I agree with you on the first, this should be moved to the alternative section.
I know that there are, but for completely different reasons. Regarding skimming the book: Some chapters I read (most are not very long anyway), others I skimmed, yes. But the things in quotation marks in my last post were directly cited from the book and some things are just completely wrong, such as "positive = infection, negative = healing".
The thing is that Tesla never made any claims about a "violet ray" and never actually invented the violet ray. The argumentation of the quackies is "in our device, we use Tesla coils, an invention of Tesla, thus Tesla invented the violet ray". Yeah, great. I can also build a tesla coil into my table and call it "Violet Table". Does not mean that my table will from now on heal anything or that the Violet Table was invented by Tesla. In fact, raw tesla coils are also used in early x-ray devices. Nobody ever claimed that these healed anything.
Yes, it actually does. Just because you don't understand it does not mean it does not.Sparx4444 said:
I tried to explain to you the issue of contraindicators, but as I have feared, you did not comprehend it.Sparx4444 said:
You got it quite wrong. I say anything "WITH ABSOLUTION" that can be proven or disproven, such as the following claims made by you and Youcandoit in this thread:Sparx4444 said:
You said the following things:Sparx4444 said:
I completely agree with you on that. And I have stated that in this thread a couple of times by now.youngn said:
Yeah, you are so good at this "scientific method" thing. There is a difference between things that can neither be proven or disproven at a point in time (s. hand-washing example). Dismissing those is stupid. Then there are things that can be disproven, such as:Sparx4444 said:
You are still incapable of actually bringing arguments to the table. You still have to resort to personal insults. Awesome. If you're interested in what I'm doing, I wrote it in one of my first posts on these forums here. You will probably not like it, though, because then you would hate science even more.Sparx4444 said:
Exactly.
How often do I have to post Wikipedia till you understand that there is no law of physics that allows for conversion of electrical to mechanical energy in your scalp?
My B.Sc.'s minor was physics.
Oh, the reputation points given to my posts in this thread say otherwise. Should I post a screenshot of them?
Yes, it can be and was explained by scientific method. Unless, of course, you say that Harvard scientists don't know about scientific methodology.
I never claimed that hairloss was understood to absolution. If it was, we would have a treatment by now. However, that has nothing to do with the VR. The VR - or at least all the theories in this thread trying to explain how it works - are contradictory to basic science.
High-school grade physics is "scientific mumbo jumbo" to you? How sad.
No. They are not completely different reasons. I read the book... you obviously did not.
From all accounts I have read, Tesla and Paul Oudin designed the first device together and it was presented at the Worlds Fair in 1893 in Tesla's display. If you have proof otherwise then present it. Edit: And this seems pretty convincing to me: http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/no_date.htm
Hopefully no one has to explain to you how electrical or magnetic energy can be turned into mechanical energy or vice-versa.
To be fair, it sure can control that circulation: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/11/1/78.full.pdf
I don't think any Doctor would disagree that hair loss can occur from hypothyroidism.
Yeah, now that you're asked to actually prove your statements, you back out again. Same thing all over.
I know that and I am not disputing that. Especially in the life sciences there are many contradictions. It is just that the theories presented in this thread are not even arguably right or wrong. They have been proven to be wrong.youngn said:
This text is about "mechanical therapy", i.e. a mechanical (not an electrical) oscilator and not the "violet ray device". Did you actually read your link?youngn said:
I hope you are aware that the words enclosed in the quotation marks are not my own. That conversion was just one of the bullsh*t theories presented in this thread. And while I know of the possible conversions, I hope you know that none of them apply on our scalp.youngn said:
Yeah, great. Hypothyroidism. Not what the advocate of psychic readings was talking about.youngn said:
Did you notice that word "androgenetic" at the beginning of the sentence? I also don't know if you noticed that we are dealing with androgenetic alopecia in these forums and not hypothyroidism-induced hairloss.youngn said:
Psychic readings channeling information about the Dead Sea scrolls. Awesome. And one more, because it's so funny:Youcandoit said:
Yes, according to the initiator of this thread, the secret knowledge about the violet ray was conceived in "trance meditative state".Youcandoit said:
I hope you understand why this statement is wrong. If not, please read Wikipedia.Sparx4444 said:
It's quite obvious you aren't reading anything I linked. The first part of his article was talking specifically about the effects of "ELECTRICAL THERAPY", and his conversation with D'Arsonval. Google D'Arsonval and see what device he is popular for making. :wow:
Yes. I am aware. I did not read the whole thread so I don't know what you are referring to with electrical vibrations. But the whole universe certainly has an electrical side. Even the earth resonates at a specific frequency. This is not unproven science.
Maybe this is just a matter of wording. Maybe they meant male pattern baldness. To be so literal then you would say that androgenetic alopecia is ONLY controlled by androgens. So when you cut off your balls all your hair should grow back, or everyone that takes finasteride will never lose hair. But that's just not the case. There's much more to it. You are just being to literal with wording. I do not want to debate about this, I am just making a point.
I do.
I don't put anything down until its proven because I believe the words "conspiracy theory" were invented to make people who question the government look bat **** crazy. That being said, the statements sounds far fetched.
I am not sure what some people have against Homeopathy. There are shills in every industry... even doctors. I looked up atomidine. I have never seen it, but using an open mind I can say that certainly it could have had an effect. Do you know how a violet ray effects skin? I don't think anyone exactly knows, but lets for a minute hypothesize that it can work like iontophoresis. Then we would be pushing iodine through the skin into an affected area which is a great disinfectant among other things. Not to mention most people are iodine deficient. Can you disprove that it doesn't work? Have you tried it? Much of ancient medicine and homeopathy have been proven by science anyway.
I think you are just arguing over wording again. Cause obviously electrical energy can be turned to mechanical energy through your body.
I don't believe in the generalized psychic readings, but the brief research I've done on Edgar Cayce I could make a guess at what was going on:
Have you ever solved a problem in your sleep? Have you seen the studies where scientists were able to solve advanced equations after taking LSD? Have you read experiences of people who took DMT? Obviously there's things our brain does that science cannot explain. Maybe Cayce was able to access a higher level of thinking when sleeping. Does that mean he was right about everything? NO. But I am not going to disregard everything he said without valid proof.
I actually read the whole thing before replying. But Tesla only refers to his talk with D'Arsonval in it and not to the principles. The only substantial statements are made about mechanical therapy; electrical therapy is only a sidenote and a very small part of the text. And, by the way, electrical therapy does not equal violet ray. Many of Tesla's findings in electrical therapy are completely valid. The violet ray as such was not an invention of Tesla - something I have also covered earlier in this thread. But the companies selling the VR often claim it is Tesla's invention, while it is just a small tesla coil and nothing else.
Oh, you should read it then. It's entertaining. You will read how the moon has a negative influence on electrical energy and other fun stuff and how the planet venus provides "female energy".
Firstly, even if you replace "androgenetic alopecia" with "male pattern baldness" in that statement, it still holds. Now you are the one arguing over wording. Male pattern baldness is not a consequence of thyroid deficiency. Secondly, even if androgenetic alopecia was controlled only by androgens, this would not mean that you grow your hair back by cutting your balls off. The miniaturization effect and perifollicular fibrisos is not reversible through lowering your DHT levels - otherwise, you could also achieve full regrowth with finasteride, which you cannot.
So arguing over wording again. Even if you don't call it a conspiracy theory, it is just as unproven as anything else Youcandoit came up with "explaining" the violet ray.
The point is the homeopathic aspect of atomidine, not iodine. Atomidine solutions are prepared by putting one drop of iodine for 2 days, then letting the solution rest for two days. Then put a drop into it for three days, then rest for three days. According to the logic of homeopathy, the lower the concentration of an agent in a solution, the stronger the effect of a solution. They call it "purification". And that is purified bullsh*t. Another heomeopathic concept is that everything that has identical symptoms can be treated with something that would create the same symptoms in a healthy person. That is pure charlatanry.
But not by letting an electrical current flow through your skin, which was claimed. If its turned into mechanical energy, then by muscles.
Cayce had no scientific education whatsoever. And per "disregarding everything he said without valid proof": Great, why dont we check everything any psychic says? I mean, it cant be disproven when a psychic says that there are small negative energy charges in your hair created by the pink invisible unicorn. So how about we follow that trail?
I have a problem with blindly following psychics and esoterics "because they cant be disproven". What is the reason that we should follow a psychic? What makes his points, which are founded on nothing, worth pursuing? Why are they viable to be tried? Given that reasoning, anything any psychic says is a valid potential treatment. I say we get all the psychics from the mental hospitals and ask them how to cure diseases. Their points are as valid as Edgar Cayce's, aren't they?
No, it does not depend on what you consider homeopathy. Plants are not homeopathy. Homeopathy consists of two main principles:youngn said:
