Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[Jimm]

I hope nobody is sitting here refreshing the page in the hope that Clockwise will provide incredible news, let us be realistic. I appreciate that guy though, he has provided a lot of info for us.

I concur. I think Clockwise was nice to provide what he has. However, I think if Brotzu's response is that we're just being nit-picky or ignorant by critiquing that presentation so intensely, this really is a wash. Time to go devote the time spent here to something with a higher rate of return--pleasuring myself into oblivion, probably. I do hope this thread is eventually closed and passes into the dark depths of time without a modicum of sympathy to keep it warm.

In due time, I'll eventually wake up and have a full head of hair and a scientist's face tattooed on my back tramp-stamp style to help inaugurate the person who solves this dreadful dilemma into a blissful eternity of praise.

 

[se8]

Thanks Clockwise!

What a joke! More bullshit and no pictures to show...

But we will see pictures during "the marketing period". That's all what this lotion is about: selling a scam product.

 

[vegetassj]

0,1% chance this is a maintenance lotion and with minoxidil should be good.

99,9% chance this is scam. Cuz their evidence was stable hair after 6 month from a 60 year old grandpa.

 

[se8]

If you had a successful product for hairloss, you would have proofs (pictures). The results would speak for themselves. Here we just have words (= scam).

 

[Dinnosaur]

Sorry for the delay, but as a student you sometimes need to work on the weekends...

G. Brotzu says that the statistics has been missunderstood. The hairgrow for the testers after 6 months is 11% (I don't know if that's a good or bad number, because I have no idea who the testers are and their backgrounds or if it's the testers that we saw yeasterday... but he said that the results are the same for male and female).

There will not come any new/updated data with results from testers who has been using the lotion for longer then six months. (I said that something people want to see). The respond was: "For us all this tests are enough."

I responded: "How come? People are reffering to the five years claim and want to see something like that." The answer I got was: "The people who use minoxidil and finisteride gives hart desise and hormonal problems" (That made me think: was this test more to examine any possible side effect according to the amount of the lotion that was used?"). He then said: "The five years of claims are me and two of my friends. Obviously is not possible use this data. All of us have restore only a few years of hair bald. Actually we do not loose hair. This is the perfect product for younger baldness, and to help the transplant to create a good vascular base."

I responded: "A few years, is it like 1,2...5?" The answer I was given was: "Near five".

My latest question was about maintenance. The answer: "Perfect. Is better use for two months the lotion daily, after is enough to use the lotion 2/3 days a week. We have 5 years of experience. During this period, we have not seen any sides or decrease in effectiveness."

Me: "People want evidence. More pictures!" The answer: "I suppose that Fidia will use the pictures during the marketing period." He couldn't tell me when that periods will begin because "We developed the lotion. We do not make marketing decsions".

That's all I got for now.

This is what @yulley was talking about

 

[irishlad8787]

as i said a week ago same as samumed approx10% hair growth which will not give an aesthetic improvement

 

[NW2.5372846]

Just LOL @ Everyone here who thought this was going to help regrow NW9 to 0. Delusional thinking tbh... it's maintainance without sides (i.e. Min/finasteride without sides), and that is good enough for me. That's all it was hyped up to be anyway. Which is Positive IMO!

 

[Jimm]

Sorry for the delay, but as a student you sometimes need to work on the weekends...

G. Brotzu says that the statistics has been missunderstood. The hairgrow for the testers after 6 months is 11% (I don't know if that's a good or bad number, because I have no idea who the testers are and their backgrounds or if it's the testers that we saw yeasterday... but he said that the results are the same for male and female).

There will not come any new/updated data with results from testers who has been using the lotion for longer then six months. (I said that something people want to see). The respond was: "For us all this tests are enough."

I responded: "How come? People are reffering to the five years claim and want to see something like that." The answer I got was: "The people who use minoxidil and finisteride gives hart desise and hormonal problems" (That made me think: was this test more to examine any possible side effect according to the amount of the lotion that was used?"). He then said: "The five years of claims are me and two of my friends. Obviously is not possible use this data. All of us have restore only a few years of hair bald. Actually we do not loose hair. This is the perfect product for younger baldness, and to help the transplant to create a good vascular base."

I responded: "A few years, is it like 1,2...5?" The answer I was given was: "Near five".

My latest question was about maintenance. The answer: "Perfect. Is better use for two months the lotion daily, after is enough to use the lotion 2/3 days a week. We have 5 years of experience. During this period, we have not seen any sides or decrease in effectiveness."

Me: "People want evidence. More pictures!" The answer: "I suppose that Fidia will use the pictures during the marketing period." He couldn't tell me when that periods will begin because "We developed the lotion. We do not make marketing decsions".

That's all I got for now.

Someone please call me when Fidia wakes up from their sempiternal torpor. It'd be nice to finally come out of this hypnogogic limbo that we've all been residing in since they made their last official statement.

Thanks, Clockwise. You can take pride in knowing you were one of the only appreciated contributors to this thread-----second only to @Georgie.

 

[fuDHTck]

as i said a week ago same as samumed approx10% hair growth which will not give an aesthetic improvement

I am sure it would

 

[se8]

Just LOL @ Everyone here who thought this was going to help regrow NW9 to 0. Delusional thinking tbh... it's maintainance without sides (i.e. Min/finasteride without sides), and that is good enough for me. That's all it was hyped up to be anyway. Which is Positive IMO!

It's not even maintenance, this sh*t just does nothing.

 

[NW2.5372846]

It's not even maintenance, this sh*t just does nothing.

On what do you base that conclusion?

 

[irishlad8787]

I am sure it would

dont think so man, its been said that you only know you are thinning when 50% of the hair has gone in that area.

 

[PuffyPink]

The BS in this thread is hard to believe.

What did everyone expect? A Norwood 5 becoming a Norwood 1? After 6(!!!) months of nonclinical trials. Neither the brotzus nor fidia claimed that.

The problem is, that everyone is way to emotional about hairloss. To be seen in the fact, that we got more then 200 new pages in 2 weeks.

They didn’t show nothing, didn’t promote anything on social media or something like that, they made no false claims and they didn’t throw a product on the market at the peak of the hype to sell as many as possible.

It is the opposite...if the results in the presentation are true (actually I doubt it but we can’t proof this now) it would be huge because they claimed that they stopped hairloss without sides and we don’t know whether there will be (more) regrowhth after more months of use.

Of course there are things that smell fishy... Why no tricho? Why did they use the p value that you can just calculate in a trial with more then 100 patients? Why did they use subjectiv parameters instead of objective?

But in the end from what we know now, nothing has changed compared to yesterday morning.

The point I want to make is...try to stay objective. Stop searching for excuses why the old man didn’t recover 3 NWs. Stop hating, crying and screaming that this is a scam. Stop seeing the rescue of your life in the brotion.


Just wait and we will see what is going to happen.

 

[Dinnosaur]

as i said a week ago same as samumed approx10% hair growth which will not give an aesthetic improvement

Why wouldn't it unless your a Norwood 6. Any improvement is worth of improvement

 

[se8]

On what do you base that conclusion?

They are on this stuff since 2012, yet they can't provide a single case study that shows maintenance or regrowth.

 

[Min0]

Sorry for the delay, but as a student you sometimes need to work on the weekends...

G. Brotzu says that the statistics has been missunderstood. The hairgrow for the testers after 6 months is 11% (I don't know if that's a good or bad number, because I have no idea who the testers are and their backgrounds or if it's the testers that we saw yeasterday... but he said that the results are the same for male and female).

There will not come any new/updated data with results from testers who has been using the lotion for longer then six months. (I said that something people want to see). The respond was: "For us all this tests are enough."

I responded: "How come? People are reffering to the five years claim and want to see something like that." The answer I got was: "The people who use minoxidil and finisteride gives hart desise and hormonal problems" (That made me think: was this test more to examine any possible side effect according to the amount of the lotion that was used?"). He then said: "The five years of claims are me and two of my friends. Obviously is not possible use this data. All of us have restore only a few years of hair bald. Actually we do not loose hair. This is the perfect product for younger baldness, and to help the transplant to create a good vascular base."

I responded: "A few years, is it like 1,2...5?" The answer I was given was: "Near five".

My latest question was about maintenance. The answer: "Perfect. Is better use for two months the lotion daily, after is enough to use the lotion 2/3 days a week. We have 5 years of experience. During this period, we have not seen any sides or decrease in effectiveness."

Me: "People want evidence. More pictures!" The answer: "I suppose that Fidia will use the pictures during the marketing period." He couldn't tell me when that periods will begin because "We developed the lotion. We do not make marketing decsions".

That's all I got for now.

inb4 angry +NW3 who think a maintenance lotion will kill the regrowth research.
a maintenance drug/lotion will always be needed to maintain hair transplants (even with cloned follicles)
so calm the f*** down you brainless retards.

 

[NW2.5372846]

They are on this stuff since 2012, yet they can't provide a single case study that shows maintenance or regrowth.

Lol, yes they did. You're just trolling my friend

 

[se8]

Lol, yes they did. You're just trolling my friend

6 months of nonclinical trials is useless.

 

[worm]

Sorry for the delay, but as a student you sometimes need to work on the weekends...

G. Brotzu says that the statistics has been missunderstood. The hairgrow for the testers after 6 months is 11% (I don't know if that's a good or bad number, because I have no idea who the testers are and their backgrounds or if it's the testers that we saw yeasterday... but he said that the results are the same for male and female).

There will not come any new/updated data with results from testers who has been using the lotion for longer then six months. (I said that something people want to see). The respond was: "For us all this tests are enough."

I responded: "How come? People are reffering to the five years claim and want to see something like that." The answer I got was: "The people who use minoxidil and finisteride gives hart desise and hormonal problems" (That made me think: was this test more to examine any possible side effect according to the amount of the lotion that was used?"). He then said: "The five years of claims are me and two of my friends. Obviously is not possible use this data. All of us have restore only a few years of hair bald. Actually we do not loose hair. This is the perfect product for younger baldness, and to help the transplant to create a good vascular base."

I responded: "A few years, is it like 1,2...5?" The answer I was given was: "Near five".

My latest question was about maintenance. The answer: "Perfect. Is better use for two months the lotion daily, after is enough to use the lotion 2/3 days a week. We have 5 years of experience. During this period, we have not seen any sides or decrease in effectiveness."

Me: "People want evidence. More pictures!" The answer: "I suppose that Fidia will use the pictures during the marketing period." He couldn't tell me when that periods will begin because "We developed the lotion. We do not make marketing decsions".

That's all I got for now.

Thank you @Clockwise -

Based on Wuwei and this francesca woman, I am inclined to believe this is legit. I appreciate @beps63 posts, he is obviously here to help.

I think the frustration is coming from a lack of pictures, especially those of people who are closer to most of the users here (in their 20's). Also, there is no information coming from Fidia at all. Just an inkling of an official idea as to when we can expect this to come out would be better than nothing.

I think that's mostly why people are calling BS, because it's all hype and only scraps thrown our way for over 2 years now.

 

[Bigbone]

Just LOL @ Everyone here who thought this was going to help regrow NW9 to 0. Delusional thinking tbh... it's maintainance without sides (i.e. Min/finasteride without sides), and that is good enough for me. That's all it was hyped up to be anyway. Which is Positive IMO!

Like I wrote earlier, you guys make it sound like maintenance is the easy part, when it's not.