Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[Notreallyhere]

@NW4Santa has been dermarolling with minoxidil for 6 months and there's no improvement.
1.5 mm first every 3 days for a couple of months, then every week thr next 2 months and then every 10 days.
So either he did something different or yeah, it just doesn't work for everyone

Is he using a roller or pen i reckon rollers dont work unless a second person is doing it to subject mercilessly with pens the automation makes the depth punching pressure decisions not to mention repetitions and straight in straight out

 

[Notreallyhere]

@NW4Santa has been dermarolling with minoxidil for 6 months and there's no improvement.
1.5 mm first every 3 days for a couple of months, then every week thr next 2 months and then every 10 days.
So either he did something different or yeah, it just doesn't work for everyone

lol every 3 days with a roller at 1.5 wouldnt that be scar city and hurt like f***

 

[hairloss_user]

Wonder if he used one of those 540 needle rollers. That's the first one I bought. Total crap. People should just try with a pen.

 

[Notreallyhere]

Wonder if he used one of those 540 needle rollers. That's the first one I bought. Total crap. People should just try with a pen.

if rollers were all we had i wouldn't be trying this lol derminator 2mm on fast 1 out of 10 pain 1.5mm roller used on stretch marks was 6 out of 10 i quit after 3 rolls

 

[Notreallyhere]

Wonder if he used one of those 540 needle rollers. That's the first one I bought. Total crap. People should just try with a pen.

are they not just throwing stars lol

 

[CuredMouse]

On week 2. The vellus hair that's been outlining my former hairline finally disappeared last month, I can feel it again and my hair feels healthier, I've had no decrease in shedding though which is unfortunate, my sessions have been pretty bad though, red all over but not many blood spots and hardly any pain at 1.5mm. Hopefully the fibrosis clears soon and I can I can start getting more effective sessions, tomorrow will be my 3rd so well see.

 

[Wergi]

While I agree microneedling is a major component for some people this is not enough, On a dead area to induce hair growth you need something more. Is Acute wounding enough for new hair growth?

 

[infinitepain]

Thanks for answering, cratus.
Hey @MKP05, here you have someone on a similar situation. Shoot your questions if you will! I personally don't know the answer as to why needling alone would cause a shed.

Hey bud.
I do bi-monthly sessions. The depth used in the study doing it bi-monthly (not bi-weekly, maybe that's what you meant... happens to me too, haha) ranged from 1.5-2.5 mm, so anywhere between that is a good option as it will wound. 2 mm was my choice.

Exactly, but as you said, such a frequency will only be used for topical absorption. I see where you're coming from, but Somebody isn't a good example of proper wounding.

Of course, in my post about microneedling FAQs I state that there's no such thing as a single perfect depth and frequency (just in case you haven't seen it: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...cedures-studies-and-such.119653/#post-1750957)

I already told you. PrettyFly83 from baldtruthtaIk and 2young2retire got fantastic results. PrettyFly used Minoxidil, but no antiandrogens IRRC, and 2young started with Minoxidil but dropped it within a month, no antiandrogens. This was 5 years ago, about to be 6. He came around a couple of months ago or so and posted a pic, he still had those results (I didn't see the pics as they were taken down, but other users did). Look up "2young2retire mastering the potential cure" (can't link it because his pics were the reason the first microneedling thread was closed and the DIY discussion banned).

I can bring you PrettyFly though: View attachment 109178
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There are more. Look up his name + baldtruthtaIk to see them.
It's also worth mentioning that he was the only person in that thread who stuck with it. He didn't see results until the 18th month. The rest mostly bitched and moaned about it not working and called PrettyFly a liar (going as far as to say he had a transplant and was there to make fun of them, HAHAHA... f*****g hair loss forums) after dropping it in a matter of a few months.

There isn't. But the mechanism of the pen provides a more precise, consistent wounding. I agree with you, results have been seen with a dermaroller, but a pen is often more comfortable for people (some people have reported their redness has stayed for longer after trying a pen vs dermaroller and had their scalp feel alive, which didn't happen with the roller). That's also covered in the FAQs post. As for the tearing, 2young is an example of regrowth doing extreme rolling with a roller, but I'm not sure about the science behind it.

There are people who've had an initial shed even when they're not on Minoxidil, but there are also people who have reported less oily skin and no more itching and shedding after they started rolling. I am among them (no Minoxidil). The shed, however, subsides after some time. For how long were the people you've seen doing it?

There are many unanswered questions indeed, which is partly why we're here everyday.

I hope those Dutasteride injections coupled with needling work for ya, man. Best of luck.

Yes, I meant bi monthly.

Do you use 12 nail cartridges, if so why above 9 or a single nail?

Do you know which would be the best site to get the best deals if you are in Europe? I don't want to pay extra taxes on some nails, then it would start getting too expensive. If it's done bi monthly I would need 24 cartridges.

Also what do you think about this execution:

Is doing it with wet a good idea? I guess it makes it easier to see the scalp if you have good density, however wouldn't it increase % of infection?

When I do it, I will afterwards clean the scalp with cold water to reduce inflammation and get rid of bloody spots, then I will also use the dryer in cold air mode to get rid of the wetness, the problem is, will it hurt like a mofo putting air when you just pierced it?

What I do know is I want to clean it and i want to dry it, and I dont see using a towel, so the best idea I can think of is dryier in cold mode to push the water away.

Im also a bit paranoid about mold which is seen in some bathrooms in the shower area, generally in the bathroom, but where else would I do this anyway.

 

[infinitepain]

Hi,
I think it's going well. Since I've been using a proper derma-roller I feel the minoxidil is really getting absorbed now. I use the 1.5 every night before applying minoxidil liquid. I use the 2.0mm on Friday nights and leave it till the next day to apply minoxidil. My hair, when dry, is looking a lot better but is still very thin under harsh lighting. I will take some new pics soon and post on my thread. I've recently ordered some biotin tablets so hopefully that will help to thicken up regrowth. Overall, I'm happy with my regimen. I'm following pretty much what @Somebody was doing. I feel that minoxidil is doing the heavy lifting of giving regrowth; the derma-rolling is aiding absorption; daily finasteride keeps DHT at bay and some good shampoos also help with that and to keep scalp free of inflammation.

How deep are you rolling with that 1.5? I just can't fathom how some people do it daily. I have never done it but I expect pain and increased inflammation from doing this. How is it sane to chronically inflamme the scalp if we are trying to get rid of that since DHT is pro inflammation the scalp?

And also can't see how in the f*ck anyone that just wounded himself would tolerate putting alcoholic solutions of minoxidil on the wounds. Doesn't it burn like a mofo?

 

[Notreallyhere]

Yes, I meant bi monthly.

Do you use 12 nail cartridges, if so why above 9 or a single nail?

Do you know which would be the best site to get the best deals if you are in Europe? I don't want to pay extra taxes on some nails, then it would start getting too expensive. If it's done bi monthly I would need 24 cartridges.

Also what do you think about this execution:

Is doing it with wet a good idea? I guess it makes it easier to see the scalp if you have good density, however wouldn't it increase % of infection?

When I do it, I will afterwards clean the scalp with cold water to reduce inflammation and get rid of bloody spots, then I will also use the dryer in cold air mode to get rid of the wetness, the problem is, will it hurt like a mofo putting air when you just pierced it?

What I do know is I want to clean it and i want to dry it, and I dont see using a towel, so the best idea I can think of is dryier in cold mode to push the water away.

Im also a bit paranoid about mold which is seen in some bathrooms in the shower area, generally in the bathroom, but where else would I do this anyway.

i spray wet my head with 1l 70% achol bottle from ebay i swear it makes me light headed it drys quick dont interfere or sting

 

[Notreallyhere]

How deep are you rolling with that 1.5? I just can't fathom how some people do it daily. I have never done it but I expect pain and increased inflammation from doing this. How is it sane to chronically inflamme the scalp if we are trying to get rid of that since DHT is pro inflammation the scalp?

And also can't see how in the f*ck anyone that just wounded himself would tolerate putting alcoholic solutions of minoxidil on the wounds. Doesn't it burn like a mofo?

i minoxidil right after im not gana lie i home alone after shave moment every time but it tappers of after 5 seconds or so its worse than the needling but short

 

[Noahwiththelongthinhair]

Damn here I been wounding my scalp till I see blood spots all over and I'm only supposed to do it till the skin turns red, fml

 

[Notreallyhere]

Damn here I been wounding my scalp till I see blood spots all over and I'm only supposed to do it till the skin turns red, fml

Damn here I been wounding my scalp till I see blood spots all over and I'm only supposed to do it till the skin turns red, fml

no one knows for sure whats needed if only there was a company founded a decade ago who could of been working this stuff out by now

 

[infinitepain]

Damn here I been wounding my scalp till I see blood spots all over and I'm only supposed to do it till the skin turns red, fml

Apparently from what I was just told a page ago, there are good results with both:

1) Deeper wounding (1.5mm+) bi monthly

and

2) Less deep but daily usage (@Somebody claims to do it daily and then apply minoxidil short after, uses 1.5mm roller but he says he doesn't go deep)

So my take is, 1)'s good results is due the whatever-growth-factors being triggered while 2) is due increased minoxidil absorption? assuming less than 1.5mm doesn't trigger growth factor stuff..

In any case I need to find something quick, my f*****g temples are lossing density like hell these days and i also feel so horny, I think on a DHT peak, I will get bloodworks soon. If the dutasteride injections don't do much I may go full oral route. If that doesn't help as well as the dermapen I guess it's over.

 

[layabout]

lmao did you guys see the e-store site that @74775446 made? He's claiming he founded his own new treatment called "trichostimulation" that has been clinically proven to be superior to minoxidil and finasteride:
https://myhair.life/



selling his own branded dermapen and some vague hair growth serum as a monthly subscription sort of deal haha

@Bill_Russo
@ZenHead
@hairloss_user
@cratusg
@MinervaCGI

he accomplished regrowth with minoxidil+derma yet he's selling a follicle growth serum with his kit and fails to mention minoxidil as part of his process, except that he took it "before" without effect:

https://myhair.life/pages/method

Also, you seriously couldn't come up with anything more creative than My Hair?

 

[overpourgoodfortune]

lmao DID YOU GUYS SEE THE WEBSITE THAT @74775446 MADE? HE'S LITERALLY CLAIMING HE FOUNDED A NEW TREATMENT LOL he calls it trichostimulation:

https://myhair.life/

Hmmmm. When I grow all my hair back I'm going to start a rival site featuring Quadrostimulation. I'll name it:

https://yourhairisnot.dead

Seriously though... it was discussed earlier in the thread, Re: his Amazon affiliate links. I'm not against someone making money off a life event like this, but sadly as it was said before it makes things all the more suspicious to people even if it is true/honest.

 

[sportsguy97]

lmao did you guys see the e-store site that @74775446 made? He's claiming he founded his own new treatment called "trichostimulation" that has been clinically proven to be superior to minoxidil and finasteride:
https://myhair.life/



selling his own branded dermapen and some vague hair growth serum as a monthly subscription sort of deal haha

@Bill_Russo
@ZenHead
@hairloss_user
@cratusg
@MinervaCGI

he accomplished regrowth with minoxidil+derma yet he's selling a follicle growth serum with his kit and fails to mention minoxidil as part of his process, except that he took it "before" without effect:

https://myhair.life/pages/method

Also, you seriously couldn't come up with anything more creative than My Hair?

I have to be fair. I'm a big supporter of the original poster and his right to make money off of this. One thing that bothered me on that site is he talks down minoxidil a bit, even though that was a huge part of his success to go along with needling. I remember him saying he was contacted by a couple of Dr's. Maybe thats who the "Dr Miller" is. They got together, made a website and will try and profit off of it. Good for them, i really don't care and i'll tell you why.

Its just not the original poster getting results. Many other people on here and reddit have been. So the treatment is working, its not some BS snake oil. It has studies, anecdotal results and science behind it.

There is still no doubt in my mind the original poster's results are genuine. He was more than transparent with photos. But even in the unlikely scenario he was a fraud, there is still far too many positive outcomes from this treatment to say otherwise. The original poster helped once again open peoples eyes to needling. (even though guys like 2young and prettyfly had done in the past) However were going to be the ones to continue the experiment long term now and help each other.

 

[layabout]

I have to be fair. I'm a big supporter of the original poster and his right to make money off of this. One thing that bothered me on that site is he talks down minoxidil a bit, even though that was a huge part of his success to go along with needling. I remember him saying he was contacted by a couple of Dr's. Maybe thats who the "Dr Miller" is. They got together, made a website and will try and profit off of it. Good for them, i really don't care and i'll tell you why.

Its just not the original poster getting results. Many other people on here and reddit have been. So the treatment is working, its not some BS snake oil. It has studies, anecdotal results and science behind it.

There is still no doubt in my mind the original poster's results are genuine. He was more than transparent with photos. But even in the unlikely scenario he was a fraud, there is still far too many positive outcomes from this treatment to say otherwise. The original poster helped once again open peoples eyes to needling. (even though guys like 2young and prettyfly had done in the past) However were going to be the ones to continue the experiment long term now and help each other.

I'm not claiming his results aren't genuine. I think we're a large ways away beyond the point of doubting the regimen... I'm just noting that the site is full of dubious info and lies. Like, for example, he has his brother's pics on there as a success story "feature" for this treatment yet his brother used minoxidil in the same capacity he did. Also, he says the dermapen is clinic-quality but that's a blatant lie... if he's getting it from the same source he used to purchase his dermapen.. then they are not high quality and are just repurposed Chinese tattoo pens.

The worst part is the questionable and enigmatic "serum" he's offering as a critical component of the treatment. Like, he doesn't even list any ingredients and we know for a fact he never used such a serum ahah

 

[Drextez]

lmao did you guys see the e-store site that @74775446 made? He's claiming he founded his own new treatment called "trichostimulation" that has been clinically proven to be superior to minoxidil and finasteride:
https://myhair.life/

argh......

I dont know what to think of this......

If he really has a magic serum, he needs to reveal us the recipe....

If he refuses to reveal it, then it's unethical........ and this might mean he turned to the dark side

WARNING........

The day has arrived.......

What we are witnessing right now might be his betrayal of us............ pioneer,explorers,founders and builders of this thread


we might need to migrate this thread to a place where there's less toxic activities/practices happening, because this thread might get shutdown........

.......@74775446 has contacts with the admins of GourmetStyleWellness,com and im scared to say that he might very well order this thread to get terminated so he can have more profit on his e-store.....

this might mean we need to make a discord channel very fast............where we keep track of our progress and have chatrooms, instead of staying here... this is very dangerous

 

[yayapapaya]

I told you some of the pics were a scam.

 

[layabout]

I told you some of the pics were a scam.

You're so f*****g retarded