Alpecin... oh yes once again!

[Withnail]

Has anybody got anything to say about Alpecin?

Only at HLH people rave about this stuff!

I ordered a bottle because it's just £10 2 months ago. But I haven't used it yet!

Don't know whether I should because I'm also using AC peptides after shampoo (is mixing stuff up a good idea?)

For those who dont know it's a caffeine shampoo that you leave on your scalp for 2 minutes before washing off. apparently the caffeine absorbs the scalp and diminishes that lovely DHT (That we all so love!).

 

[Private Ryan]

i just started using it 3days ago. got to know this shampoo from a friend and he claim that Alpecin shampoo stopped his hair loss while stuffs like Proscar, minoxidil, HairMax laser comb, Nizoral etc etc are not doing anything for him.

anyway, £10 for a bottle is very expensive to me. in my country, this brand is not very well know. but we happen to have a distributor so it not hard to make a purchase. after conversion, i got it for $8.40 USD and the price you pay is $17.70 USD.

not sure about the AC peptides after shampoo issue. but you can try sending an Email to Alpecin for more answer.
mailto:[email protected]

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

i just started using it 3days ago. got to know this shampoo from a friend and he claim that Alpecin shampoo stopped his hair loss while stuffs like Proscar, minoxidil, HairMax laser comb, Nizoral etc etc are not doing anything for him.

Ask him to drop all his other treatments and use Alpecin then, and report back here in 12 months of just alpecin use. Lets see how he's doing then. I am willing to bet when he made this claim to you, he'd only been on it a week or a month at the most. Totally insufficient time to make any assessments about any treatment.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[Private Ryan]

i just started using it 3days ago. got to know this shampoo from a friend and he claim that Alpecin shampoo stopped his hair loss while stuffs like Proscar, minoxidil, HairMax laser comb, Nizoral etc etc are not doing anything for him.

Ask him to drop all his other treatments and use Alpecin then, and report back here in 12 months of just alpecin use. Lets see how he's doing then. I am willing to bet when he made this claim to you, he'd only been on it a week or a month at the most. Totally insufficient time to make any assessments about any treatment.

gourmetstylewellness.com

he just stopped using Proscar for slightly more than one week after 14months due to side effect. he have been using the shampoo for 4months and super zix routine for 2months. according to him, after using proscar for 10months the shedding continue. he added Alpecin shampoo and after a week or so, his hairloss seem to decrease alot and this continue for the past 4months.

of course, his result could be due to proscar kicking in on the 10months mark. the only way to tell which product is actually helping him is to wait another 4weeks. it might be the effect of both Alpecin and proscar or either one product. until then, we can only guess.

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

he added Alpecin shampoo and after a week or so, his hairloss seem to decrease alot and this continue for the past 4months.

Good sign. Lets see if it keeps up to the 1 year mark.

Lots of things can regrow hair or stop hair loss short term. This is why the FDA requires that hair loss trials are a minimum of 1 full year and preferrably two full years. Its the treatments that work long term that are considered useful. I know lots of guys who claim regrowth from things like Nioxin short term - 6 month or so - but none of them stuck with it after a year because results were short lived.

the only way to tell which product is actually helping him is to wait another 4weeks.

Technically the only way to tell would be to use nothing but Alpecin for 12 straight months and do hair counts. Even I think ive lost more hair than I have on some days, and gained more hair than I have on other days. Personal opinion is extremely subjective and your brain plays more tricks on you with "visual assessment" of your own hair loss than any other thing I've dealt with. I just simply don't trust my "minds eye" anymore when it comes to my hair.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[Private Ryan]

good point gourmetstylewellness.com. many products come and go. let see how long can the hype for Alpecin last.

 

[Withnail]

Thanks for the response guys.

I think i'm going to leave the Alpecin in the cupboard for now!

I was just interested in adding a shampoo with some oomph! as I'm allergic to Nizoral, it gives me dermatitis (crusty eyelids really are'nt pretty).

If people are still raving about Alpecin in a few more months I'll probably give it a shot!

 

[tray85]

Would you mind posting the ingredients for that shampoo. I can't seem to find an ingredient listing online.

Thanks,

-tray

 

[hair_tomorrow]

Would you mind posting the ingredients for that shampoo. I can't seem to find an ingredient listing online.

Thanks,

-tray

(per alpecin.com)

Ingredients:
Aqua, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Laureth-2, Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate, Sodium Lauroyl Glutamate, Sodium Chloride, Caffeine, Panthenol, Parfum, PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Menthol, Potassium Sorbate, Polyquaternium-7, Disodium EDTA, Sodium Benzoate, Niacinamide, Zinc PCA, Limonene, Tocopherol, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Sodium Hydroxide, CI 60730, CI 42090.

 

[powersam]

ive been using the alpecin shampoo every 3rd day and the after shampooo liquid every day, for probably 3 months now. as i dont really get sheds i cant tell you how it may or may not affect them, but it has definately decreased the oiliness of my hair, and has totally blown any signs of dandruff out of the water, the stuff even nizoral didnt get rid of. seems to have improved the quality of my scalp skin somewhat. as to hair regrowth etc, have to wait quite a bit longer before any definitive answer could be given

 

[JackWhite]

Guys, I have been on Alpecin 2 months now and all it has done is make me shed ike a dog and move about half a notch up the norwood scale. Considering I am not using, and never have, any other form of treatment I can only put it down to the Alpecin.

I have stopped use for now...what do you guys reckon? Continue or give up and search other alternative options?

 

[hair_tomorrow]

If it's doing you wrong - it's time to move on to something else. At least you can say you've tried.

 

[Aplunk1]

What the hell is Alpecin. Dude, stick to the proven treatments.

 

[michael barry]

Guys,
I emailed Alpecin about doing a longer (1 year) study at a German University like Jena or Hamburg. They gave me a response that went something "sure, were doing that right now" in so many words. I didnt believe any of it.

Alpecin had one study that took 600 hairs from various balding mens scalps and submitted them to a group with testosterone added, no testosterone added, testosterone and one unit of caffeine, and testosterone and 5 units of caffeine. I believe it took place at the Univ of Jena. The effects were that the caffeine with testosterone group grew about as well as the group with no testosterone. The company said it "protected the hairs" from testosterone's effects. Whether it inhibited DHT from being formed, was a growth stimulant, etc. wasnt even broached.

Whats the problem......STUDY ONLY TOOK PLACE FOR 6-10 DAYS. In vitro too.


Another company study (at Hamburg Univ I think) stated more or less that caffeine helped the skin retain a water layer and combatted ageing in the skin. This is not a suprise. Revlon uses caffeine in its "age-rewind" makeup and I expected that result. Green tea has caffeine, and its finding its way into soaps because of its rejuvanitive effects. This is a long way from growing hair though.


I wanna see a year long in vivo study. See if it regrows a little hair, or at least stops sheddding in men. Ive seen posts on sites saying its helpful, but it has zinc in it, which is a proven DHT inhibitor, and a buch of B vitamins, which are no doubt "good" for your hair. But this is a long way from proving its any more effective than crushing up zinc/b6 and applying it to your scalp (which AINT very effective long term).


The company's vapid little response to me sounded like a lie to my ears. Hey, gourmetstylewellness.com>......if youre listening. Can you email alpecin? Explain who you are, and ask where the studies are takin' place? Tell em' that they will sell units stateside if results are good, and they can explain WHY the product had efficacy? Bet you'll get the two-step from'em though.

 

[powersam]

i think sometimes people forget that hair is an extension of skin, and anything that helps skin health will most probably help the hair also. a french study ( was in menshealth) found that hairloss was due to thinning of the scalp. so caffeine could definately help hairloss.

still, i'm glad i'm on propecia as basically all my other treatments would be considered unproven/experimental.

 

[viperfish]

he added Alpecin shampoo and after a week or so, his hairloss seem to decrease alot and this continue for the past 4months.

Good sign. Lets see if it keeps up to the 1 year mark.

Lots of things can regrow hair or stop hair loss short term. This is why the FDA requires that hair loss trials are a minimum of 1 full year and preferrably two full years. Its the treatments that work long term that are considered useful. I know lots of guys who claim regrowth from things like Nioxin short term - 6 month or so - but none of them stuck with it after a year because results were short lived.

the only way to tell which product is actually helping him is to wait another 4weeks.

Technically the only way to tell would be to use nothing but Alpecin for 12 straight months and do hair counts. Even I think ive lost more hair than I have on some days, and gained more hair than I have on other days. Personal opinion is extremely subjective and your brain plays more tricks on you with "visual assessment" of your own hair loss than any other thing I've dealt with. I just simply don't trust my "minds eye" anymore when it comes to my hair.

gourmetstylewellness.com

Yes, these are all great points. However, this completely discredits revivogen and spironolactone both of which have never been proven to work long term. It especially discredits revivogen, whose ingredients have never been proven to work when 'mixed' all together. Even the ingredients within revivogen that have been 'somewhat' proven to work have been shown to work 'alone' and not in combination with everything else that is found within revivogen. I think it is somewhat unfair to discredit alpecin, but yet to support revivogen or spironolactone. I am not in support of alpecin, but felt that I chould chime in here.

 

[viperfish]

Guys,
I emailed Alpecin about doing a longer (1 year) study at a German University like Jena or Hamburg. They gave me a response that went something "sure, were doing that right now" in so many words. I didnt believe any of it.

Alpecin had one study that took 600 hairs from various balding mens scalps and submitted them to a group with testosterone added, no testosterone added, testosterone and one unit of caffeine, and testosterone and 5 units of caffeine. I believe it took place at the Univ of Jena. The effects were that the caffeine with testosterone group grew about as well as the group with no testosterone. The company said it "protected the hairs" from testosterone's effects. Whether it inhibited DHT from being formed, was a growth stimulant, etc. wasnt even broached.

Whats the problem......STUDY ONLY TOOK PLACE FOR 6-10 DAYS. In vitro too.


Another company study (at Hamburg Univ I think) stated more or less that caffeine helped the skin retain a water layer and combatted ageing in the skin. This is not a suprise. Revlon uses caffeine in its "age-rewind" makeup and I expected that result. Green tea has caffeine, and its finding its way into soaps because of its rejuvanitive effects. This is a long way from growing hair though.


I wanna see a year long in vivo study. See if it regrows a little hair, or at least stops sheddding in men. Ive seen posts on sites saying its helpful, but it has zinc in it, which is a proven DHT inhibitor, and a buch of B vitamins, which are no doubt "good" for your hair. But this is a long way from proving its any more effective than crushing up zinc/b6 and applying it to your scalp (which AINT very effective long term).


The company's vapid little response to me sounded like a lie to my ears. Hey, gourmetstylewellness.com>......if youre listening. Can you email alpecin? Explain who you are, and ask where the studies are takin' place? Tell em' that they will sell units stateside if results are good, and they can explain WHY the product had efficacy? Bet you'll get the two-step from'em though.

I'm sorry, but nothing is long term.................not even propecia...........

 

[science-jay]

gourmetstylewellness.com[/quote]

I think it is somewhat unfair to discredit alpecin, but yet to support revivogen or spironolactone. I am not in support of alpecin, but felt that I chould chime in here.[/quote]

good point viperfish! totally agree, altough there are a bit more related studies done on spironolactone than on any other non-proven treatment i think

 

[viperfish]

gourmetstylewellness.com

I think it is somewhat unfair to discredit alpecin, but yet to support revivogen or spironolactone. I am not in support of alpecin, but felt that I chould chime in here.[/quote]

good point viperfish! totally agree, altough there are a bit more related studies done on spironolactone than on any other non-proven treatment i think[/quote]

Oh yeah, I'm not saying that and agree.