if the loss becomes untenable. Even if I have to borrow money to pay for them.

I turned 30 this year which is a milestone and part of me regrets wasting a lot of my 20s. I'm determined not to do that for my 30s - if I start rapidly balding then so be it.

too many young people are so concerned with their future that they forget to live for today - a cliche, but it really is true. So by the time you reach 50 if you've worked hard you may be pretty well off - have a big house and expensive car, and spent a lot of money and time getting the perfect head of hair through transplants - and all of a sudden you think: 'Holy sh!t I'm 50! what have I done with my life? I was so determined to get the perfect life, but now I have the perfect life I'm too old to really enjoy it.'

that's the mid-life crisis. No matter how much money you have the one thing that NOBODY can buy is their youth back. When you see that obnoxious rich middle-aged business man who looks so smug, I bet you he'd give most of his life savings to be 20 or 30 years younger. Don't be envious of him. He's envious of you.

the most fortunate people are those who are young and wealthy, but sadly for the majority of us that doesn't apply. That's life.

so while I wish I was 20 again, there are 40 year olds who wish they were my age. People keep telling you 'there's always somebody worse off than you' and 'make the most of every day', and you want to punch them. It's much easier said than done, especially if you're depressed.

so assuming the world doesn't end tomorrow, which it might do, but if it doesn't then it should be a reminder to everyone to live every day like it's your last.
 

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I agree, I am 22 and miserable and depressed due to many things, the main thing being hair loss of course.
 

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I think antidepressants can often do more harm than good - not just with obvious side effects but more subtle overarching ones that aren't easy to spot. They don't solve the route cause of the problem, but instead can create a different set of problems

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I just turned 23 and little posts like that remind me not to screw up my youth. Even if it's hard when you're NW5 at my age. It's not an excuse, it is a real handicap.

I've been on and off psychatric drugs and they caused horrible side effects (acne, gyno...) so I don't know how they could help anyone who's depressed, it's been 8 months that I'm off any drug and I've never felt better in my life.

Even if I love my life currently, I'm still limited by my hair loss, I could do so much more with hair. Like UC man, I just want hair, yet it's so difficult and expensive to even partially solve this problem. I'm currently planning the next 3 years, where I'll have a first FUE in february 2013, a second in 2014 and a temporary scalp micropigmentation in 2015. It will cost me 12500€ for the 3 procedures and I have no guarantee that it is going to work. I just hope that I will be at peace by the age of 25. In the meantime, I alternate a shaved head and a buzz cut with dermmatch, it's a good band-aid but I still feel I'm not living my life to the fullest.

I hear you.

the more I read about hair transplants, the less I like the sound of them. They're certainly not the miracle cure some make them out to be. The donor hair doesn't grow back so you're left with bald patches at the back and sides, and unless you get the entire Norwood area transplanted, it's perfectly possible that other areas will succumb to male pattern baldness sooner or later even if you continue to take finasteride, requiring further transplants and more money spent. And you can wind up in a total mess, financially and aesthetically.

unless I win the lottery it's not a route I plan to go down. Hairpieces will have to suffice.
 

HairPieceMan

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I posted this in the suicide thread but I think it got lost amidst all the BBSA trolling, so I'll paste it again:


yes but when that obnoxious 50 year old business man was 25 he was a NW1!

does this apply to us?

not really.

also in your 30s there is still top life in you.

i remember when some guy got height surgery in his early 30s, went from 5 6 to 5 10, and at 36 he met a 26 year old girl at 5 8.

she even said I have no interested in being with a guy shorter than me.

so there is still 100% life in your 30s, as much or even more so, than in your 20s.

be greatfull you are tall fred!

all you need is the hair, I have the hair, now I need the height, but I live in 4.5" lifts to 5 9, one height surgery + 4 " lifts will put me at 5 11!
 

HairPieceMan

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why not try hairpieces, its only £20 a month for a topper, check TopLace.
 

HairPieceMan

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well ok but the hairpiece industry is 10x better than it is now.

well your dad is getting ripped off then, now its only $200 for a topper and that IS high quality and you can make it last 12 months, and with Got2BGlued you get a good hold for about 3 days.

you can go swimming with hairpiece if you use toupee glue, its ok to be windy LOL, yes the colour does fade but only after about 9 months, and you can use back2natural for that but I use fullcap so I don't have to worry about colour fade vs. side hair, you can use a helmet with it, his glue was probably not very good at the time.

the only real positive side was girls? well that's the main thing tbh, who cares about other things.

it is a cheap solution these days, check TopLace, only $200 per topper and last 12 months, great frontlines etc. yes it is high quality!

we are talking about £20 a month max for a topper, the only attachement you use is got2BGlued, the onlt other 2 products are 99% alcohol and scalp protector to clean your scalp, cleanup is 100% easy with Got2BGlued.

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that's only $200 and lasts 12 months.
 

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who is this guy? is that you? or someone that is wearing a hairsystem? if he is, it does very good job to make it look real!
 

HairPieceMan

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well no one man is an expert at the hairpiece industry

he probably uses a local salon in Belgium.

is it lace? or monofiliament?

Got2BGlued is hair spikign gel, it is not toupee glue, its just regular gel for spiking hair, you can use it to attach your system without any cleanup, 10x better than toupee glue which leaves residue.

this is him outdoors

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no it's not me, my hair system looks "ok", not as good as his, but it does the job, what i'm trying to say is that lots of people are wearing hair for little price and it works fine, old days are monofilimanet bases and high density hair with no hairline, these days we have perfect hairlines and is cheap only £20 a momth.
 

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hair systems have got to be more affordable than Transplants, I would have thought. And if anything gets really fukked up you can just rip it off and start again which you can't with a hair transplant. The guy in that pic's hairpiece looks really natural
 

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yes, exactly, it only costs about £20 a month for hair systems, transplants are way more expensive, "strip" transplants leaves scars so you can't even go -sly- bald again even if you wanted to.
 

Quantum Cat

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well the world didn't end. I guess that's a good thing

I wonder how the Ancient Mayans dealt with male pattern baldness
 

HairPieceMan

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My father has been wearing a hairpiece for 30 years and it made his life utterly miserable: not going outside when it's too windy, no swimming (no you cannot swim with it, even real hair are damaged by sea water/chloride), no sports, no summer holidays (because of the heat and the fact that the sun makes the hair color of the hairpiece change), no motorbike riding because of the helmet (and it was one of his passions), constantly in fear of being discovered, countless hours in the bathroom for maintenance. The only positive side is he was able to get girls, and hence marry my mother. Hairpieces will never be a cheap and viable solution. He says that the prices are always the same for good quality hairpiece: about 700-800€. So he spent 50000€ in hairpieces.

My father told me that he cared too much about me to let me go down that route.


I would like to re-assure this forum about the myths of wearing hair, you are like dudemon was.



not going outside when it's too windy:
Yes you can go outside when it is windy, the toupee glue is strong enough to withhold the wind.

no swimming (no you cannot swim with it, even real hair are damaged by sea water/chloride),

yes you can swim as long as you use toupee glue, how do you think elton john or enrique does huge 3+ hour concerts and seats like a pig yet they are fine?

no sports

again, the above idea applies.

no summer holidays (because of the heat and the fact that the sun makes the hair colour of the hairpiece change),

colour fade is OK, this will happen after about 9 months, but you can use back2Natural to re-apply colour to it.

no motorbike riding because of the helmet (and it was one of his passions)

again this is explained as above, elton john doing massive concerts etc, pretty sure your dad could do motorbiking, sounds like he is behind on the times with his attachements etc.

constantly in fear of being discovered

well that is -the only- real valid point to wearing, it is another matter and depends on the person.

countless hours in the bathroom for maintenance.

maintenance for me vs. having natural growing hair is just re-applying Got2BGlued every 24 hours on the perimeter line, takes about 30 seconds each day, it's part of a routine like face wash/cleaning teeth etc.
with Got2BGlued the cleanup is 100% easy so that is why I use it, with ORWG you can get a 76 hour hold but the cleanup is messy so I stick to Got2bGlued.

The only positive side is he was able to get girls, and hence marry my mother.

well there you go then!


Hairpieces will never be a cheap and viable solution. He says that the prices are always the same for good quality hairpiece: about 700-800€. So he spent 50,000€ in hairpieces.

actually a single topper is £200/300€, that is around £15/20€ a month assuming your system lasts 18 months, which many can manage, and you don't even need haircuts, just the one, so that is £5,000/7,500€ for wearing hair for a 30 years (I consider this a lifetime). on £15/20€ a month.

so things are 6x cheaper these days due to making the systems last longer and the systems being cheaper etc.

maybe wearing hair for him was a nightmare, but this is not so these days.
 

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Wearing hair is always a nightmare, few people could handle it. You don't seem to understand the problem with the colour fading. The hairpiece's hairs will eventually have a differently colour from your natural hair at the crown, creating an obvious delimitation between the wig and your real hair. You can't swim with it! It is a myth, even real hair get damaged from the water. It's not about the piece holding, it's about the piece being damaged. Come on, you can't possibly imagine going exercizing with a "helmet" on your scalp, the itch it would create would be unbearable.

Maybe you should educate yourself about how hairpieces are made, maybe then you'll understand why they can't be cheaper than at least 500€ and why they don't last more than 6-9 months.

I'm sorry fred but you are totally ignorant, all your advise is from your father and his trips to his local salons which are ripping him off, like most do.

yes I understand a topper not matching your natural horshoe, that is why I mentioned back2natural, that works 100%, and I have worn hair for 6+ months and experience very little -if any- colour fade anyway.

it's not a freagin' "helmet", ok maybe your dads is, I bet he is using monofilimanent, yester years technology, these days everyone is using LACE which is 100% breathable and see-through, you can easily swim in it and exercise.

how come all these films stars such as william shatner and seen exercising and running and doing big concerts and sweating and stuff, and it is even proven on forums and such yet you still claim to know all about hairpiece yet you have never worn one.

I know how they are made, and yes THEY CAN BE cheaper, go to TopLace, they are cheaper there, even hairdirect has them at that price, sure if you to a saloon but they are charging an upmarket due to the rent of the building and staff members, with TopLace the overhead is small thus the price is very low.

yes, YOU CAN make them last more than 9 months, there was a guy on the TopLace forum that washes and re-attahced his hair DAILY, and had a picture of what his system looked like after 7 months and it was like day 1, and yes this is 7 months of "colour fading" etc. and it looked perfect, that was 7 months of daily washing.


here is your proof

http://toplace.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4316&highlight="For+those+of+you+who+wished"

A few more things to note:
-My system is over 6 months old. (look how great it still looks)
-I shower, shampoo, and BLOW DRY (yes blow dry) daily.
-I exercise daily at the gym (sweat head and all) and although G2BG is loosened (I sweat a LOT) it will not fall off.

the price page

http://www.toplace.com/products/custom-hair-piece.html

$250 + $50 S+H =230 euro Delivered to you're door.

so if he is getting a good 9 months out of a system washing/re-attaching daily then if you do it twice a week, which is what most people do, it will last 18 months, so that's 230/18 = 12 euro a month to wear hair
 

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OK, first question: where do the hairs come from? :) my main point is that it's a huge hassle, it's not sustainable and will lead you to depression. What if one day, you don't have enough money to replace your piece? In a decade, you will have spent what you would have paid for 2 FUE and you will still have no hair on your head.

on the above post,the links show

toplace.com

the price, I j just said was £20 a month.

in a decade I will have spent £1,500 on hair.

I explained all of this on the above post.
 

HairPieceMan

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here's colins before and after picture.

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Before After
 

Quantum Cat

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Mayans actually burned parts of their hair, so in essence male pattern baldness was a sign of beauty.

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What Norwood are you quantum cat?

3-4 I think, but I want to start saving now for when the inevitable happens
 

HairPieceMan

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what do you think the jump from colin was

a 5 to a 9 for example?
 
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