Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Ikarus]

It's kinda like the hairloss community's version of the tidepod challenge. But if you don't get poisoned you get hair!

Personally considering buying oral minoxidil pills on the black market because it's, uh, maybe safer? lol

With the one I am wanting to purchase, it has: propylene glycol, ethanol and water within the formulation...

 

[Pacahontas]

I’m on it 9 month ... but everything is bad

 

[I'mme]

Hello people,

I'm so glad I've found this forum, especially this thread. I did enough research and I read this whole thread, so I'm well informed.

Currently I'm 1 year and a half on dutasteride (0,5 mg ED), oral spironolactone (200 mg ED) and estradiol (4 mg ED). I experienced AMAZING regrowth and thickening of the hair, and I still do. NEVER experienced side effects. I'm only 3 months on oral minoxidil (10 mg ED) and it has given me even MORE regrowth and thickness. It's like magic.

Unfortunately, I've never made 'before and after pictures', to provide some sort of proof, but I guarantee you that I'm not lying. Before medication I was a NW2.5 or NW3, just like the 'before pictures' of this particular guy: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...16-nw3-at-19-now-22-with-norwood-0-5-1.65485/

Current state of my hair (sorry for the bad quality):
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Hi HairDork. Great results. Really happy for you. You take 200mg spirono and 4mg estradiol, still no sides?!! How is gynecomastia? Any feminization?

 

[I'mme]

Me too! I don't shed much hair on top or the sides, but it's mainly from the nape and donor area...

Yes, Hi5. Interestingly though, there is still a lot of hair there in nape area and donor region. I can't say the same for top and crown, duh

 

[Ikarus]

Aside from regular hair fall, I've never experienced a shed so far, but there is always that possibility that I could experience a shed or a side effect in the future.

What Norwood are you and how is it going with your regimen?

I’m an NW1, but diffuse thinning severely... I have probably the worst case of hair loss for a nineteen year old lol... It’s going well so far, but I think I just need to add a stimulant into the mix.

 

[Ikarus]

I’m on it 9 month ... but everything is bad

Wait I remember seeing your post earlier in this thread! I’m surprised bicalutamide hasn’t stopped your hair loss, especially at 50mg/day... What are your hormone levels?

 

[Ikarus]

well Ethanol seems to only be poisonous in large amounts and propylene glycol is considered a safe food additive by the FDA so i don't see how it would be poisonous to consume topical minoxidil.. just be careful with the dosage.

Yes, ethanol isn’t concerning since it’s within alcohol beverages nonetheless. Propylene glycol is safe for consumption, along with water. Within the one I am looking at, it has 20mg of minoxidil per 1ml. So, I think I would consume either 0.25ml or 0.5ml...

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Yes, ethanol isn’t concerning since it’s within alcohol beverages nonetheless. Propylene glycol is safe for consumption, along with water. Within the one I am looking at, it has 20mg of minoxidil per 1ml. So, I think I would consume either 0.25ml or 0.5ml...

Not all ethanol is the same. Ethanol in beauty products often has additional additives not included in the version in food/beverages. I'm sure it's probably safe, but definitely start with the smaller dose for a time to see how you tolerate. Last thing you want is your hair falling out because you're slowly poisoning yourself.

 

[I'mme]

It's kinda like the hairloss community's version of the tidepod challenge. But if you don't get poisoned you get hair!

Personally considering buying oral minoxidil pills on the black market because it's, uh, maybe safer? lol

I'm considering drinking liquid minoxidil; the one I have contains only ethanol/alcohol, so should be safe.
Oral pills are heck lot espensive and are burning a huge hole in my pocket.

 

[I'mme]

Yes, ethanol isn’t concerning since it’s within alcohol beverages nonetheless. Propylene glycol is safe for consumption, along with water. Within the one I am looking at, it has 20mg of minoxidil per 1ml. So, I think I would consume either 0.25ml or 0.5ml...

No no no... You just can't start with 20mg!! That it is used at 50mg for BP problems is a myth. It is often used at 5 to 40mg along with other meds for other BP or heart problems.

 

[Ikarus]

No no no... You just can't start with 20mg!! That it is used at 50mg for BP problems is a myth. It is often used at 5 to 40mg along with other meds for other BP or heart problems.

What? I said I would use 0.25ml/0.5ml which is 5mg/10mg...

 

[I'mme]

Not one side effect, including gynecomastia and feminization, although, my skin has become smoother and clearer.

I also expected gynacomastia, but to my surprise, I didn't get it. Even my dermatologist was amazed.

Wooaaahhhh!! Probably the luckiest person on this earth! Are you able to achieve NW1 back or still long way to go?

(I'm suspecting your estrogen must have been fake haha)

 

[Ikarus]

Not one side effect, including gynecomastia and feminization, although, my skin has become smoother and clearer.

I also expected gynacomastia, but to my surprise, I didn't get it. Even my dermatologist was amazed.

Wow... That is crazy... No gynecomastia at 4mg?! What about eggplant shrinkage?

 

[bridgeburn]

I also expected gynacomastia, but to my surprise, I didn't get it.

a year and a half on HRT and no gyno ?!?!

 

[Ikarus]

Not all ethanol is the same. Ethanol in beauty products often has additional additives not included in the version in food/beverages. I'm sure it's probably safe, but definitely start with the smaller dose for a time to see how you tolerate. Last thing you want is your hair falling out because you're slowly poisoning yourself.

I hope I do get poisoned lmao

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Not one side effect, including gynecomastia and feminization, although, my skin has become smoother and clearer.

I also expected gynacomastia, but to my surprise, I didn't get it. Even my dermatologist was amazed.

That's surprising. I have wear a sports bra under my shirt to act as a means of compression otherwise it's pretty obvious. I guess everyone reacts different

 

[bridgeburn]

I hate topicals so much... I always forget to use them, and end up using them like once a week lmao..

just use once a week then lol

 

[bridgeburn]

you said, you had dexamethason.. how long and what dose you had?
i want to try it too for some months
thank you

I used it until I ran out, I think about 3 months?

I used topical dex from eyedrops called Maxidex, just 3 times a week, a few drops.. used it along with oestrogel or topical minoxidil for absorption

but be careful, I heard dex is death

 

[Ikarus]

19 years old and androgenetic alopecia, that's harsh...

A stimulant can be a solution. Certain people won't consider minoxidil, especially the orally form, because of (possible) shedding and side effects, or they simply don't want to 'mask' the results they're receiving with DHT blockers or antiandrogens.

If drinking liquid minoxidil is equivalent to the mechanism of oral minoxidil, then consider a diuretic (to prevent possible water retention) and a beta blocker (to prevent possible heart problems/disorders).

I don’t even have much hair left to shed...It would be the worst thing ever if all of the new regrowth I have fell out due to oral minoxidil lmao... And yes, I can use spironolactone. Luckily, I have some left..l

 

[I'mme]

19 years old and androgenetic alopecia, that's harsh...

A stimulant can be a solution. Certain people won't consider minoxidil, especially the orally form, because of (possible) shedding and side effects, or they simply don't want to 'mask' the results they're receiving with DHT blockers or antiandrogens.

If drinking liquid minoxidil is equivalent to the mechanism of oral minoxidil, then consider a diuretic (to prevent possible water retention) and a beta blocker (to prevent possible heart problems/disorders).

Spironolactone is a diuretic... Is it also a beta blocker? (as it is used to treat/avoid heart problems)