Why I Believe Finasteride Will Not Work For

[whatever19]

Hello everyone
I started to lose my hair around 20 years old.I am now 23 and I guess i am around a Norwood level 2.5

The reason i started to lose hair was because i was paranoid that i might lose my hair.So i was actually overstressing on my hair.My father is a Norwood level 5 at 50 years old and he started to lose his hair around his early 30s. I really believe that i fasten the hair losing process

Hence that's why i believe that i am not balding because of a high DHT level but rather due to the sensibility of my hair to the low amount of DHT i might have.I do believe that stress actually increases the sensibility of your hair to DHT
I used finasteride for 3 weeks but decided to stop yesterday.I didnot get any sides apart from maybe a slight loss of libido and loss of morning erection.I did not have any major shed.Nothing major though and i could easily have continued it.
Still i dont think its a good idea to continue since the finasteride might block a large amount of DHT but at the same time it increases the amount of androgen receptors.Hence the small amount of DHT not blocked will still affect my scalp due to the sensitivity of my scalp to DHT

I read lot of stories about people losing more hair while on finasteride and i actually think i might be one of them if i continue to do so.
I will continue to lose hair indeed but i believe that finasteride will just make it faster

For people who used finasteride and didnt have positive results with,did you have high DHT level before starting finasteride
Any insights would be welcome

 

[Norwoodcemetary]

8 months in ...still losing ground and losing hair all over scalp..wen b4 i was just receeding

 

[abovedagame]

If ur hair is miniatirizing then chances r decreasing stress is not gonna stop it.

Good luck whatever u choose to do

 

[abcdefg]

I dont really buy into the idea of stress causing male pattern baldness anymore than masturbating or hats causes male pattern baldness.
I think men, women, and a little common sense perfectly fits with androgens causing male pattern baldness almost by themselves. Women most of the time never go bald, they have no facial/back hair, and they do bald if given lots of androgens. What other evidence do we need? Women are walking proof that high androgens are bad, and high estrogen is good.
Castration prevents male pattern baldness. Also IMO if your hair is sensitive to androgens at all then that sensitivity will forever increase as you get older which is why propecia and things eventually lose effectiveness a lot of times

 

[dralex]

I dont really buy into the idea of stress causing male pattern baldness anymore than masturbating or hats causes male pattern baldness.
I think men, women, and a little common sense perfectly fits with androgens causing male pattern baldness almost by themselves. Women most of the time never go bald, they have no facial/back hair, and they do bald if given lots of androgens. What other evidence do we need? Women are walking proof that high androgens are bad, and high estrogen is good.
Castration prevents male pattern baldness. Also IMO if your hair is sensitive to androgens at all then that sensitivity will forever increase as you get older which is why propecia and things eventually lose effectiveness a lot of times

Hair loss is way too complex. The mechanisms are definitely different in women than men. More is known on male pattern baldness than female pattern baldness. I don't believe it is all related to androgens. I think there is a lot more in play than people think.

 

[FutureSaitama]

Where is the evidence that using finasteride increases the amount of androgen receptors and sensitivity of hair to DHT overtime ? Are there actual studies about this or it's just bro science ?

 

[abcdefg]

Hair loss is way too complex. The mechanisms are definitely different in women than men. More is known on male pattern baldness than female pattern baldness. I don't believe it is all related to androgens. I think there is a lot more in play than people think.

From a prevention stand point is it more complicated? Is the mechanism that different between men and women? Because some women do go bald when they have abnormally high androgen levels just like men, and hormone levels change with age.
Id argue the androgen pathway isnt even fully explored yet. Why is hair sensitive to androgens at all?

 

[abcdefg]

Where is the evidence that using finasteride increases the amount of androgen receptors and sensitivity of hair to DHT overtime ? Are there actual studies about this or it's just bro science ?

There are studies, but I dont think the evidence for this is that solid. I wouldnt consider this factual.

 

[dralex]

From a prevention stand point is it more complicated? Is the mechanism that different between men and women? Because some women do go bald when they have abnormally high androgen levels just like men, and hormone levels change with age.
Id argue the androgen pathway isnt even fully explored yet. Why is hair sensitive to androgens at all?

I would say yes it is. Most of it is androgen related, but treatments are very different for women. Reducing dht levels does less for women than men, and not all men respond to it either. Hair loss is such a mystery, but many people seem to think it is very straightforward...claiming DHT is the root of all problems.

 

[AllerganSaveUs]

DHT is not the only thing making a male lose his hair by a long shot. If it were then finasteride would work in 95-100% of men and not just 60-70% like the statistics show.

 

[arnoldd]

DHT is not the only thing making a male lose his hair by a long shot. If it were then finasteride would work in 95-100% of men and not just 60-70% like the statistics show.

yes dht is the only thing or what else ? it doesnt work for everybody because some man have very high sensibility so even a small dht will make danger to them.

it's all about sensibility to dht. my father is a NW6 at his 60' but at his 30 was NW1/NW2. from my mother's side everybody were completly bald at their 20/22 years old. The same f*****g gene to male pattern baldness but different sensibilities

 

[Pequod]

In about 5 years you will wish you had stayed on finasteride.

 

[AllerganSaveUs]

yes dht is the only thing or what else ? it doesnt work for everybody because some man have very high sensibility so even a small dht will make danger to them.

it's all about sensibility to dht. my father is a NW6 at his 60' but at his 30 was NW1/NW2. from my mother's side everybody were completly bald at their 20/22 years old. The same f*****g gene to male pattern baldness but different sensibilities

If it were only DHT, then people who go on a drug like dutasteride would never have a fast progression of hair loss. Also, why is it that balding men also have a much higher rate of insulin resistance and heart disease? Lastly, there are many differences in a bald scalp and a non bald scalp. Possibly prostaglandins on the GPR44 receptor is a bigger cause than DHT. But that is just a current popular hypothesis it could always be some other prostaglandin or a different factor in general.