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I already gave examples of symmetrical face shapes that I think people can't go bald with.
Craniofacial development - The thing that make us lose hair(A hair loss theory)
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This op topic started when you say."the real factor here is DHT. Women from the very start do not have high testesterone to be converted to DHT"
And I think that it is not a issue
dude yr pressure theory doesnt hold up with women and eunuchs
are u saying ( with the pictures) he regrew his receding hair by mewing?? u are seriously deluded. The left pic maybe is older self and the right is his younger self? u dont even know which is which. This itself makes yr evidences less credible.
besides look at this particular pic u posted regardless of his older or younger pic ect.. he may not even have receding male pattern baldness because his left pic he has a thick frontal. and his right pic is that he has grown his hair long which is covering his forehead.
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@Ritchie I think that there are various factors to hair loss and it's not as simple as poor craniofacial development= bald. If it was just like that the hairline would be based on facial structure and people whose facial structure is very poor would be always Norwood 7, the ones with more moderate, depends how moderate would be Norwood 3 or 2. The ones that have craniofacial development bordering to good would have some slight recession and the ones with perfect craniofacial development would be the only ones with perfect hairlines. This is not the case. If that was we would have figured it out and noticed.
I think that various factors are involved like:
- How connected are head muscles to the head
- How much the facial structure impacts posture.
Two men can have very different facial structure - one very poor and the other more moderate but the two can be Norwood 2 and they can have identical galeas.
The way muscles are connected to the head seems legit because that the galea is smooth to me looks like an indicator that there is no tension. It's well know fact that bones remodel under the presence of forces. If you notice this condition has only four variations. It's either a combination of bald spot at the crown+ receding temples receding temples only, bald spot at the crown only or diffusing all over at the same time. You never find patterns like developping bald spot on the middle of the head, getting bald spot at the front etc. In some people probably muscles are connected in a way that the tension peopagates more evenly and they diffuse but they only do if the facial structure is poor enough to cause so much tension to compress all the top. In some people it propagates more unevenly and they get receding temples and it stays like this until they die because the tension is strong enough to compress tissues only at the temples and on the rest is too low. How much of the tension propagates is the other factor. The facial structure may be very poor but the individual can still have slight recession Norwood 1.5 but not diffuse. In this cases the muscles are probably connected in a way that cause tension but only a small amount of this tension goes to the galea. And of course in some individuals it doesn't at all and they have no signs of hair loss despite poor facial structure and poor posture.
I think that various factors are involved like:
- How connected are head muscles to the head
- How much the facial structure impacts posture.
Two men can have very different facial structure - one very poor and the other more moderate but the two can be Norwood 2 and they can have identical galeas.
The way muscles are connected to the head seems legit because that the galea is smooth to me looks like an indicator that there is no tension. It's well know fact that bones remodel under the presence of forces. If you notice this condition has only four variations. It's either a combination of bald spot at the crown+ receding temples receding temples only, bald spot at the crown only or diffusing all over at the same time. You never find patterns like developping bald spot on the middle of the head, getting bald spot at the front etc. In some people probably muscles are connected in a way that the tension peopagates more evenly and they diffuse but they only do if the facial structure is poor enough to cause so much tension to compress all the top. In some people it propagates more unevenly and they get receding temples and it stays like this until they die because the tension is strong enough to compress tissues only at the temples and on the rest is too low. How much of the tension propagates is the other factor. The facial structure may be very poor but the individual can still have slight recession Norwood 1.5 but not diffuse. In this cases the muscles are probably connected in a way that cause tension but only a small amount of this tension goes to the galea. And of course in some individuals it doesn't at all and they have no signs of hair loss despite poor facial structure and poor posture.
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That's different focal length not mewing.
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@Ritchie I saw that there is a scale about male faces from 1 to 10. This scale i think is false and I will create much more accurate one in my next post.
In this scale there is no 10 and it includes people that have serious birth defects and accident survivors. It should be about normal people I think.
In this scale there is no 10 and it includes people that have serious birth defects and accident survivors. It should be about normal people I think.
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@Ritchie Here is my 1-10 scale for men's face shapes and their predisposition to baldness..
1.Extremely poor facial structure
Very unattractive, inhumanely looking face. Displays typical traits for poor facial structure but in extreme way. Extremely flat cheekbones, extreme asymmetries, extremely narrow jawline etc. Usually ends Norwood 6 or 7.
2. Very poor facial structure.
Not alien but still goofy looking. Typically displays traits like very flat cheekbones, very narrow jawline, thin nose, aquilline nose, bite problems. Usually end up Norwood 6 or 7.
3. Slightly poor facial structure.
A face displaying typical traits for poor facial structure like flat cheekbones, narrow jawline, assymetrical ears etc.. Rather labelled as unattractive. Usually end up Norwood 6 or 7.
4.Moderately poor facial structure
Face containing indecent traits but not as bad as 3. Considered rather unattractive. Usually ends up Norwood 3,4 with a prominent recession at the temples and most of the times a bald spot at the crown.
5.Somewhat poor facial structure.
A face considered neither attractive nor unattractive. Displays more prominent cheekbones and jawline but not quite visible. Traits like aquiline Nose and narrow space between the eyes are often persistent. Usually ends up Norwood 2 or 3.
6. Decently improper facial structure.
A face considered more attractive than the average that displays more decent traits but still having improper jaw development that increases his predisposition to hair loss. Usually end up Norwood 2 or 3, but if the jawline is very narrow can go up to Norwood 7.
7. Moderate facial structure
People with more symetrical faces but still disproportional. Always stay Norwood 1.People with this type display traits like a bit round jawline and a minor teeth asymmetry. Ears are more symetrical, skin is thick, cheekbones aren't prominent but symetrical to the jawline. Labeled as somewhat attractive.
8. Moderately decent bone structure.
People with perfectly symmetrical and proportionate faces that still have at least one indecent traits(eyes, nose). Considered rather attractive. Always stay Norwood 1.
9. Good facial structure.
People with symetrical faces and decent facial traits like propminent cheekbones, sharp jawline, just have some minor flaws. Considered attractive, always stay Norwood 1.
10. Perfect facial strucuture.
Rarest type of facial structure. Pefecly symetrical face with squared jawline, straight nose, symmetrical ears and prominent cheekbones that are perfectly proportional to each other. Always stay Norwood 1 with perfect hairline. Considered very atractive.
1.Extremely poor facial structure
Very unattractive, inhumanely looking face. Displays typical traits for poor facial structure but in extreme way. Extremely flat cheekbones, extreme asymmetries, extremely narrow jawline etc. Usually ends Norwood 6 or 7.
2. Very poor facial structure.
Not alien but still goofy looking. Typically displays traits like very flat cheekbones, very narrow jawline, thin nose, aquilline nose, bite problems. Usually end up Norwood 6 or 7.
3. Slightly poor facial structure.
A face displaying typical traits for poor facial structure like flat cheekbones, narrow jawline, assymetrical ears etc.. Rather labelled as unattractive. Usually end up Norwood 6 or 7.
4.Moderately poor facial structure
Face containing indecent traits but not as bad as 3. Considered rather unattractive. Usually ends up Norwood 3,4 with a prominent recession at the temples and most of the times a bald spot at the crown.
5.Somewhat poor facial structure.
A face considered neither attractive nor unattractive. Displays more prominent cheekbones and jawline but not quite visible. Traits like aquiline Nose and narrow space between the eyes are often persistent. Usually ends up Norwood 2 or 3.
6. Decently improper facial structure.
A face considered more attractive than the average that displays more decent traits but still having improper jaw development that increases his predisposition to hair loss. Usually end up Norwood 2 or 3, but if the jawline is very narrow can go up to Norwood 7.
7. Moderate facial structure
People with more symetrical faces but still disproportional. Always stay Norwood 1.People with this type display traits like a bit round jawline and a minor teeth asymmetry. Ears are more symetrical, skin is thick, cheekbones aren't prominent but symetrical to the jawline. Labeled as somewhat attractive.
8. Moderately decent bone structure.
People with perfectly symmetrical and proportionate faces that still have at least one indecent traits(eyes, nose). Considered rather attractive. Always stay Norwood 1.
9. Good facial structure.
People with symetrical faces and decent facial traits like propminent cheekbones, sharp jawline, just have some minor flaws. Considered attractive, always stay Norwood 1.
10. Perfect facial strucuture.
Rarest type of facial structure. Pefecly symetrical face with squared jawline, straight nose, symmetrical ears and prominent cheekbones that are perfectly proportional to each other. Always stay Norwood 1 with perfect hairline. Considered very atractive.
There is something wrong with yr analysis . Most of the men u deem as having poor facial structure look like aged men and those u deem having good face are younger men how do u account for this?@Ritchie Here is my 1-10 scale for men's face shapes and their predisposition to baldness..
1.Extremely poor facial structure
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Very unattractive, inhumanely looking face. Displays typical traits for poor facial structure but in extreme way. Extremely flat cheekbones, extreme asymmetries, extremely narrow jawline etc. Usually ends Norwood 6 or 7.
2. Very poor facial structure.
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Not alien but still goofy looking. Typically displays traits like very flat cheekbones, very narrow jawline, thin nose, aquilline nose, bite problems. Usually end up Norwood 6 or 7.
3. Slightly poor facial structure.
A face displaying typical traits for poor facial structure like flat cheekbones, narrow jawline, assymetrical ears etc.. Rather labelled as unattractive. Usually end up Norwood 6 or 7.
4.Moderately poor facial structure
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Face containing indecent traits but not as bad as 3. Considered rather unattractive. Usually ends up Norwood 3,4 with a prominent recession at the temples and most of the times a bald spot at the crown.
5.Somewhat poor facial structure.
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A face considered neither attractive nor unattractive. Displays more prominent cheekbones and jawline but not quite visible. Traits like aquiline Nose and narrow space between the eyes are often persistent. Usually ends up Norwood 2 or 3.
6. Decently improper facial structure.
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A face considered more attractive than the average that displays more decent traits but still having improper jaw development that increases his predisposition to hair loss. Usually end up Norwood 2 or 3, but if the jawline is very narrow can go up to Norwood 7.
7. Moderate facial structure
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People with more symetrical faces but still disproportional. Always stay Norwood 1.People with this type display traits like a bit round jawline and a minor teeth asymmetry. Ears are more symetrical, skin is thick, cheekbones aren't prominent but symetrical to the jawline. Labeled as somewhat attractive.
8. Moderately decent bone structure.
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People with perfectly symmetrical and proportionate faces that still have at least one indecent traits(eyes, nose). Considered rather attractive. Always stay Norwood 1.
9. Good facial structure.
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People with symetrical faces and decent facial traits like propminent cheekbones, sharp jawline, just have some minor flaws. Considered attractive, always stay Norwood 1.
10. Perfect facial strucuture.
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Rarest type of facial structure. Pefecly symetrical face with squared jawline, straight nose, symmetrical ears and prominent cheekbones that are perfectly proportional to each other. Always stay Norwood 1 with perfect hairline. Considered very atractive.
Besides our skull and facial bones keep growing throughout our lifetime.
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Who has the best facial structure between these guys? rank and rate them
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Here it goes:
Mohammed Reza Golzar - 5/10
Jensen Ackles - 8/10
Brad Pitt - 9/10
Jake Gyllenhaal - 8/10
Robert Patisson - 7/10
George Clooney - 7/10
Danzel Washington - 4/10
Chris Hemtworth - 6/10
John Stamos - 8/10
Leonardo Dicaprio 6/10
Amell Steplhen - 9/10
Allain Dellon - 7/10
Rob Lowe - 10/10
Zac Effron - 7/10
William Dafoe - 4/10
Trevis Femmale - 5/10
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@Mitko1 your ratings doesnt completely match with that 1-10 scale that you gave .....mine is better
Golzar-8/10
Pitt-9/10
Ackles-10/10
Gyllenhaal 6/10
Pattinson 9/10
Clooney 8/10
Washington 6/10
Hemsworth 7/10
Stamos 8/10
Dicaprio 7/10
Amell 9/10
Delon 9/10
Lowe 10/10
Effron 7/10
Dafoe 9/10
Fimmel 7/10
I disagree with you on Willem Dafoe. He has a horizontal face with great jawline and prominent and sharp cheekbones thats why he is almost 70 and has a perfect hairline...
..no way gyllenhaal has a better facial structure than Pattinson and Delon.
What do you think of Robert Redford? most people say he wears a wig but i think thats his real hair..... He has a great facial structure
Do you think this theory applies to women too? i think it does.... i believe women with great facial structure have thicker hair than the others
Jennifer Aniston ,Doutzen Kroes ,Sara Sampaio and Gisele Bundchen have great facial structure and their hair is soooo thick ...compare them to these women
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Overall This theroy is likely to be true .... its time for people to change their mind...i didn't believe it at first but then i did some research and put away the feelings,hair loss is not some stupid genes that you get from your maternal grandfather............I will give you more examples ...
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Imo a lot of this is related to not only posture, but also the problem of mouth breathing.
I've seen women argue that in certain cases, practicing solely nose breathing helps to restore thinning hair.
Along the same theory as mewing, nose breathing has many benefits. In relation to this thread, it prevents the chin from dropping (creating tension around top of galea).
Additional benefits of nose breathing include better blood flow throughout the body and higher oxygenation levels on the brain.
We are forever changing even in old age so it's never to late to adapt from mouth to nose breathing and also stop allowing your mouth to droop (keep teeth quite close together) to improve overall well being and (possibly for some) hair density.
I've seen women argue that in certain cases, practicing solely nose breathing helps to restore thinning hair.
Along the same theory as mewing, nose breathing has many benefits. In relation to this thread, it prevents the chin from dropping (creating tension around top of galea).
Additional benefits of nose breathing include better blood flow throughout the body and higher oxygenation levels on the brain.
We are forever changing even in old age so it's never to late to adapt from mouth to nose breathing and also stop allowing your mouth to droop (keep teeth quite close together) to improve overall well being and (possibly for some) hair density.
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I don't think he has great facial structure. I'd put him 7/10. He doesn't have perfectly symmetrical face.
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So basically you are saying even if somone has a great jawline and prominent cheekbones but their face is not symmetrycal they are not 10/10 but if someone doesnt have a great jawline but has a symmetrycal face can be 10/10? so having symmetrycal face is more important?
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@Mitko1 I think having a symmetrycal face plays a role but not that much.....for example look at Brad Pitt, he has a little recession on his right side thats because his ears arent symnetrycal.
but robert pattinson that you gave a 7 has a facial asymmetry ...specially his nose but he has a round juveline hairline
but still it amazes me how people with poor facial structure can have a norwood 1......
@Mitko1 provide more example for your 1-10 scale because its really confusing..
but robert pattinson that you gave a 7 has a facial asymmetry ...specially his nose but he has a round juveline hairline
but still it amazes me how people with poor facial structure can have a norwood 1......
@Mitko1 provide more example for your 1-10 scale because its really confusing..
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