Age For The Start Of Dht Production

[Spellbinder]

So I have a very interesting question here guys, and I want to discuss this with all of you, male pattern baldness sufferers. I have an interesting idea after recieving the answer . So at which age normally DHT is produced in the body by 5AR? Something like 15-17, am I right? Just when genitals start forming and the voice breaks and beard starts growing slowly? And also, there are a lot of controversy about DHT in the internet. some sources claim it is needed throughout entire life, some sources claim, that it's only needed in the transition age, while puberty to grow genitals, for the voice breaking etc. and is a trash hormone after that. So what is actually right? I know for people that are working out a lot it may be far more benefitial than a plain testosterone, but then again, reading peapoddy's story on the forum, he claimed to have just as much strength after taking finasteride or even more, so I am confused here.

Also another question. I found a site a while ago www.hairdx.com, which isn't working anymore. So basically it was a site, on which you could find a clinic, and they could tell you even before you exprerience male pattern baldness, that you are prone to it and you will definitely start balding in the future. Are there any more sites? Can this really be done through some kind of test?

 

[lickawrist]

yes dht levels start to rise accordingly with testosterone during puberty (this is because testosterone is one of the androgens that metabolize into dht). general consensus is that we can live fully functional lives w/o dht, however people on finasteride often report uncomfortable side effects. but i dont think thats the only question asked regarding finasteride. the human brain has a significant amount of 5ard expressions--we don't exactly know why and we don't know if there are negative repercussions for inhibiting them because they may play a part in mediating significant processes of the brain.

and regarding the site, i believe that gene testing is available and they are actually able to find the specific gene(s) that are often associated with male pattern baldness. i dont think its in the usa, but in some asian country...i forgot. ill google it and post it here if i come across it.

 

[Armando Jose]

DHT runing in the blood appears in the puberty,
but in Scalp Hairs DHT make its work when the pilosebaceous unit start to make sebum, and all childrens, both sexes, have sebum in the early infancy.

DHT is made from cholesterol in the vicinity of scalp hairs.

 

[Armando Jose]

Some studies
Measurement of Sebum Secretion Rates in Young Children
http://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(15)43581-X/abstract
Unusual cholesterol esters in the sebum of young children
http://www.jidonline.org/article/0022-202X(90)91299-Q/abstract

Yo have only know that sebaceous gland is 100% dependent from DHT. If exist sebum, exist DHT.

 

[Spellbinder]

Actually, you produce DHT as soon as you start/go through puberty. All of your secondary male
characteristics are created by DHT (facial hair, etc.).

And it is possible to start losing hair as soon as you go through puberty. Although, it's not likely.

@k9gatton So in other words it's only needed to form those characteristics and not needed later and becomes like a trash and only causes hair to thin if it's prone to it due to the genetic sensivity of the hair follicles?

 

[Spellbinder]

yes dht levels start to rise accordingly with testosterone during puberty (this is because testosterone is one of the androgens that metabolize into dht). general consensus is that we can live fully functional lives w/o dht, however people on finasteride often report uncomfortable side effects. but i dont think thats the only question asked regarding finasteride. the human brain has a significant amount of 5ard expressions--we don't exactly know why and we don't know if there are negative repercussions for inhibiting them because they may play a part in mediating significant processes of the brain.

and regarding the site, i believe that gene testing is available and they are actually able to find the specific gene(s) that are often associated with male pattern baldness. i dont think its in the usa, but in some asian country...i forgot. ill google it and post it here if i come across it.

@lickawrist Thanks

 

[nate30]

It's unlikely that such a thing as a "useless" hormone exists in nature. If DHT was no longer needed after puberty the body would have likely evolved to stop producing it after puberty. DHT is only part of the equation though, as 5ar serves more purpose that just converting T to DHT. Just several years ago a third type of 5ar was discovered, which finasteride also inhibits to some extent. Endocrinology is not yet a well understood field of medicine, so no one can truly give you a definitive answer on how useless or useful DHT is after puberty.