another hyped up product comes to rest.

[jimmystanley]

looks like fluridil was overly hyped up (like the lasercomb) and we are seeing the new users drop like flies. it sorta comes in waves. i was thinking...even if you could tolerate fluridil...aren't anti androgens only mildly effective?

 

[Full Head of Hair]

I've been on Eucapil (fluridil) for around 3 weeks. I like the stuff so far and I haven't shed, so I will consider it a positive so far.

 

[Minox_Baby]

I've been on fluridil for over 3 months months along with finasteride. and I just don't see how this can be integrated into a long term regimen. After 3 months my scalp feels awful and I've had to take a rest from it. If they could find another vehicle instead of alcohol to deliver it then It might have been a 'killer' product.

 

[VWdude]

it prolly does f*** all for male pattern baldness.

 

[Full Head of Hair]

Sorry to hear that it really irritates your scalp. Before I got it I thought it would irritate mine as well. Turns out it doesn't.

 

[iamnaked]

This is the dreadful catch I suspect you have with topical anti androgens:
Too stable (e.g. flutamide):Systemic absorption issues = b**ch tits.
Too degradable (e.g. fluridil): Do f*** all.

 

[bluesmiley]

This is the dreadful catch I suspect you have with topical anti androgens:
Too stable (e.g. flutamide):Systemic absorption issues = b**ch tits.
Too degradable (e.g. fluridil)o f*** all.

I will say that the alcohol content of Eucapil is insanely high. Surely they could find a tamer delivery mechanism. Witha that said, I love the stuff. It cut my shed WAAAAYYYY down, and my scalp seems to tolerate the alcohol reasonably well. I just wished it worked as well for other folks here.

 

[bluesmiley]

looks like fluridil was overly hyped up (like the lasercomb) and we are seeing the new users drop like flies. it sorta comes in waves. i was thinking...even if you could tolerate fluridil...aren't anti androgens only mildly effective?

And, no, ideally anti-androgens would be THE WAY to combat hairloss.
I'm dubious that Propecia is the optimal way to combat hairloss.

 

[bluesmiley]

looks like fluridil was overly hyped up (like the lasercomb) and we are seeing the new users drop like flies. it sorta comes in waves. i was thinking...even if you could tolerate fluridil...aren't anti androgens only mildly effective?

And Jimmy, because you started the thread, it's worth asking, who are the new users dropping like flies?

I'm aware that you and Viper have quit using it. It might be helpful for other users if you can list people who have started using the product in the past 3 months and people who have QUIT using the product in the past 3 months, and for what reasons, if you know that sort've information.

Also helpful would be WHY they quit. Quitting because of extreme scalp irritation is a legitimate concern, so it would be helpful for people to know about.

Quitting because of ineffectiveness before the magic 6 month - 12 year mark is usually not a valid concern for hairloss products, but Eucapil DOES claim that there should be a drastic decrease in shedding after the month mark, so I think it's legitimate to list users who have taken the product for a month or so but continue shedding like dogs.

I'm aware that you probably don't have all this information documented, but if you know of any specific cases where users have abandoned Eucapil after being on it for a few months, it would be useful information to users.

Equally useful would be to list people who have proclaimed some level of success with it.

At this point my biggest concern is how it affects the quality of my "live" hair. That's a lot of alcohol to be putting on our hair day in and day out, so I'd like to know what long-term users are saying about that aspect.

 

[bluesmiley]

My list would be something like this:

Quit Eucapil
Viperfish: Used for a month or so (I think), reported decreased shedding, increasingly irritated scalp.

Jimmystanley: Used for a couple of weeks (I think), discontinued use because of yellow build-up/irritation

Minox_Baby: Used for 3 months, quit because of very bad effect on scalp.


Staying with Eucapil
Me - Used for 2 months (with Amashisho) and noticed drastic reduction of shedding after only two weeks. Still no shedding.

Full Head of Hair - Used for 3 weeks and has not noticed any shedding.



There are probably some other newer users out here that have reported and I missed 'em, or they're just not talking. Not sure which. But, Jimmy, if you know any I missed, feel free to add to my list.

 

[fritz96]

Well, in my case the good news is that there was little scalp irritation, and the itching went away. The bad news is that my shedding hasn't decreased. I've been on it 5 weeks and their web site says to expect results between 3-6 weeks, so I'll continue on. My male pattern baldness is aggressive, so I might just have to ride it out before expecting positive changes.

 

[Greg1]

looks like fluridil was overly hyped up (like the lasercomb) and we are seeing the new users drop like flies. it sorta comes in waves. i was thinking...even if you could tolerate fluridil...aren't anti androgens only mildly effective?

jimmystanley, I don't know but I think that is an unfair statement. IMO. You could say the same thing about minoxidil or any other product that helps to stop hairloss. I guess my question to you is why make a comparison?

 

[jimmystanley]

ya...i gots no proof..very true.

 

[viperfish]

If my scalp could hack it I would still be using Fluridil. However, this was not the case. By the way guys I have two unopened boxes and if anyone wants them I will give you a hell of a deal! I used it for 1 month and I think it did really help, but I have sensitive skin........so sh*t!

 

[bluesmiley]

If my scalp could hack it I would still be using Fluridil. However, this was not the case. By the way guys I have two unopened boxes and if anyone wants them I will give you a hell of a deal! I used it for 1 month and I think it did really help, but I have sensitive skin........so sh*t!

Yeah, viper, this stuff seems to be the real deal, but it's definitely had an effect on my scalp. I get periodic itching that I never got with Revivogen. However, I don't mind because it's reduced my shedding so much.

But I do wonder what effect it's having on my actual GOOD hair....I keep my hair short, so it's hard to tell how much it might be drying it out.

 

[jimmystanley]

my scalp has been getting better lately (getting rid of the seb derm with coal tar and sal acid shampoos) so i decided to apply some fluridil last night. i'm not giving up yet

 

[LittleHairMan]

The fact that people turn down a product can also be, because they haven't used it long enough. Maybe it is just me, but the longterm Fluridil users are mainly positive. People tend to forget that the hair growing phases take a very long time, so a lot of patient is needed. When you only use a product (Fluridil) for, say, two months, then of course you aren't going to notice anything (in general).

Fluridil has been tested under proper experimental and scientific conditions and that's why they could publish their results in respected dermatological magazines. Don't forget that their study took a whole year and people here are concluding things based on only two months!

 

[Bryan]

People tend to forget that the hair growing phases take a very long time, so a lot of patient is needed.

Patient patients are needed!

Bryan

 

[bluesmiley]

The fact that people turn down a product can also be, because they haven't used it long enough. Maybe it is just me, but the longterm Fluridil users are mainly positive. People tend to forget that the hair growing phases take a very long time, so a lot of patient is needed. When you only use a product (Fluridil) for, say, two months, then of course you aren't going to notice anything (in general).

If we're looking at the trials for guidance, I think it's reasonable to expect best results in terms of shedding to occur within 3 months. That's based on my interpretation of what the hairs' anagen/telogen ratio means in those trials.

Bryan something about Eucapil gets you in a wordplay mood. Last time you had some limerick with flutamide and fluridil going. :wink:

 

[mezzanine]

If my scalp could hack it I would still be using Fluridil. However, this was not the case. By the way guys I have two unopened boxes and if anyone wants them I will give you a hell of a deal! I used it for 1 month and I think it did really help, but I have sensitive skin........so sh*t!

If you're interested in working out something, let me know. PM me, or just respond here. I am in Ontario, Canada-

It's either this or spironolactone, because I just quit finasteride. I think there is some possibility that I developed Peyronie's disease as a result of finasteride over time...