Any CONCLUSIVE verdict on MinoxidilMax & MinoxidilSolutions?

[SMart]

Part of the problem with staying on the 'new' MinoxidilSolutions Xandrox15plus is that it doesn't seem that there will be any more of the product made in the future.

The fact that the website has basically vanished really is pushing me to jump ship ... the final bit of shadiness in a long line of events.

 

[Cassin]

I'm completely convinced Minoxidilmax is the best products we can get our hands on. I would drop them immediately if I didn't think so.

 

[Xandroxuser]

I'm completely convinced Minoxidilmax is the best products we can get our hands on. I would drop them immediately if I didn't think so.

Very helpful posts. Thank you SMart and Cassin. Cassin, I note you moved from Lee's 500 to Minoxidil.max equivalent. I take it you are still pleased enough with it.

Do you have a view on the Dualgen 15 (no PG)? Dr Lee would know doubt have said that their particular compound was not as 'effective' as his - if, effective at all. On another view, they just copied his formula - assuming it is not junk, that is., and are selling it cheaper. In any event, azeliac acid seems to have gone out of favour in more recent years.

I just want something to minimise the transition from Xandrox 15/15 plus. Maintenance is what I'm minimally trying for. The Rogane foam shredding stories scare me - as does some of the internet comment on Dualgen -15.

I just don't feel terribly comfortable when there is no trusted medic behind the operation. And their marketing techniques don't instil me with confidence. Just my view.

 

[Cassin]

I'm completely convinced Minoxidilmax is the best products we can get our hands on. I would drop them immediately if I didn't think so.

Very helpful posts. Thank you SMart and Cassin. Cassin, I note you moved from Lee's 500 to Minoxidil.max equivalent. I take it you are still pleased enough with it.
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Very much so.

Also I have chatted with a few people from the company and I feel comfortable with them. That is important to me and something I TRY to do with every company whose products I use . I have always been like that. I did it with the owner of this site when I was a standard poster.

No I have never tried their 15% but I have tried every type of 5% they have. I also feel like their PPG free dries much faster than DR Lees no PPG version.

If you feel worried about trying them which is something I am 100% supportive of as it is worrisome to try a new version for stuff like this, order from amazon.com. You'll be under their protection.

 

[Rocky V]

xandrox user,

if I were you I would quit xandrox all together. Many users have used minoxidil max and are content with it.

you can use the 5% in mornings and the 15% at night. I quit the xandrox after I heard the website was shut down.

 

[SMart]

Hey Rock,

Hows the Dualgen15 going for you? You on the PPG or non-PPG.

To be honest I'm probably gonna give this another try (and keep my hair shorter so the stickiness isn't as much of an issue); just seeking some reassurance really ...

 

[Alhairmist]

Can anybody comment more on dualgen-15 NO PG? It looks like a viable replacement for Xandrox-15. My scalp can not take any PG at all. I have been using Xandrox-15 for more than 5 years and really loved it. I hate to look for alternatives. I think i am going it give dualgen a try any way, although I dont feel very comfortable.

 

[Xandroxuser]

Can anybody comment more on dualgen-15 NO PG? It looks like a viable replacement for Xandrox-15. My scalp can not take any PG at all. I have been using Xandrox-15 for more than 5 years and really loved it. I hate to look for alternatives. I think i am going it give dualgen a try any way, although I dont feel very comfortable.

My apologies if it is inappropriate to refer to another male pattern baldness site - but if you look at 'the bald truth' thread - 'The Big Three', you will feel even less comfortable! I'm in the same positon as you in regards to Xandrox and non-pg.

 

[Cassin]

"My apologies if it is inappropriate to refer to another male pattern baldness site - "

No worries but thanks anyway for considering that!

 

[Rocky V]

Hey Rock,

Hows the Dualgen15 going for you? You on the PPG or non-PPG.

To be honest I'm probably gonna give this another try (and keep my hair shorter so the stickiness isn't as much of an issue); just seeking some reassurance really ...

I prefer it over any other minoxidil products out there. It worked for me.

If the stickiness is a problem then use it at night before going to bed

 

[Boomer01]

I have used DualGen-15 with and without PPG. The one with PPG is more sticky than the one without and makes your hair stiff. I used both at night so it wasn't a problem. I didn't have any scalp problems with either.

I've also been using the 5% fast dry and love it. It dries very fast and is a great replacement for Dr. Lees #500.

The company in general has been great to deal with. I've emailed them with problems or questions and they have gotten back to me quickly and were very helpful.

 

[Xandroxuser]

The company in general has been great to deal with. I've emailed them with problems or questions and they have gotten back to me quickly and were very helpful.[/quote]


According to the labeling Dualgen-15 'is enhanced with retinol'.

I understand that Dr Lee would not use retin-A in any minoxidil solution over 5% for fear of too much systemic absorption. Also, there are people who avoid Dualgen 15 because of the side effects associated with retin-a and 'retinol'.

I understand that 'retinol' might be just as dash of vitamin A, whereas retin-A is something altogether more potent. But I need 'expert' advice on this.

In a nut shell, we need to know how much 'retinol' is in the mixture and why?

 

[Xandroxuser]

Message re-posted without errors

 

[JWM]

I think putting retinol in there is a marketing gimmick. Same with the caffeine. Neither will be of much, if any, benefit--but it sounds good.

It would be nice if minoxidilMax just offered a 15% minoxidil product with just az. acid and nothing else (no caffeine or retinol).

They seem very organized and professional with good customer service. Maybe we could suggest such a product. No caffeine and retinol please

 

[Xandroxuser]

I think putting retinol in there is a marketing gimmick. Same with the caffeine. Neither will be of much, if any, benefit--but it sounds good.

It would be nice if minoxidilMax just offered a 15% minoxidil product with just az. acid and nothing else (no caffeine or retinol).

They seem very organized and professional with good customer service. Maybe we could suggest such a product. No caffeine and retinol please

My mistake. I was working from the a bottle of Dualgen-15 supplied in March 2011. I see the website for the 'new' Dualgen-15 says:

Minoxidil 15% (9 grams of minoxidil in each bottle; i.e., 150 mg/mL)
Azelaic acid 5% (3 grams of Azelaic acid in each bottle; i.e., 50 mg/mL)
Retinol 0.025% (0.25 mg/mL)
Caffeine 0.001% (0.01 mg/mL)
Ethanol
Glycerin

What I still don't know is how this amount of 'retinol' compares with Dr Lee's 'retin-A' which he said should not be put in minoxidil formulations over 5% because - in his view - this led to to too much minoxidil benig absorbed systemically. Also, of course, those after no PG have sensitive scalps. 'Retin-A' not a good idea for these guys.

 

[Xandroxuser]

I'm completely convinced Minoxidilmax is the best products we can get our hands on. I would drop them immediately if I didn't think so.

Cassin - as an experienced moderator, I would appreciate your view on a post like this - from Jungleboy 6/12/2011 on another forum:

'With the closing down of Dr Lee, who I used for several years and found him to be an excellant source of knowlwedge, and product quality, I am now shoppping for the latest technology in topicals. Especially interested in the frontal hairline.(im over 50 and still have a good mane) Has anyone had successful expereience with the "Topic summery" sources? It seems that Klein is the only one that has credentials but he dont come cheap. Proctor is just to exxpensive. The other 2 solutions have no medical background, will not disclose where their products are manufactured, and god only knows what really in these cute little bottles, that you are putting into your bloodstream, thru the scalp. ( I have already purchased 1 bottle from each of these very secretive companies), and am afraid to use them. I called and spoke to "David" at perfect image and he is 31 and says that he has a degree, or background in chemistry. He was very careful about giving out details, and refused to tell me where the formulations are made. He claimed it was so no competitors could find the place. Yet he claims it is a fda compliant facility. (I guess anyone can say that if you dont give out an address)
I have had several e-mail exchanges with Leslie Grace at Minoxidilmaxx and she said that the have a phd chemist on board, but no details on his name, ( does he exist?), and no clue on where this stuff is made. Im scared!! This stuff is going into our bodies. I think that Klein looks the best, anyone have any input on any of this?
thanks,
jungleboy,( fini, k-shampoo, xandrox 15% and 5%).

Alas, depressingly, jungleboy and other posters with similar profiles report losses since the demise of Dr Lee.

 

[Cassin]

Could you explain what this means "Topic summery" ?

 

[Xandroxuser]

Could you explain what this means "Topic summery" ?

Sorry, I can't. This is from a quote from another poster.

 

[Cassin]

I understand this guys concerns...nobody can blame him....I know I can't.

But also from the companies side there isn't a single company out there that is going to give you detailed answers about their product. It won't happen. Nor will any company give out private info on an employee. You have to be realistic here. And yeah...Dr Lee was great with replies but did he ever tell people where his products came from or how they were made? No. Its a weird situation for everyone.

You have to go with who and what you feel comfortable with! Most of these companies are in it to make money the honest way long term.

 

[Mars]

I recently started using MinoxidilMax 5% with no PPG. I found this product while searching for an alternative to Rogaine as my skin reacts very badly to it. I can't say for sure as i havent used it long enough but so far the results have been good. However, it seems like I am in trouble again. I went online today to order my new supply and it appears that they are nowhere to be found. They disappeared from eBay which is where I had initially bought it, Amazon doesn't have it anymore and their site is almost non-existent. Can anyone tell me where can I buy the Dualgen 5%? If you think I won't be able to buy it anymore, do you have any alternate solution that does not contain PPG.

Thanks!