gourmetstylewellness.com: one final question about Revivogen (and spironolactone)

[Mr T.]

And (E)

You also didn't reply to my remark about your being a PUSSY. Maybe that's because you ARE in fact a little pussy b**ch and need to vent your attitude problem on a computer because you're too much of a b**ch to do it in real life.

Don't act tough on the net, if you wanna act tough do it for real, in my experience internet hard men are skinny little geeks. You merely will not bow to my superiority. I very much doubt you'd try flame me to my face. Prove me wrong. :roll:

a) Hey, all I did was call you out for acting like a prick. If you don't want someone to call you a prick and a b**ch, then don't act like either.
b) If it's the meaning of the posts that count, why don't you show me some evidence that topical spironolactone applied once a day is successful for hair maintenace? Can you do it??? Apparently not. Hmmmmm.
c) As hard as this is to believe, some people can actually type both well AND quickly! Simply amazing!!! There's also something call PROOF-READING, which takes about, oh, 10 seconds maybe. Simply INCREDIBLE!!! WE'RE BREAKING NEW GROUND HERE PEOPLE!!!!
d) I'm laughing. Maybe you would be too if you understood what it is I'm talking about. "Huh??? Shoe? Duuuuuuuuh. Did I say shoe?"
e) Ring ring.
Pot: "Hello kettle?"
Kettle: "Yes pot."
Pot: "Just calling to tell you you're black. Good day."

I should also point out how absurd it is to say that "internet hard men" are skinny little geeks. So I guess you're accustomed to meeting a fairly large sample size of the guys who act like "hard men" on the Internet? Hmmm. You have an odd dating life my friend. An odd dating life indeed.

Cheers.

Jeremy

 

[Lizzad]

b) If it's the meaning of the posts that count, why don't you show me some evidence that topical spironolactone applied once a day is successful for hair maintenace? Can you do it??? Apparently not. Hmmmmm.

It's working for me, and i have a good head of hair. which is more than you'll have at my age the way your going. There is more logical proof for spironolactone once per day than revivogen or crinagen 2 or 3 times per day. Use some common sense. I need not prove anything to you, i don't care if you go bald, but if it works for me, thats all that matters. And i will point you AGAIN, for the 3rd time...i do not suffer from severe androgenic hairloss, so i do not need to use spironolactone 2 x per day. Infact, i don't really [/u]need to use it at all, It's just an addition to my regimen, an additional safeguard if you will.

Get it yet?

c) As hard as this is to believe, some people can actually type both well AND quickly! Simply amazing!!! There's also something call PROOF-READING, which takes about, oh, 10 seconds maybe. Simply INCREDIBLE!!! WE'RE BREAKING NEW GROUND HERE PEOPLE!!!!

As i said, people with IQ's in the normal range or above can understand posts with a few typos perfectly well. I still haven't lowered myself to searching for typos. tut tut

I should also point out how absurd it is to say that "internet hard men" are skinny little geeks. So I guess you're accustomed to meeting a fairly large sample size of the guys who act like "hard men" on the Internet? Hmmm. You have an odd dating life my friend. An odd dating life indeed.

More sh*t talk because you don't have the information not the intellect to base your posts on argument and logical thinking. When your a NW5 in a couple of years maybe you'll have wisdes you'd learned a little more from more knowledgeable, and talked less sh*t.

I called you a dumbass because that's true, your comments of

b**ch

is without any basis.

I know most of you type are weedy mamas boys because not one of you ever would call me out for real, only behind the safety of your PC. It seems to me you have serious issue, perhaps going back to childhood. Or perhaps your going bald and your pissed off...hmmm, deal with it. Everyone here has to. I suggest you go have your daily jerk off and you'll fell a lot better for it...relelase a little tension.

Fact is, i'd kick your sorry bitchin little *** all over town, so stay behind youe PC, where your safe and your momma can bring you lunch when it's ready.

Found any real proof for revivogen yet? :lol: :lol: :lol: Thought not. :roll:

 

[Mr T.]

It's working for me, and i have a good head of hair. which is more than you'll have at my age the way your going. There is more logical proof for spironolactone once per day than revivogen or crinagen 2 or 3 times per day. Use some common sense. I need not prove anything to you, i don't care if you go bald, but if it works for me, thats all that matters. And i will point you AGAIN, for the 3rd time...i do not suffer from severe androgenic hairloss, so i do not need to use spironolactone 2 x per day. Infact, i don't really [/u]need to use it at all, It's just an addition to my regimen, an additional safeguard if you will.

What in the hell are you talking about? Are you saying that you don't have male pattern baldness, or you don't have SEVERE male pattern baldness? Clarify your statements.

Sounds to me like you're throwing your money away. You have no studies to back up your claims. You don't even know if spironolactone is working for you if you're relying more on minoxidil than anything else. You're full of sh*t Lizzad. First, you're all like, "Where are the studies backing up Revivogen?" Yet you don't have any studies that show that spironolactone applied topically once a day is effective for maintenance purposes. Just your subjective experience, which isn't even reliable when you're using other topicals. I could find people who say that Revivogen works for them too, yet that wouldn't convince you, would it? Hmmm.

As i said, people with IQ's in the normal range or above can understand posts with a few typos perfectly well. I still haven't lowered myself to searching for typos. tut tut

I can understand your garbled posts well enough. But you're still a f*****g idiot because you can't spell and you can't type. You also can't reason properly, as you contradict yourself in your posts by demanding studies, and then saying that studies don't matter as far as you're concerned.

More sh*t talk because you don't have the information not the intellect to base your posts on argument and logical thinking. When your a NW5 in a couple of years maybe you'll have wisdes you'd learned a little more from more knowledgeable, and talked less sh*t.

I highly doubt I'll be a NW5 in a few years, but that's beside the point. I've clearly made you look like an ***, yet you insist that you're smarter than me. The true hallmark of an idiot.

I know most of you type are weedy mamas boys because not one of you ever would call me out for real, only behind the safety of your PC. It seems to me you have serious issue, perhaps going back to childhood. Or perhaps your going bald and your pissed off...hmmm, deal with it. Everyone here has to. I suggest you go have your daily jerk off and you'll fell a lot better for it...relelase a little tension.

Actually, the only thing that pisses me off is little shits like you who come on here and give people attitude when they're trying to engage in civil conversations. Like I said before, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CALLED A b**ch, THEN DON'T ACT LIKE ONE. What's so hard to understand about that?

To tell the truth, I'm not peeved at all. I've actually enjoyed making you look like an idiot. Although, most of the credit actually goes to you, so I thank you profusely for making my job relatively easy.

Fact is, i'd kick your sorry bitchin little *** all over town, so stay behind youe PC, where your safe and your momma can bring you lunch when it's ready.

Hmmm. And you're basing this on what exactly? How do you know I'm not 6 inches taller than you and twice your weight? Or maybe I'm a black belt in karate? The thing is, you don't know. You're just talking out of your ***. You spend so much time talking out of your *** I'm surprised you even have the time to sh*t.

Even if you COULD kick my *** - and I don't know because I have no idea how big, fast, or skilled you are - I would just take a baseball bat to your head, so there.

Found any real proof for revivogen yet? :lol: :lol: :lol: Thought not. :roll:

Found any proof for once a day topical spironolactone yet?
Thought not. :roll:

 

[Lizzad]

Looks like you have too much time on your hands kiddo. :roll:

 

[Mr T.]

Looks like you have too much time on your hands kiddo. :roll:

Nah.

 

[KO_thomas]

Its amazing the kinds of things people will argue about on here.

 

[gerard]

i m w Mr.T on this one, if u have money, definitly go for Rev/Crinagen + spironolactone comobo over propecia... the risk is not worthwhile.

 

[Stinger122]

Its amazing the kinds of things people will argue about on here.

Reckon they should join the Guinness world records book?

 

[dis]

Hello,

I was wondering if I can ask a quick question. I am a 28 year old male that has been diffusely thinning for about 4 years. I have been using Revivogen and 5% spironolactone cream in the evenings for over a year. My results so far have been a slow down in hair loss and also a noticeable reduction of hairs that shed. However, my hair loss is thinning more diffusely in the front, and it’s noticeable when my hair is dry. I can also feel that there is much less density when I run my hands through my hair compared to a few years ago.

I tried Propecia for about a year in the past but stopped because of major telogen effluviums. Additionally, I do not want to use minoxidil because it’s messy / greasy, and could cause a major shed like the ones I had on Propecia. Also, I do not think that it actually deals with the underlying cause of male pattern baldness.

My question is that I am thinking of upping my dosage of spironolactone 5% cream to twice a day to see if that makes any improvements with maintenance, but since spironolactone is messy I do not want to wear it throughout the day. Could I apply the 5% spironolactone cream for 1 hr in the morning when I wake up and then wash it off in the shower, or is that not enough time for the spironolactone 5% cream to have an effect? What is the minimal amount of time that spironolactone can be left on the scalp to have an effect?

Thanks

 

[HairFreak]

Actually spironolactone should be applied every two hours because it loses its effectiveness very quickly.

 

[dis]

Well, I asked Dr Lee if I could apply spironolactone 5% cream only for 1 hr in the morning and then wash it off, and he said the following:

In the morning apply 1 mL of 5% Xandrox to all affected areas and in the evening at least 8 hours later, near bed time, apply 1 mL of Xandrox15. Ten minutes later apply a thin film of 5% spironolactone. This is a very aggressive approach and could reverse your hair loss if you follow this regimen consistently. The azelaic acid in Xandrox can replace Revivogen. With the combination of azelaic acid and spironolactone, you should not need Propecia.

5% Xandrox is a combination of 5% minoxidil and 5% azelaic acid. Xandrox15 is a combination of 15% minoxidil and 5% azelaic acid.

Note, if you find that the topical as cosmetically unacceptable, then in the morning when you first get up, apply 5% Xandrox, wait an hour and then wash it off. One hour is sufficient to achieve most of the necessary absorption. At night apply Xandrox15 and spironolactone and leave them on all night.

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Well, that's it. I was kind of hoping he would have answered my original question.

 

[dis]

I followed up with Dr. Lee regarding the 1 hr time span for spironolactone and he said the following:

No it isn't enough time, but it may not be necessary to apply it twice a day if you are using Revivogen in the morning. In the morning use Revivogen. At night use Revivogen plus Spironolactone.

However you should add 5% minoxidil to your regimen both morning and night. The Regrowth 5% minoxidil formula is not greasy like Rogaine and it dries quickly.

Since minoxidil and azelaic acid in Xandrox or Revivogen treat male pattern baldness from two entirely different approaches, they are much more effective for male pattern baldness than Revivogen or spironolactone alone. The pharmacological effects of minoxidil plus azelaic acid or spironolactone or minoxidil plus both are additive.

Overall, ~70% of patients will report seeing new hair with Xandrox or minoxidil plus Revivogen, whereas ~50% report seeing new hair using Revivogen or spironolactone.

Richard Lee, M.D.