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DoctorHouse said:
Honestly without taking finasteride or dutasteride, your loss will most likely continue. If you can accept it and move on and focus on a possibly having a child in your future you will be better off.
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@DoctorHouse Thanks for the honesty. I definitely would give dutasteride a chance, i just dont want to potentially expose her until i know for sure. She is gonna test tonight so i should have a better idea of what is going on. We had been pretty careful...EXCEPT on my birthday last month. But yeah, I'm kinda feeling like im about 99% sure that she is. I'm still gonna keep doing the other stuff now though, so that if this turns out to be a false alarm i can jump right back on and try the dua.

Oh and yeah... im trying to keep it together but honestly Im kinda freaking out today and Im having a lot of trouble concentrating on stuff
 
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losingbattle88 said:
Hop on dutasteride and ketoconazole shampoo and oral minoxidill and save for a hair transplant. i only got maintenance from dutasteride so dont expect much.
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Thanks man... gotta get some keto shampoo, i havent done that one yet... i still gotta see what is going on with my gf before i start popping dutasteride, although it wouldnt hurt to go ahead and get a precription.
 
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losingbattle88 said:
Well I think oral minoxidil at 5mg twice daily should do the trick. But if he wants he can use both topical minoxidill and oral but thats up to him. Im on 7mg twice daily orally.
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@losingbattle88 Definitely will give both a try then... dont figure out that i have much to lose to be honest... ill get the dua filled and see what happens. My gf is supposed to take a test tonight so when i get home from work I should have a good idea of whats going on lol
 
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@losingbattle88 Definitely will give both a try then... dont figure out that i have much to lose to be honest... ill get the dua filled and see what happens. My gf is supposed to take a test tonight so when i get home from work I should have a good idea of whats going on lol
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@losingbattle88 also, thanks for all the advice, you have been awesome. Sorry if i have been ranting and making posts that are wayyyyy too long. My head is just kinda spinning right now... and im not even sure what exactly i want the result to be lol
 
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Chill dude said:
It’s a massive hit you’ve taken in 3 years, but to make you feel better - think of all that testosterone you have mate

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Testosteron? U gotta be kidding me.. more like all that DHT. Finasteride and dutasteride even raise your T, I have become the hulk after introducing dutasteride. And I had rather low T before dutasteride. Its not only the amount of dht you have its also your sensitivity to it. High testosterone could leave you with more dht and that would be bad for a person with male pattern baldness gene. But had he taken finasteride or dutasteride his T would be higher even lol.
 
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Chill dude said:
It’s a massive hit you’ve taken in 3 years, but to make you feel better - think of all that testosterone you have mate

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losingbattle88 said:
Testosteron? U gotta be kidding me.. more like all that DHT. Finasteride and dutasteride even raise your T, I have become the hulk after introducing dutasteride. And I had rather low T before dutasteride.
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The hulk aye… I thought you stopped drinking during the day?
 
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Moz5x said:
How long were you actually on propecia?
Was your hairline already starting to recede 3yrs ago?

Definitely get your thyroid levels checked just to be sure.

There’s a belief among some doctors that a strong correlation exists between the amount of body hair vs aggressiveness of baldness for those who are genetically predisposed to it. Loss of leg/body hair and slower facial hair growth has been reported by many Finasteride users. There’s been some anecdotal evidence over the years that very hairy guys tend to respond better to Finasteride. Also, generally with this drug, the younger you are the better the potential response.

The decreased libido you experienced is not uncommon. Many guys choose to accept this as the trade off for keeping their hair. Some are able mitigate the sides by taking it every other day and/or reducing it. Given your aggressive loss I think you would be a better candidate for dutasteride. There are many reports of guys that couldn’t tolerate Finasteride but were able to handle dutasteride.
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my facial hair is patchy and have not much body hair as well. f*** these genes lmao
Chris2000 said:
Cool man, thanks for all the suggestions. Just looked up the Derminator 2, it looks pretty sweet. Zix looksnoretty good too, and pretty easy to make as well. Do you have any recommendation for anything to apply while doing the derminator? Or just stick with Zix and minoxidil? And also, is oral minoxidil exactly the same as the liquid minoxidil that goes on the head? Thanks
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after microneedling wait at least 6 hours before applying anything so the wounds close up. i usually use a copper peptide serum after microneedling to speed up healing, and it's good for hair as well. wait 12-24 hours before applying harsh actives like minoxidil

oral minoxidil can be either pills or the liquid that you currently use. it's safe to drink, but like i said-you only need like one drop per day. most dose between 2.5-10mg/day orally
 
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The hulk aye… I thought you stopped drinking during the day?
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my facial hair is patchy and have not much body hair as well. f*** these genes lmao

after microneedling wait at least 6 hours before applying anything so the wounds close up. i usually use a copper peptide serum after microneedling to speed up healing, and it's good for hair as well. wait 12-24 hours before applying harsh actives like minoxidil

oral minoxidil can be either pills or the liquid that you currently use. it's safe to drink, but like i said-you only need like one drop per day. most dose between 2.5-10mg/day orally
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Ye I use 7 drops twice a day thats like 15mg total in a Day.
 
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losingbattle88 said:
Testosteron? U gotta be kidding me.. more like all that DHT. Finasteride and dutasteride even raise your T, I have become the hulk after introducing dutasteride. And I had rather low T before dutasteride. Its not only the amount of dht you have its also your sensitivity to it. High testosterone could leave you with more dht and that would be bad for a person with male pattern baldness gene. But had he taken finasteride or dutasteride his T would be higher even lol.
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Well, i guess its possible that my T levels could be higher now, i havent even been off the finasteride for a week yet, and have been taking it for 8 months prior... i definitely feel more hormonal than before i took it, more like early teens lol... guessing T and E might both be a little elevated.
 
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vandun3 said:
my facial hair is patchy and have not much body hair as well. f*** these genes lmao

after microneedling wait at least 6 hours before applying anything so the wounds close up. i usually use a copper peptide serum after microneedling to speed up healing, and it's good for hair as well. wait 12-24 hours before applying harsh actives like minoxidil

oral minoxidil can be either pills or the liquid that you currently use. it's safe to drink, but like i said-you only need like one drop per day. most dose between 2.5-10mg/day orally
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Yeah im still not sure exactly where my facial hair is gonna end up, Im guessing that i still havent totally wrapped up the changes from puberty, as chest hair is still developing. But yeah, cool, havent heard about the copper peptides, another thing that i can try... and yeah, i learned my lesson the hard way about using minoxidil too soon after microneedling haha
 
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vandun3 said:
yeah it went from ~5-10 noticeable hairs/day to 30-50. visited here 3-4 months before moving and was shedding like crazy during the visit as well, stabilized to normal after going back
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Thanks. Definitely worth looking into... hoping that i can try a bunch of different things have hopefully find the right combination... honestly wouldnt have even thought to try a water filter. Im glad i found this place, lot of guys have some awesome ideas, looking places i wouldnt have even thought to look. Thanks again
 
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Why do you all think that if a person does not help finasteride and minoxidil, then he is too sensitive to DHT?

Why does no one think about the fact that in addition to DHT, there are also not obvious problems that are not related to DHT or simply prevent finasteride and minoxidil from working?

If nothing interferes with the hair, it will grow very quickly, you do not need to wait about half a year or a year to get the long-awaited fluff, look at the HRT people (not to be confused with transfer hair).

If your hair began to grow after half a year of use, this is not the merit of finasteride / min, this is a change in your body that reduced inflammation and finasteride / min began to work. Look at the miraculous growths on completely different drugs, someone got it from massage, someone from MSM, someone on minoxidil alone or ZIX, people have different reasons and they got to the point when they used this or that method and as a rule, it was all discovered at random.

Not to be unfounded, let me tell you about myself. (Quite possibly later, I will make a topic with screenshots when I solve this problem)

3 years ago I fell on my back, 2 weeks later I got a sore throat (tonsillit), and a month and a half later it became chronic. Month later, hair on the top of the head began to fall out, there was diffuse thinning of the sides, eyebrows also fell out, everything was accompanied by itching. I went to 2 trichologists, the diagnosis was 100% Androgenetic Alopecia. For 3 years i practically became bald, neither finasteride nor min helped, I used different preparations, massages, etc. But then I bought omega 3 (thought just vitamins) and lo and behold, they started growing like crazy. Omega 3 has a good effect on cholesterol, blood vessels, joints, etc (it's just a dietary supplement, it's not even a medicine). I still don't know the exact reason, but the search has narrowed down, the main problem with health and with the internal system. I am sure that most people who go bald at 18-30 are (especially those who do it aggressively and with inflammation), not going bald because of genetics. I also did not have to wait half a year for them to start growing, I saw major hair changes and many new ones in a week.

Here is an example of when the impossible is possible.

All doctors say that if the hair turns gray, it is no longer possible to return its color, but this grandfather proved the opposite, although his gray hair should already be irreversible due to age, I am silent about those, who turn gray at an early age.

Repigmentation and new growth of hairs after anti–interleukin-17 therapy with secukinumab for psoriasis - PMC

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Yes, I apologize for such a long post.
 
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