gourmetstylewellness.com guys vs normal guys.

s.a.f

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Well firstly you have to realise that nobody gives a f*** about your hair. Why would they?
M.P.B effects a pretty decent % of the population, its not like its rare.
And as far as women are concerned they're all individuals Ive been with 8's and even 9's yet been turned down by 5's and 6's. Some women are shallow some are'nt.

I'm definatley not a super confident guy, but you dont have to be as long as you're not projecting the vibe of being a loser that will be enough.

If you've got buddies who dont care about your hair then what makes you believe that the rest of society cares about it.
And anyway how many NW1's can get any girl they like?
 

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s.a.f said:
I'm definatley not a super confident guy, but you dont have to be as long as you're not projecting the vibe of being a loser that will be enough.

If you've got buddies who dont care about your hair then what makes you believe that the rest of society cares about it.
And anyway how many NW1's can get any girl they like?

And how not to project the vibe of a loser if you are indeed one(at least socially, but people judge you mainly by your social life anyway)?
 

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s.a.f said:
I know plenty of bald and balding guys and NONE of them fit the stereotype that people on here preach about.

Sad but true this forum attracts the lamest bald guys and its become their refuge where they can all feel comforted in their combined failure.

they must feel fake as hell living lives they aren't supposed to have.
it's important to keep it real being bald, which is something those pretenders don't succeed at.
baldness is lame, so we shall be too. thats keeping it real.
 

Nashville Hairline

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saf you seem extraordinarily positive the last few months! Its all good though, there's too many of the guys at the negative extreme end of the hair loss community dominating threads.

I'd love to be NW1 again, there's no denying that and I think the majority of us would like to be more attractive to the opposite sex or society in general - I think that's just human nature - but at this point I'm trying to just not give a f*ck if a woman doesn't like me for my hairline. Life's too short and you'll never ever please every woman you meet. I have my own opinions about what I find attractive in a woman and they are entitled to have their own opinions too.

Follow the examples of the millions of bald guys out there getting on with their lives and finding partners and not the guys at home saying they'll never get laid again. It wont happen if you sit at home (unless you dial an escort, obviously :woot: ).
 

uncomfortable man

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Sorry after six years and 8000+ posts you are still an gourmetstylewellness.com guy and not one of those many normal bald guys you seem to envy so much. I feel like you are getting a little out of hand with this one SAF. People are going to feel what they are going to feel, who are you to tell them that what they are feeling is wrong? For all of your wisdom and common sense, you can't seem to grasp this. Maybe it is you who should move on with your life....
 

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s.a.f, I have come to realize no matter what you preach on here, these guys are never going to listen. For some reason people are more depressed now than ever before. I deal with many women daily and frankly I am disappointed in them too. I listen to them b**ch and complain about every little trivial thing just like some of the forum members on here do. I find its funny how they expect men to be a certain way yet they are no saints themselves.

I just heard about this site that reveals people who cheat on their significant others and the site said most of them are women. Guess they must be cheating on their NW3s or worse with NW1s................................. :whistle:

Guys stop worrying about your hair, women have so many insecurities themselves that you really don't need to worry as much. Just keep at a healthy weight and dress well and show them some confidence. That is really what they want to see in you. If you got some hair, that just add some icing to the cake. No matter what you do, they are going to still b**ch and sometimes they are going to take it out on your flaws. If you are balding, they will use that as a weapon to try to show you can be weak. Women in TODAY's society are meaner than ever. They want to control men. They are tired of being in the background. They want to be noticed. They want to be more successful and more powerful now than ever before. Just remember, they need us if they want to succeed. I think its cool they want to be like this. Any women reading this post by any chance, I am on your side but its time you cut us some slack too. We bald and we age. Looks fade. Every one deserves a chance.

You know divorce rate is so high, simply because no matter what you do, someone in the marriage is never happy. Depression is on the rise now more than ever before. No one wants to compromise anymore. Everyone wants their own way. Our society let our media and Hollywood actors dictate how we should look and act. Trust me, people like Brad and Angelina, Katie and Tom, and Kutcher and Demi( knew this marriage would never last) b**ch about each other all the time. They may have fortune and fame but I am sure they have grief just like the rest of us.

Wake up fellow forum members, you can save your hair all you want but its not going to change the fact that who ever you attract is going to be a big challenge to keep faithfully in your life. There will be heartache and grief that will be worse than hair loss.

As far as sex goes, that is no challenge to get. Any person horny enough can find someone in the same boat as themselves and take care of each other without any strings attached. If you want to buy sex, you can do that do.

The biggest challenge in life is to find someone who will have your back for life and give you unconditional love for the rest of your life. That is what you have to think about for your future. You think your hair will prevent you from getting that chance? If you do, then keep living that life of misery. You are in good company because more people are more miserable now than ever before.

You want to feel good. Do something charitable or do something that changes the quality of life for others. Do some good for humanity. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs( RIP) did this and they are heroes now. People admire them more than Brad Pitt's perfect NW1 or handsome looks. These guys were balding heroes mind you. Anyone of you have the potential to do what these guys did.

Stop bashing each other constantly and start supporting each other for a change. This forum used to be enjoyable. However people turning on each other is non productive. S.a.f just likes to give people reality checks. Its time you guys keep fighting your hair loss but do it in a dignified way. Do something with your lives productive so you can afford the better treatments that might be in the future. Keep fighting hairloss but stop fighting amongst each other. Peace to all of you.
 

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Yeah I've been avoiding this forum a lot over the last few months cos there's simply waaaay too much sh*t-talk going on...

I'm not trying to preach to NW5+ guys here either, so spare me the "you don't what it feels like" reply... I'm talking about my own kind here, countless NW3s, whining and bitching about not being able to get really hot girls :sobbing: (when they were never able to get them in the first place anyway :jackit: ), crying about how their life is over etc etc etc :shakehead:

Man the fck up and stop wallowing in self-pity!

Not only is it depressing, it's just f*****g boring to read the same sh*t everyday because there's not even an ounce of perspective or objectivity in any of their posts and if I was some 18/19 year old young'un discovering this site for the first time, it would frighten the sh*t out of me to be reading the delusional stuff they come out with...

It's irresponsible and sets a really poor example to be posting such garbage at such an alarming rate because the young kids here will probably know no better and take these self-indulgent ramblings as the Gospel and truth... (e.g. Exodus)

I'm very grateful I didn't discover this place when I was a teen cos who knows I could easily have ended up like one of the many housebound, reclusive losers we have here today.
 

uncomfortable man

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Keep on assuming that people who vent here have no life outside the forums. Whatever helps you build an argument...
 

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monty1978 said:
Primo you're an alright guy I like your posts, they are generally balanced and a good read.

BUT firstly, I speak for myself here, I've done and continue to do some pretty cool sh*t with my life despite over 2000 posts on this forum.

I have also moaned about the bitching the goes on to a certain extent as I do think it can be OTT sometimes. However people are gonna feel the way they feel.

What is slightly grating me is how a gourmetstylewellness.com member can preach about how we are all losers when they themself have a prolific >8000 posts and 4 hair transplants.

I struggle to find a greater hypocricy! I take on board peoples viewpoints "occassionally", not enough as I've become cynical towards my fellow man in recent years but they damn well have to walk the walk if they are gonna talk the talk if Iallow their impression to affect my outlook on things! :dunno:

again with personal attacks..... READ WHAT HE SAID. WHINING ABOUT YOUR HAIR WON'T SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING.
 

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2020 said:
again with personal attacks..... READ WHAT HE SAID. WHINING ABOUT YOUR HAIR WON'T SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING.

but it sure feels great to take a load off :]
 

2020

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Ori83 said:
2020 said:
again with personal attacks..... READ WHAT HE SAID. WHINING ABOUT YOUR HAIR WON'T SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING.

but it sure feels great to take a load off :]

but it won't actually change anything.... most of you CONTINUE visiting this forum and bitching how you can only get obese chicks. WTF?? A bunch of losers
 

s.a.f

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uncomfortable man said:
Sorry after six years and 8000+ posts you are still an gourmetstylewellness.com guy and not one of those many normal bald guys you seem to envy so much. I feel like you are getting a little out of hand with this one SAF. People are going to feel what they are going to feel, who are you to tell them that what they are feeling is wrong? For all of your wisdom and common sense, you can't seem to grasp this. Maybe it is you who should move on with your life....

Well I could have easily said a couple of years ago, right I've sorted my problem so see yaaa!

You say people are going to feel how they feel and who am I to tell them they're wrong?
Well thats simple if some guy tells you he'll never get a woman because he's not a rich or he's not 6'3" should you let him continue to believe that or point out all the other non rich and tall guys who are getting women?

I stay on here because baldness is something that I had to deal with alone and if I had had the oppurtunity to talk to others who were going through it I would probably have dealt with it alot better.

There are young guys who are coming on here just to browse and look for treatments and if they see the kind of posts that some people leave on here about society hating them and women being disgusted they could end up wasting their youth.

You and me used to agree about most things and you know that hairloss bothered me just as much as you and it still does, but with the recent cases of people posting extremist and frankly ridiculous posts (and I'm talking way more extreme than anything you've ever posted) where as in the past I'd just let some things go now I've been forced to try to re-address the balance.

As a guy who has a wife a kid and a social life, (and being one of the few guys on here who is actually bald) you are living proof that these type of theories are just wrong. So I dont see how you think its wrong to try and talk some sense ito them.

Also you must see the psychology of some of these guys they are miserable for the sake of it because it justifies their failure.

Funny how this forum was getting along fine for years until these few crazy depressives came along.
 

s.a.f

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2020 said:
Ori83 said:
2020 said:
again with personal attacks..... READ WHAT HE SAID. WHINING ABOUT YOUR HAIR WON'T SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING.

but it sure feels great to take a load off :]

but it won't actually change anything.... most of you CONTINUE visiting this forum and bitching how you can only get obese chicks. WTF?? A bunch of losers

Exactly if these guys say I should leave if all they're saying everyday is society hates me, chicks all hate me .... ect.
Then they've made their point clear so they might aswell leave because they're not getting anything out of being here.
 

s.a.f

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Primo said:
Yeah I've been avoiding this forum a lot over the last few months cos there's simply waaaay too much sh*t-talk going on...

I'm not trying to preach to NW5+ guys here either, so spare me the "you don't what it feels like" reply... I'm talking about my own kind here, countless NW3s, whining and bitching about not being able to get really hot girls :sobbing: (when they were never able to get them in the first place anyway :jackit: ), crying about how their life is over etc etc etc :shakehead:

Man the fck up and stop wallowing in self-pity!

Not only is it depressing, it's just f****ing boring to read the same sh*t everyday because there's not even an ounce of perspective or objectivity in any of their posts and if I was some 18/19 year old young'un discovering this site for the first time, it would frighten the sh*t out of me to be reading the delusional stuff they come out with...

It's irresponsible and sets a really poor example to be posting such garbage at such an alarming rate because the young kids here will probably know no better and take these self-indulgent ramblings as the Gospel and truth... (e.g. Exodus)

I'm very grateful I didn't discover this place when I was a teen cos who knows I could easily have ended up like one of the many housebound, reclusive losers we have here today.

uncomfortable man said:
Keep on assuming that people who vent here have no life outside the forums. Whatever helps you build an argument...

Err Seb, HPM, BBS, they dont even deny it.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Keep on assuming that people who vent here have no life outside the forums. Whatever helps you build an argument...
UM, we are not assuming anything, some of these people are broadcasting they have no life outside this forum. Not all do it but many do. How many times have I read my life is over, I quit school, and I don't go out anymore and I don't bother with any friends or girls anymore. I am all for venting but many people end up attacking each other in the process. I feel sorry for some of these guys in here who have Napoleon complexes or are way too skinny or have acne. I know whats it like to be skinny with acne, it is no picnic. I know what its like to suffer from BDD too. Yet I don't come on here and bash people when they vent. I think that is so uncool.

Everyone is entitled to vent about hair loss no matter how minor. Yet for some reason some people cannot ignore someone with minor loss who thinks its the end of the world. They have to make it a "pissing contest" and disclose that being a NW5,6, or 7 does not compare to being a NW1, 2, or 3. Are the low Norwood that stupid they they don't know the more hair loss you have at a younger age the worse the scenario becomes? I think most people on here have enough common sense to know that if you have aggressive hair loss at a young age you might struggle to fit into a society who judges people by the way they look.

UM I think you are one of the coolest guys on here. I honestly think most of your bashing came from very jealous people who just felt threatened by your height, build and good looks. Your hair loss was the only flaw they saw in you and that was what they concentrated on to make you feel like an outcast. They had to find something wrong with you because they felt threatened by all your other gifts. Who knows, maybe you never smiled too and that set them off too. I get crap all the time by women that I don't smile enough. Why do I need to smile all the time? I can be happy and not have to smile. That used to bother me but no more. I have come to the conclusion that we all are equal underneath our armor and everyone has a potential to be nice and to treat others with respect no matter how sad we feel. Life is always going to throw you a curve ball. You need to learn to deal with it and teach others how to deal with it as well. Helping others when they are down and lifting them up is the best feeling I have ever experienced. I have learned no one cares about my hair when I show my kindness. They just care that I made them feel better about themselves and they will gain my respect very fast.

I used to be like so many guys in here, a big loner who felt sorry all the time for myself because I did not look like a Tom Brady. The good looking football jock who all the hot women fall all over. I wanted to be him but I could never be him. Why? I don't have his genetics. I wasted all my life believing this when all that time I could have gotten any hot women because I had everything most women want in a guy. However, unfortunately I lacked the most important thing that everyone needs to survive. Confidence and High self-esteem. I never had this until now. Wait, that is a lie. I had it all my life but I just never believed I had it until just the past year. Everyone has confidence and high self esteem but you have to believe in yourself to see it. Look in the mirror and find it. I promise you its not on the top of your head its somewhere else. Once you find it, you will learn that everyone wants it. They will try to take it from you but don't let them. Its yours and only yours. If you let someone steal it from you, you will live a life of misery forever. I wish I could help everyone on here but if I just help one of you, I will be very happy. Take my words of advice. It took me too many years to find this out but now you guys know what i have discovered. Some of you can chose to ignore everything I just said. Your loss not mine. Remember the next time you want to bash someone, just remember all that you are doing is trying to steal what little confidence or self esteem that person has left. Words even on a forum like this can be very hurtful to some vulnerable people even if its coming from a total stranger. I think people come on here to boost their self esteem by showing their hair but unfortunately someone with a higher Norwood is going to shoot them down the moment they say they feel its the end of the world. That's pretty sad if you ask me.
 

s.a.f

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Yep there is venting in a positive manner to get your feelings about hairloss out there.

And then there is coming on here and stating crap like women see any bald man as ugly, bald men have to pay for sex, when you go bald your life is over .... ect. Then accusing guys who disagree of lying.
 

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s.a.f said:
Yep there is venting in a positive manner to get your feelings about hairloss out there.

And then there is coming on here and stating crap like women see any bald man as ugly, bald men have to pay for sex, when you go bald your life is over .... ect. Then accusing guys who disagree of lying.
Like I said s.a.f., most of the time you are going to waste your breath on here trying to refute the thoughts and comments of someone who has failed with women due to some physical excuse when plenty of people who have the exact same physical problem succeed in life and with women. I have learned its best to just stay out of those post and stick with people who ask for your help specifically. Its not worth fueling the fire on people with low self-esteem and no confidence. They will always argue with you that the way they see it is the only way. I used to feel that way too but that was because I had low self-esteem and no confidence. Now I have learned everyone has a right to their own opinion and I just let them believe what they want. Not my loss, its theirs.
 
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