1 year on propecia and unhappy, not sure what to do

[IamtheWalrus_and29_male]

Last year I started noticing my hair thining. From this site, I was told it was never to early to start Propecia...even though those close to me said they noticed virtually no change in hair. After 1 year on propecia, (mostly in the past 3 months) I notice more hair loss, thining on the typicala bald spot area on the crown (i feel the circle) and the temples are receeding more. My hair is not growing back fast at all after a hair cut either.

Question is, what to do now. I started early when I had a good head of hair and I still have hair...so is propecia necessarily not working? Or is it just slowing the process? who knows...but I just feel this time NEXt year, I will be partly balding and receeded further back.

I haven't used rogain yet because i know it's not a solution but more of a stop gap issue. Guess i am almost ready for that.

Anything else? I use head and shoulders and also used nizoral for most of the year. Is nizoral a req? or is HandS good enough?

Any advice where to go from here?

THANKS

 

[Bone Daddy]

If you were balding at the same rate before propecia, I'd say your not responding to the meds. Might want to switch to dutasteride and have another go at it. minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

You did use nizoral consistantly, right?

You were always on time, and stable with propecia, right?

 

[HairFarmer]

Add some minoxidil..you need something for regrowth

 

[Bone Daddy]

Add some minoxidil..you need something for regrowth

Growth stimulant will do no good, if his hair loss isn't stable.

 

[BadHairDecade]

minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

What are you talking about. Minoxidil can be used as a stand alone treatment. It doesn't depend on finasteride at all. It should work better when used with finasteride but it's also proven to work alone as well.
Did you know that minoxidil outperformed finasteride in both hair counts and hair weight?

 

[Matgallis]

If you ahve recently been losing more hair then you might be a late responder. It's only been 3 months, the hair cycles i believe can be up to 6?

 

[Bone Daddy]

minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

What are you talking about. Minoxidil can be used as a stand alone treatment. It doesn't depend on finasteride at all. It should work better when used with finasteride but it's also proven to work alone as well.
Did you know that minoxidil outperformed finasteride in both hair counts and hair weight?

Most people I've seen prefer the big 3 whilst on minoxidil, for a reason. It's a team effort. And, I never said minoxidil was dependant on finasteride.

 

[ACT10Npack]

minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

What are you talking about. Minoxidil can be used as a stand alone treatment. It doesn't depend on finasteride at all. It should work better when used with finasteride but it's also proven to work alone as well.
Did you know that minoxidil outperformed finasteride in both hair counts and hair weight?

minoxidil does not outperformed finasteride in borth hair counts and hair weight. Where did you hear that from? minoxidil is more of a band-aid and will only help for a couple of years using it. finasteride can maintain your hair if you start early of male pattern baldness. But finasteride only works on 83 or 86% of people that use it. minoxidil is only 60% which is why people dont get the right help because people like you is giving out information that is not true. You maybe the 14% of people that will not help regrow or maintain their hair. Give it a couple of months and if you don't see improvement than jump on to dutasteride. You maybe going through a hair cycle and which means your hair that fell out will grow back.

 

[Bone Daddy]

minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

What are you talking about. Minoxidil can be used as a stand alone treatment. It doesn't depend on finasteride at all. It should work better when used with finasteride but it's also proven to work alone as well.
Did you know that minoxidil outperformed finasteride in both hair counts and hair weight?

minoxidil does not outperformed finasteride in borth hair counts and hair weight. Where did you hear that from? minoxidil is more of a band-aid and will only help for a couple of years using it. finasteride can maintain your hair if you start early of male pattern baldness. But finasteride only works on 83 or 86% of people that use it. minoxidil is only 60% which is why people dont get the right help because people like you is giving out information that is not true. You maybe the 14% of people that will not help regrow or maintain their hair. Give it a couple of months and if you don't see improvement than jump on to dutasteride. You maybe going through a hair cycle and which means your hair that fell out will grow back.

Sorry BHD, but that's 2 to 1 I'm afraid.

 

[BadHairDecade]

Settle down there Act10Pack...I've not misinformed anyone. Here's your proof that minoxidil outperformed propecia in hair counts and hair weights....I'm sure your next post will be an apology for flying off and saying "people like me are giving out information that is not true".
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/newsletter/ ... =0&thold=0

bone daddy....first off this isn't a competition and secondly ...yea 2 misinformed posts to 1 informed post...... :lol:


would you guys like me to post a link to an article that discussed a 48 week study proving minoxidil works on the frontal areas of the scalp too?

 

[BadHairDecade]

minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

What are you talking about. Minoxidil can be used as a stand alone treatment. It doesn't depend on finasteride at all. It should work better when used with finasteride but it's also proven to work alone as well.
Did you know that minoxidil outperformed finasteride in both hair counts and hair weight?

Most people I've seen prefer the big 3 whilst on minoxidil, for a reason. It's a team effort.

well yea minoxidil is part of the big three don't quite understand what you meant by that.

And, I never said minoxidil was dependant on finasteride.

you implied it by saying "minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable"

minoxidil is a good treatment for male pattern baldness. You say that it won't do much to maintain your hair...That's just not true...It's been proven to regrow hair. sh*t it's one of only two treatments that can legally make that claim. Maybe you meant something different, but if that's the case you need to state it more clearly.

 

[Bone Daddy]

minoxidil is part of the big 3 because it's primary job is to grow hair. Nizoral then helps the scalp, while finasteride keeps the hair from getting worse. Each part of the team has a specific job, and while each part of the team isn't dependant on the other two.. they work much better together, if at all.

If minoxidil was the end all, be all, then it would be the "Big One". Not to mention if you don't respond to finasteride, or dutasteride, your not likely to respond to minoxidil. Does it increase penis size, and IQ too? I'd love to hear more about this wonderful new version of minoxidil!



I was clear, and your the only one that had a problem with comprehension, so I'm fine thanks.

 

[BadHairDecade]

step away from the bong my friend......don't get all defensive just becuase your statement wasn't clear. but if you get

minoxidil is part of the big 3 because it's primary job is to grow hair. Nizoral then helps the scalp, while finasteride keeps the hair from getting worse. Each part of the team has a specific job, and while each part of the team isn't dependant on the other two.. they work much better together, if at all.

from

minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable.

you got some pretty good weed there.

 

[Bone Daddy]

*sigh*

Can you even read?

If you think minoxidil maintains that well, why do you use finasteride? You said in the other thread that the guy should basically just use minoxidil, as it was more effective than finasteride anyway, you even gave links.

Your trieng to get the last word in by saying the same misinformation over and over again, it's not working. I will not repeat myself again for you.

minoxidil IS A GROWTH STIMULANT, IT IS FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF GROWING HAIR. WHILE IT DOES HELP MAINTAIN, MOST FIND finasteride TO BE BETTER SUITED, AS THAT IS finasteride'S JOB. minoxidil WILL NOT DO A BETTER JOB OF MAINTAINING HAIR FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO USE ONLY ONE HAIRLOSS PRODUCT, AND NIZORAL. IN OTHER WORDS THE "BIG TWO".


Is that a big enough text, and font for you?

 

[Bone Daddy]

Double posting to say again:

You sir, are hopeless. I think I'll wait for Act10nPack to try and knock some sense, or visionary help in your general direction.

Oh, that sentence you keep pasting of mine? It's the truth, it won't. It's a growth stimulant. The maintenance it causes is an aside.

Waiting on 10, till then.. practice your phonics!

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GO VOLS! :hairy:

 

[BadHairDecade]

Can you even read?

settle down pal ....try this ohmmm.....ohmmm.....ohmmm no need for insults...All I'm doing is trying to make things clearer. Don't take it as a personal attack...we can disagree without the insults.

If you think minoxidil maintains that well, why do you use finasteride? You said in the other thread that the guy should basically just use minoxidil, as it was more effective than finasteride anyway, you even gave links.

I use finasteride becuase I need to hit it from every angle. Click on my regimen and you'll see my before pics were pretty bad.

Show me where i suggested that he only use minoxidil. All I was doing was showing that minoxidil is effective alone, after you posted the following statement "minoxidil wont do much to maintain your hair, it's a growth stimulant for once the finasteride has things stable. " Then Act10Npack stated that it should only be used when nothing else works"

minoxidil gets a bad rap from a lot of people. There's a reason why it's in the big 3...Because it's PROVEN to work

Your trieng to get the last word in by saying the same misinformation over and over again, it's not working. I will not repeat myself again for you.

I'm not giving any misinformation. That's not what I'm trying to do here either....What you typed can easily be confused for something else. Sometimes it's hard to get a point across when it's typed. If you make your point clearly the first time you can aviod having someone question what your talking about. :wink:

 

[IamtheWalrus_and29_male]

Can we focus on me since i started this topic? I guess my question is, what should I expect with finasteride? i am starting to get the bald spot ( not visible yet but i feel a halo of thiner hair around the back of the head) after being on finasteride for 1 year?! thus, is it time to get off??

Please address this.

minoxidil, to me, is a regrowth of hair solution when i start showing balding signs...right now it seems a process i am not ready for...but will use when needed finally.

thanks.

 

[Bone Daddy]

Again, I would give it another few months, but to me it sounds like you might not be responding to the meds, so try dutasteride for a while. If dutasteride works for you, then slap the minoxidil on. As always use Nizoral for 2-3 days a week and leave it on for 5-10 minutes. If the dutasteride doesn't work.. well I don't know what to tell you. If you don't respond to finasteride or dutasteride, minoxidil won't likely work either.

 

[BadHairDecade]

well you could try dutasteride if your desperate...Personally I'd add minoxidil 2x/day first since it's the next proven treatment out there and is part of "The Big 3".minoxidil supposedly works in a much different way than finasteride/dutasteride so there's still hope that it will work for you even if finasteride/dutasteride don't.

BHD

 

[Guest]

Can we focus on me since i started this topic? I guess my question is, what should I expect with finasteride? i am starting to get the bald spot ( not visible yet but i feel a halo of thiner hair around the back of the head) after being on finasteride for 1 year?! thus, is it time to get off??

Please address this.

minoxidil, to me, is a regrowth of hair solution when i start showing balding signs...right now it seems a process i am not ready for...but will use when needed finally.

thanks.

If your hair has become worse in the last three months, it may just be a shed you are going through (often followed by improved regrowth).

Maybe you could consider a slightly higher dose of finasteride (as your current dose would appear to be losing against DHT) before jumping ship to dutasteride, both these options carry an extra risk of side effects, although as we know BPH patients have been successfully using finasteride at 5mg from around 1992.

good luck.