baldnesssadness
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a new factor in male pattern baldness?
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Vitamin D? Obviously not the vitamin pills. But still... hard to believe. Though it seems this is about regrowth of sleeping follicles. So what will stop them from dying again? I think if this can regrow a full head of hair and PSG2 or whatever can keep it. Then you have a nice win/win.
Sounds kind of far fetched I mean what results really is that going to get? How about instead of finding these things in isolation someone pieces together how this, PGD2, androgens, and the other factors all work together to cause hair loss and try to treat the root cause. 50 years from now men will be on 20 different FDA approved treatments to try to keep hair since each one targets some random different thing.
Sparky4444
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true enough -- what are the ALL the players in the game and describe what their role is at each stage of the hair growth cycle....It seems as though we're still learning that and discovering new players, but can't put it all together...
....no one can answer the question of why is there perfectly good hair follicles amidst a generally bald scalp...or why the horse-shoe pattern?? I mean, wtf??
..but...from what I read, this might be very beneficial for hair transplant's....and that is still the best hope right now ---- getting unlimited donor hair for hair transplant's...
waynakyo
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I read it and was going to post it.
First reaction: the journalist seems clueless (as usual) and said several things in an odd way/borderline misinformed the public.
Second reaction: I did not know that Vitamin D remain a hot topic. How does that bode with the PGD2 and other more recent stories ?
Third reaction: THere are too many idiots in this world. If you notice, the post has so many comments criticizing guys for wanting their hair back. This mostly comes from non-balding guy, or balding guys who are in denial, or balding guys who happen to look good with shaved head. This is important because the lack of public awareness of how devastating hairloss is for SOME people (but a small fraction of a very large group remains large) this is not something to be mocked. Today guys are doing their nails, laser surgeries, they're firming their skin, botox, and bunch of other stuff. I am talking about old married men too. Is it hard to understand the angst of people who are in their 20-30s who are slowly becoming disfigured, become old by a disease ? Isn't enough to know that so many people have isolated themselves and some commited suicide due to that ? There was a recent research I don't know where showing that while getting richer has a short-lived impact on someone's happiness, looking better (which typically happen through some surgery) has a permanent improvement effect in well being and happiness.
First reaction: the journalist seems clueless (as usual) and said several things in an odd way/borderline misinformed the public.
Second reaction: I did not know that Vitamin D remain a hot topic. How does that bode with the PGD2 and other more recent stories ?
Third reaction: THere are too many idiots in this world. If you notice, the post has so many comments criticizing guys for wanting their hair back. This mostly comes from non-balding guy, or balding guys who are in denial, or balding guys who happen to look good with shaved head. This is important because the lack of public awareness of how devastating hairloss is for SOME people (but a small fraction of a very large group remains large) this is not something to be mocked. Today guys are doing their nails, laser surgeries, they're firming their skin, botox, and bunch of other stuff. I am talking about old married men too. Is it hard to understand the angst of people who are in their 20-30s who are slowly becoming disfigured, become old by a disease ? Isn't enough to know that so many people have isolated themselves and some commited suicide due to that ? There was a recent research I don't know where showing that while getting richer has a short-lived impact on someone's happiness, looking better (which typically happen through some surgery) has a permanent improvement effect in well being and happiness.
squeegee
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LOL!!! Vitamin D.. seriously? OK.. why the female don't have this problem?
This is so dumb.. The internet is flooded of people in denial..LawOfThelema
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If you read on the researchers say taking ample vitamin D wont affect your hair loss. If anything it is localized metabolism of vitamin D. The vitamin D receptor is a therapeutic target for drug development. Having enough vitamin D in your system wont halt your hair loss.
baldnesssadness
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first dht..
then pgd2..
now vitamin d...
wtf is next?
then pgd2..
now vitamin d...
wtf is next?
odalbak
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While you're laughing, can you tell us exactly how you can regrow hair on bald spots once you'll have the perfect answer to inflammation?…
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Anyone who isn't already supplementing with Vitamin D doesn't understand its insanely important role in longevity and health. Its truly a big deal. And does far more than just help with healthy skin and nails. As for hair loss, who knows? Do some research on the myriads of deadly diseases it has been proven to prevent ....
If you arent getting sun daily to the tune of 15+ minutes, you should be supplementing 3000+ of Vitamin D per day. This is a well known medical fact.
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If you arent getting sun daily to the tune of 15+ minutes, you should be supplementing 3000+ of Vitamin D per day. This is a well known medical fact.
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squeegee
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Odalbak.. Been taking Vitamin D3 for years... sometimes 30 000 IU a day.. and still taking great amount per day..you need something way more powerful.. My ex GF had Chron's disease.. I have my fair share of knowledge about inflammation.. and D3 is not the answer that you looking for. LawoftheLema is right. Nothing internally will do **** radically with Vit D. Maybe less shedding.... some thicker hair but that is it.. The problem in hair loss is the environment not the hair itself.. There is calcification locally.. so cell adhesion and chronic inflammation.
The reason you dont read these kinds of news articles is this stuff is dumbed down for the average joe to get attention and page views. Its not as simple as take a vitamin everyday with this vitamin D in it or I think most men would never be bald. It quickly notes that its not the vitamin D there is more to it then just this as they clearly say right here.
"Don't get all excited and go buy a boatload of vitamin D, though. The advances in research have less to do with the presence of the nutrient that it does with how your body uses it."
It certainly seems like they are figuring out a lot of factors in male pattern baldness but I just worry that its a bunch of different things that they will never piece together to come up with a good solution verses a bunch of different treatments that each only address 1 specific thing.
"Don't get all excited and go buy a boatload of vitamin D, though. The advances in research have less to do with the presence of the nutrient that it does with how your body uses it."
It certainly seems like they are figuring out a lot of factors in male pattern baldness but I just worry that its a bunch of different things that they will never piece together to come up with a good solution verses a bunch of different treatments that each only address 1 specific thing.
waynakyo
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I have the same worry as you. It is starting to look like cancer. It very well might be, rooted in some "harmless" mutations, but not just one, 100s, and what we are uncovering so far are only pieces of the puzzle, or worse, symptoms.
You all have to admit that DHT is so far the only factor behind a theory (although incomplete) that stood the test of time.
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it seems like everything is implicated in male pattern baldness....for me, the bottom line is those follicles are ****ed...they need to be fixed...end of story....everything else is just a band-aid solution...that's why hair transplant's are the best option, if you have enough donor hair
I think there is pretty solid evidence that stopping androgens basically stops all hair loss. We just dont have a good safe way to do it and you need to stop nearly all androgens 100 percent to stop it propecia is not good enough. Not to mention your body adjusts which we dont understand yet why that it is.
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I think science is close to preventing hairloss, but regrowing full head of hair on a bald head is far far far away
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And what if those hairs will fall too?
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And what if those hairs will fall too?
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They need to come out with a growth simultant like minoxidil who isn't depandeble, or that comes in a pill version (there are minoxidil tablets but they are dengarous)
baldnesssadness
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http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2012/09/12/13829499-research-offers-new-hope-for-baldness-cure a better explanation
i really dont know what to say anymore about baldness, this is like bad joke nature is playing on us . No matter what we do we cant cure this
i really dont know what to say anymore about baldness, this is like bad joke nature is playing on us . No matter what we do we cant cure this
Sparky4444
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http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2012/09/12/13829499-research-offers-new-hope-for-baldness-cure a better explanation
i really dont know what to say anymore about baldness, this is like bad joke nature is playing on us . No matter what we do we cant cure this
This kind of thing is not warranted or welcomed...if you don't want to fight this, then go away and live a happy life being bald -- there are lots of people who are bald and they continue to live a happy life...
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...OK...this study is interesting and it makes me think...
...Sunlight is necessary for the human body to produce Vitamin D....Now --- here's where I expect to get flamed ---.....Lasers have definately shown to help with hairloss....I built my own laser helmet a few years ago and it DEFINATELY worked for quite a while...the problem is that it is a PAIN IN THE ***!!!....But let's look at this closer -- Lasers are basically monochromatic sunlight...we're directly bombing the follicles locally with lasers....
...get the point??
...so there must be a way to directly inject Vitamin D, or another substance that will elicit Vitamin D production locally at the follicle...
...what about liquid Vitamin D fused with a topical??? Add laser light and we might have something...