adderall xr - can it cause male pattern baldness or at least worsen it?

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i noticed that lately my hair kind of hurts to the touch. im not sure if its related to male pattern baldness, but i know concerta can cause male pattern baldness.


i saw this on the fda website. is alopecia male pattern baldness or is that meant to mean temp hair shedding?



[h=4]ADVERSE REACTIONS[/h][h=5]Adverse Reactions with the Use of Amphetamine, Adderall XR, or Adderall[/h]

  • [*=left]Central Nervous System-Psychotic episodes at recommended doses, overstimulation, restlessness, irritability, euphoria, dyskinesia, dysphoria, depression, tremor, tics, aggression, anger, logorrhea, dermatillomania.
    [*=left]Eye Disorders-Vision blurred, mydriasis
    [*=left]Gastrointestinal - Unpleasant taste, constipation, other gastrointestinal disturbances.
    [*=left]Skin- Alopecia.

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/ucm233812.htm
 

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I'm on Concerta/Ritalin so not exactly the same thing but I haven't noticed any increased hair fall from it, but everyone is different.
 

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I'm on Concerta/Ritalin so not exactly the same thing but I haven't noticed any increased hair fall from it, but everyone is different.
youre trans female as in you take hormones? if thats true i dont think your advice would apply to a non transexual male.
 

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youre trans female as in you take hormones? if thats true i dont think your advice would apply to a non transexual male.

Uhh why wouldn't my advice apply? We aren't talking about an issue of hormones here. Women can lose hair from those meds too. I'm not saying you can't be experiencing hair loss just because I'm not, I'm just saying that I've personally been on concerta for years and I don't think it has significantly affected my male pattern baldness. YMMV
 

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Uhh why wouldn't my advice apply? We aren't talking about an issue of hormones here. Women can lose hair from those meds too. I'm not saying you can't be experiencing hair loss just because I'm not, I'm just saying that I've personally been on concerta for years and I don't think it has significantly affected my male pattern baldness. YMMV

Because taking hormones to make yourself feminine... you can't argue that you're biologically female because you aren't and if you were it would still be very different. Women do not get male pattern baldness very often if ever..


Anyone else?
 

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Because taking hormones to make yourself feminine... you can't argue that you're biologically female because you aren't

Dude.. I literally never mentioned me being biologically female, ffs I didn't even mention my gender/sex at all... (because it's not relevant! and I'll explain why it's not relevant, but for real why are you even bringing this up???)

and if you were it would still be very different. Women do not get male pattern baldness very often if ever..

I'm not even going to go into just how wrong you are about that but you are severely underestimating how many women experience Androgenetic Alopecia I think...

Anyways, more on topic: you're assuming way too much about me. Who are you to tell me my opinion/experiences are irrelevant when you know so little about my story? I've been balding since I was like 16-17. I started concerta/ritalin at 19 with no noticeable increase in my Androgenetic Alopecia. I didn't start HRT until I was 22 going on 23. So for all intents and purposes my experience is very comparable/relevant to your interests considering I was not so different from a cis male (hormonally/genetically speaking) until very recently - me being trans has literally no relevance here (hence why I never brought it up :jackit:)

Additionally, the reason I said this isn't an issue of hormones is because those medications don't cause androgenic alopecia. The vast majority of medication-induced hair loss is telogen effluvium NOT androgenic alopecia. They don't mess with your hormones and cause what you would commonly call "male pattern baldness", so gender/biological sex is truly irrelevant to this discussion. That's what I was trying to say before you just wrote me off entirely.
 

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Dude.. I literally never mentioned me being biologically female, ffs I didn't even mention my gender/sex at all... (because it's not relevant! and I'll explain why it's not relevant, but for real why are you even bringing this up???)



I'm not even going to go into just how wrong you are about that but you are severely underestimating how many women experience Androgenetic Alopecia I think...

Anyways, more on topic: you're assuming way too much about me. Who are you to tell me my opinion/experiences are irrelevant when you know so little about my story? I've been balding since I was like 16-17. I started concerta/ritalin at 19 with no noticeable increase in my Androgenetic Alopecia. I didn't start HRT until I was 22 going on 23. So for all intents and purposes my experience is very comparable/relevant to your interests considering I was not so different from a cis male (hormonally/genetically speaking) until very recently - me being trans has literally no relevance here (hence why I never brought it up :jackit:)

Additionally, the reason I said this isn't an issue of hormones is because those medications don't cause androgenic alopecia. The vast majority of medication-induced hair loss is telogen effluvium NOT androgenic alopecia. They don't mess with your hormones and cause what you would commonly call "male pattern baldness", so gender/biological sex is truly irrelevant to this discussion. That's what I was trying to say before you just wrote me off entirely.
im not here to debate with you. i dont want your opinion. get over yourself.
 

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im not here to debate with you. i dont want your opinion.

Yeah to be frank I wish I hadn't shared it with you, you're an asshat and if the only reason you don't want me to help you by sharing my experiences is because I'm trans you're probably a weak minded transphobe too. You don't deserve my help.

get over yourself.

Ironic coming from you! :uglylol:
 

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I agree with you completely. The whole trans thing is a scam to make money of people, you have to be really ****ing stupid as a female to kill your hair. This trans guy should have just played dress up until her little wanting to be a man phase went away.

Dafuq? The ignorance in this post is truly astounding lol

My HRT meds cost me $0/month btw, if they're trying to scam my money they're doing a pretty piss poor job :)
 

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You're never going to be a man.

sorry to burst your little bubble, but i think recedingyt is trying to drift away from being a man, so you may have just slightly complemented him there.

anyways, you guys seem real immature to react to receding like that, if you dont want advice from him, just ignore the posts he writes no need to boost your ego off someone trying to help. Who comes on a hairloss forum to insult one? killerteddy u seem like a bigger pussy right now than anyone whos posted in this thread.
 

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You're never going to be a man.

Hahaha, aww thanks, I know! :) :gay:

I know you were trying to insult me, but you've only succeeded in simultaneously complimenting me and proving your ignorance.

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no need to boost your ego off someone trying to help. Who comes on a hairloss forum to insult one? killerteddy u seem like a bigger pussy right now than anyone whos posted in this thread.

Agreed. His masculinity must be incredibly fragile if my mere existence upsets him this much :D
 

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That's weird I had a whole post - was going to edit it to remove some so it was more concise.
I see only the blank white screen (text input box), and I guess what I wrote before was completely removed.

Anyways, yes there is a study of alopecia occurring in the administration of Vyvanse, Adderall, dexedrine, methylphenidate etc.

These are not the main effects they look for in publishing data. Also, there are many complaints from
forums such as bluelight.ru, addforums, psychemeds/forums, drug forums, medicine review sites like web md, etc.
I've known people to lose hair on these meds, men and women who never had lost before... But obviously that's a small sample size.

Anyways, complaining to a pharmacist - will elicit the response they've never heard of that, but its been complained about for sure and is in some of the drug inserts - methylphenidate or concerta (perhaps only in concerts or in ritalin and all formulations, who knows).

For me it caused Telogen Effluvium I am sure and maybe unmasked or greatly accelerated Pattern hair loss.
It has not worsened. Yet, it has not returned. Others have found this to occur as well. Some say its mostly their pattern loss, but those were people noticeably (to them) losing for years. Maybe would not occur had I had no genetics for hair loss (no one has zero genetics at all though for it).It's hard to say. Some may have Chronic T.E. but I am sure I had zero or maybe one semi-slick area ever, max in the very front. Two months after a 2-3 day trial (and tossing them), I had parts all over my hair.

I just saw a dermatologist who earlier removed a random cyst that I had, and asked them about propecia, told them I'm on S5 cream (unavailable here), and such. It was a good conversation. We talked about many drug effects. He said that Finasteride (perhaps the famous study) has side effects in 2/100 men, and it is short-lived. I hope that's true. Anyways not to hijack, just sharing some info.

I am sure (economically) businesses want to maximize profits, hence don't release all data, let alone pursue "all data" (not the same as outright faking). Also people don't know everything.
Psyche drugs have crazy side effects. And there is no possible way that everything comes down to too little dopamine or serotonin (when there are around a hundred or more neurotransmitters, and most of Serotonin is in the digestive tract -- not the brain anyways).

Drug companies serve to make money, whether it cures or effectively treats or is just a "bandaid" measure, just as doctors can't know every side effect that ever happens, and mileage varies person to person. That's not a conspiracy theory -- that economics (which in itself is flawed, but correct on that constrained optimization aspect - in "free" market economies and otherwise). Same with NAFTA, the WTO, etc -- it's selling an idea, a drug, a resolution --- and not telling all there is to the picture, Plus -- they have no idea... Hence why G.A.D. is dx, then ADHD, then years later schizophrenia or whatever.

If only T.E., for a person, it should come back... But may take years - maybe even 5-10 years for C.T.E. -- so whether they had male or female pattern loss or not -- still horrible effects to their happiness. Kids have lost hair on it too, Methylphenidate for sure.

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81633
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/534836-Adderall-and-Hair-Loss?highlight=adderall+hair+loss

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[/B][/COLOR] [URL="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2805578/"]Alopecia following initiation of lisdexamfetamine in a pediatric patient[/URL][/B]

 --Lisdexamfetamine is a "prodrug" to dexedrine, one of four salts (two are dextrotatory) that are in Adderall. Adderall XR has "more area under the curve" and affects blood flow to the scalp and elsewhere longer than dexedrine, supposedly. I believe its true. Dexedrine -- has just the part that is good.

Racemic amphetamine salts have more side effects (and often better "highs") because of the racey, speedy, effects of the isomers (left light polarizing or levarotatory) molecules that have more norepinephrine effects. Perhaps more NE, raises cortisol and Test as well, and maybe sensitivity. Whatever's going on I definitely shed more when on the ADD meds and with no spironolactone s5 cream (for a while). Though I've been on spironolactone 18-20 months or more. Shed more on adder all, but probably far less than the first time it happened (and it worked great that day _ I wrote a paper in 80 minutes). I can write about anything but that was actually a paper for someone else, for something I wasn't interested in -- and with no prep (I'm usually far behind in my own work)..... So too bad it caused that shed for me.Though I like dexedrine better for sure.


I just read the thread:
Recedingyt's comments about hair shedding more on Methylphenidate echo many worries of mom's that say their young son or daughter for that matter has lost hair on ritalin. Also, any drug can speed up things - I know surgeons that swear that they see more hair loss when they drink hard. I'm pretty sure I have at times, but I used to drink hardcore before any loss or around the time I was influenced by other confounding factors. Drugs are generally not good for you -- an oversimplification, but still.

Street amphetamines, crystal meth (much more potent obviously - its sort of like crack to cocaine or shooting cocaine compared to insufflation), have many young people with horrible hair loss. They're usually racemic. I'm fuzzy on chemistry - I switched out of science. Fk you labs.[/I]
 
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