Using AS Testosterone and Proscar?

sl

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Hey guys,

IS there anybody who actually takes AS Testosterone here? How much are you taking? and taking it with Proscar has it had any any affacts on your hair?
 

joeylloyd

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Yes I do periodically.

I will usually take 750mg of test enanthate on cycle with some dbol if bulking. Possibly adding trenbolone later.

When cutting I will use winstrol, stacked with T3/Clenbuterol. Thats an unbelievable combo.

As far as it relates to propecia I don't notice much hair loss on a test cycle taking propecia.
 

sl

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i thought dbol will kill your hair! possibly winny too?
 

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In general dbol and winstrol aren't that great for your hair and I have noticed slight hairloss with them. However if you buy some spironolactone cream with it from minoxidil.com that will reduce the chance of hair loss to very minimal.
Also, I find the slight hair loss that can be lost on cycle is always regrown back afterwards as long as one continues with their combination of finasteride or Avodart and minoxidil.

If taking test I would consider slightly increasing the dose of finasteride/avodart while on cycle.


To talk in more depth about steroid use could you please PM me. This is something of a specialist subject.
 

not me!

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joeylloyd said:
To talk in more depth about steroid use could you please PM me. This is something of a specialist subject.

Don't you mean illegal subject? This is the second thread that I have seen you telling guys to PM you about steroids.
 

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I think most people would want confidentiality on also advice is very specific. Technically half the stuff on this board (about buying finasteride/dutasteride w/o prescriptions etc) is illegal.
 

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not me! said:
joeylloyd said:
To talk in more depth about steroid use could you please PM me. This is something of a specialist subject.

Don't you mean illegal subject? This is the second thread that I have seen you telling guys to PM you about steroids.

It is not illigal. What makes you think its a illigal topic?
 

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Probably its better to use drugs that convert to DHT via 5AR, like test, as opposed to orals that are DHT derivatives ( Var, Primo, ect ). Those DHT derivatives may promote hairloss themselves, and 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride wont stop that.

A topical anti-androgen would also be beneficial if indeed it does what it claims.

Ive run a few oral AAS before ( Var, TBol ). I would say that Var didnt affect my hair much or at all, where as TBol did ( its very similar to DBol except it cant convert to estrogen ). Tbol also seemed to affect my prostate and made my semen different, I think it is more androgenic than Var.
 

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Cheers bro for that.....Have you ever ran Test with Finasteride? What doses of Finaster and Test ? and how was it?

How about like only 50mg ED of Propecia with some Finasteride? Thats only 350mg per week.
 

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Thats a lot of sticking yourself, I would just run 500mg TestE once weekly.

I think you should run 1mg finasteride for every 100mg Test, since thats about how much your body makes in a week.
 

sl

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oh damn, do u think it would be safe to have 4mg of finasteride a day for 6 weeks?
 

Thinning

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Sure, people run 5mg finasteride for prostate problems. Dont buy the 1mg propecia pills, get the 5mg or "research chemicles" variety.
 

Apoc

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Why would you want to take steroids and be worried about hairloss? Either do one thing or another. Even if you take huge amounts of finasteride steroids will always influence it one way or the other. Plus you grow hair on your back which alone makes me not to touch the stuff let alone the problems with liver, kidneys, cancer. Steroids are very similar to the drugs you take for hairloss on the matter that when you stop taking them there is no way you can maintain the gains if you are way over your genetic potential. Genetics catches up with you sooner or later it just depends how much drugs your body can take.
 

Thinning

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Thanks Mom.

Actually steroids mostly have a bad rep from the media. Using steroids ( i.e. not abusing ) is generally recognized to be about as toxic to your body as antibiotics by physicians who use them.

Which is to say, if you run a few cycles over the course of a couple years, you have very small chance of getting any health related issues.

Still, anyone thinking about experimenting with their body this way should get blood work done, pre, and post cycle to make sure things are not getting hosed.
 

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You know as well as I do that a few quickly becomes quite a few. That stuff is damn addictive because you feel like a million bucks when on it and you grow muscle like never before.
 

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Apoc said:
You know as well as I do that a few quickly becomes quite a few. That stuff is damn addictive because you feel like a million bucks when on it and you grow muscle like never before.

WRONG MATE! the drugs themselve are not addcitive. And secondly steroids are not MAGIC Pills or something that you get 'MUSCLE like Never Before'. Theres alot of hard work involved even when using roids. L
 

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Thinning said:
Sure, people run 5mg finasteride for prostate problems. Dont buy the 1mg propecia pills, get the 5mg or "research chemicles" variety.

Thanks Thinning for your advice. I might just go for a small Propecia , Anavar cycle. With some creatine/ whey. My training and diet are all in check.

As for hairloss treatments I might just go with 3mg of finasteride for the 6 weeks cycle. And then go back down to 1mg after cycle. Also continue using the Minoxidil 5% twice a day
 

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That should work good. I would probably run the 3mg for 1 week after last injection in case it takes that long for the excess test to leave your body. finasteride has a very short half life.

Good luck - what length are you running the test 8,10,12 weeks? Probably should only run the Var ~40mg for 4-6 weeks due to liver harshness.

Also it would be a good idea to run an AI like arimidex so you have no chance of getting gyno.
 

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hi guys

recently was running tbol but stopped as my hair began to shed on week 3 , dont think i could have done much damage in less than 3 weeks do you'se?
 
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