Ive heard insulin is a factor in male pattern baldness, is there any way to keep it down to a minimum? and exactly how does insulin sky rocket? i would assume it would shoot out the skies if you intake something with excessive amounts of sugar but i dunno really. any answers are welcomed! :devil:
anyone know how to keep insuline levels in check?
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Err, I really doubt anyone can simply stop eating those kinda foods. Don't listen to that, I seriously think the diet stuff is bollo*ks, eat everything in moderation.
One way is exercise, exercise reduces your production of insulin and also reduces insulin resistance. Kids get taught in school here that the way to stave off type 2 diabetes is through exercise.
One way is exercise, exercise reduces your production of insulin and also reduces insulin resistance. Kids get taught in school here that the way to stave off type 2 diabetes is through exercise.
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For Insulin Resistance, you could try Chromium Picolinate or one of the many numerous pharaceuticals that have recently come out that modulate insulin receptor function. For insulin spikes, you're just going to have to ingest foods that do not allow spikes. It's not the glucose spike or even the insulin spike that gets you. It's the growth hormone and IGF-1 spike once your blood glucose starts to fall rapidly that is the most problematic.
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chino20 said:
You're wrong, I have stopped eating those foods and I know many others who have done the same and gained huge health benefits especially regarding various skin disorders. Those foods don't offer anything vital that you couldn't get from somewhere else, it's that simple. Infact, all of those foods are high on carbs and to make matters worse, it's HIGH-GI food which means they'll cause a fast insulin spike. Of course, you have a right to think it's nonsense, but I wouldn't do that with your knowledge on the subject. Exercise is naturally good, of course it is. That's common sense. Humans weren't made to lie around without doing anything.
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whitemogs said:
Just eat low Gi foods. You can buy a little handbook of foods and there GI rating at any good bookstore. Some Low Gi foods include, sweet potatoes, brown Rice, Oatmeal, Wholemeal pasta etc.
I had a lot of success on this diet in combination with my meds. Hair just looked healthier!
The best way to make your blood sugar sky rocket is by drinking simple sugars, gatorade is the perfect example (because thats what is designed to do) it contains only glucose and sucrose, the most simple form of carb, which does not need to be broken down and actually absorbs faster into the system than water! So its the ultimate insulin spiker.
The only time this form of drink is good, is after intense excercise as it restores glycongen stores in the muscles. People walking around with sports drinks who are not working out make me laugh, they think its good for them. No wonder they are fat!
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I don't think that sports drinks are necessary for those of us who are working out "normally". If you're a hardcore fitness fanatic or a professional athlete, that's a different case. Currently I'm drinking whey protein drink after exercise, it contains lots of amino acids which are good for the muscles. I usually get some carbs after workout but I get them from vegetables or fruits.
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Ive started drinking a cup of gatorade after my workouts, along with an apple, a protein shake and a table spoon of flaxseed oil. Man that stuff tastes like crap.
Well what I'm saying is that cutting out those foods entirely is a bit of an overreaction. You can get benefits from every food if you're eating it in moderation.
Anyway, if you've cut out those foods entirely, I'm interested in finding out what you eat instead, wouldn't it be a bit difficult to get enough calories in a day?
Anyway, if you've cut out those foods entirely, I'm interested in finding out what you eat instead, wouldn't it be a bit difficult to get enough calories in a day?
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chino20 said:
Are you serious?
That's very commendable for your education system to teach prevention.
I'd like to see it instituted in the States.
Some might construe is at "anti-free-trade" because we love our Fast Food... and to say it's bad for you... Well... that's not appreciated.
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chino20 said:
Lots of meat in different forms (chicken, pig, cow, fish, horse), proper cheese (~30 fat), lots of vegetables, eggs, cooking everything on extra virgin coconut oil or olive oil. All in all I'm getting the calories needed from fat instead of fast carbs. No low-fat products for me.
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Actually it can be done and it's much better for you. The problem with all refined carbs these days is they are loaded
with high-fructose corn syrup... that's what's fueling the obesity epidemic.
I've been almost "refined carb" free for about 6 years. My red meat intake is also about 10% of my protein.
Chicken or Fish only. The only carbs I eat are fruits and veggies. I do have an occasional greasy cheeseburger,
pasta or Mexican food but it's only a few times a year.
I had terrible acid reflux, ulcer type problems that even the prescription meds were not controlling. My doctor
suggested I give up all refined carbs and coffee (actually all caffeine). I went on a protein only, very low
carb diet and was totally off all the r/x meds within 3 months.
Since then I've stayed on a protein/fruit/veggie diet and I feel about 1000 times better. My body fat is
less than 13% and I have huge amounts of energy. Try it, you will not be sorry.
I dunno guys, I think maybe that type of diet is good for some people and bad for others. Myself I'm very thin, and find it extremely difficult to put on any weight at all, a diet like that I think would be damaging to someone like me, whereas if you're trying to get thinner or stay thin it would probably be helpful.
Yeah Aplunk they teach that over here in biology, do they not in america?
Yeah Aplunk they teach that over here in biology, do they not in america?
first of all, thanks guys really useful info, alot of these foods are hard to stop eating :tongue: for example, cereal would that be bad? a low sugar one maybe 10g of sugar per serving? now my next question is to Doctor, does chromium keep insulin lvls from spiking? ive been taking it for a while but now im wondering if it really does do that. :dunno:
1) Avoid things that contain fructose, especially high-fructose corn syrup. This is thought to indirectly induce insulin resistance by increasing uric acid levels to the point where uric acid switches from an antioxidant to a pro-oxidant and inhibits the insulin receptor. This has been related to the cause of type-2 diabetes.
2) Too fast absorbtion of carbs causes insulin levels to shoot up too fact. Ya want something such as fiber present to slow carb absortion. E.g., brown rice as opposed to white rice. Wheat bread instead of white bread, etc.
3) Exercise increases insulin sensitivity.
Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD
2) Too fast absorbtion of carbs causes insulin levels to shoot up too fact. Ya want something such as fiber present to slow carb absortion. E.g., brown rice as opposed to white rice. Wheat bread instead of white bread, etc.
3) Exercise increases insulin sensitivity.
Peter H. Proctor, PhD,MD
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whitemogs said:
Acetylcysteine for example can increase insulin sensivity.That is proven in PCO-S.The mechanisms are the same in male pattern baldness.Androgenes do block or downregulate the insulin receptor over ROS.Same for the IGF-1 receptor.Both peptides can crossreact whith the same receptor.So it is assumed that Acetylcysteine and maybe other antioxidants,can regulate the IGF-1 receptor absorbtion parallel to insulin absorbtion.
Insulin and IGF-1 are very important hair growth factors.Insulin and releated peptides are not the problem for aggravate baldness.The defect/blockaded receptor absorbtion is the problem.
The best way is in fact physical activity,maybe more better together whith antioxidants.
Tino
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Gymnema (pancreas beta cells)
Cinnamon polyphenols (increase the amount of insulin receptor b, glucose transporter 4, and anti-inflammatory protein tristetraprolin)
NAC (as mentioned)
Apple Polyphenols or Coffee Berry (reduce absorbtion and through anti-oxidant)
Olive Leaf Extract (insulin and glucose feedback mechanisms)
Fish Oil ie Omega-3 (signalling mechanism)
There are a few others but they will do simular things as the ones that I have mentioned, the ones listed are the best.
As for diet the less simple the carbs the better, also staying away from Hydrogenated oil. Soy bean oil, Canola oil, high amounts of saturated fat ie what is found in fast food ect.
Here is the glycimic index, print it out http://www.diabetesdigest.com/dd_nutrition2.htm
Check out the Zone diet, it is much more realistic and has a Nobel Prize behind it unlike other diets http://www.zonediet.com/
For exercise you are looking at Cardio (aerobic) and Weight lifting 6-10 reps (aerobic)
Also another interesting fact is that the earlier you go to bed ie 8:00pm-9:00pm the better your insulin response but it must be in absolute total dark where you sleep during the whole sleep period.
Finally get yourself a glucose monitor, they are easy to use and you can see how different food effect you ect
Cinnamon polyphenols (increase the amount of insulin receptor b, glucose transporter 4, and anti-inflammatory protein tristetraprolin)
NAC (as mentioned)
Apple Polyphenols or Coffee Berry (reduce absorbtion and through anti-oxidant)
Olive Leaf Extract (insulin and glucose feedback mechanisms)
Fish Oil ie Omega-3 (signalling mechanism)
There are a few others but they will do simular things as the ones that I have mentioned, the ones listed are the best.
As for diet the less simple the carbs the better, also staying away from Hydrogenated oil. Soy bean oil, Canola oil, high amounts of saturated fat ie what is found in fast food ect.
Here is the glycimic index, print it out http://www.diabetesdigest.com/dd_nutrition2.htm
Check out the Zone diet, it is much more realistic and has a Nobel Prize behind it unlike other diets http://www.zonediet.com/
For exercise you are looking at Cardio (aerobic) and Weight lifting 6-10 reps (aerobic)
Also another interesting fact is that the earlier you go to bed ie 8:00pm-9:00pm the better your insulin response but it must be in absolute total dark where you sleep during the whole sleep period.
Finally get yourself a glucose monitor, they are easy to use and you can see how different food effect you ect