Anyone Went Castration Route? Please Help

[Drox]

Im nw4 diffuse. Dutas doesnt help my hair. Im too young to lose my hair already. Anyone here take estradiol? will my penis get smaller? i dont care about getting manboobs ill get them removed. Feeling suicidal everyday.

 

[Ollie]

Im nw4 diffuse. Dutas doesnt help my hair. Im too young to lose my hair already. Anyone here take estradiol? will my penis get smaller? i dont care about getting manboobs ill get them removed. Feeling suicidal everyday.

How old are you ? If you're going to go down the Nuke route consult some of @IdealForehead 's routine...

Would never suggest f*****g up your hormones as dude to that extent just for a head of hair - might as well get yourself a pair of heels and a bra if you do.

 

[countjulian]

Im nw4 diffuse. Dutas doesnt help my hair. Im too young to lose my hair already. Anyone here take estradiol? will my penis get smaller? i dont care about getting manboobs ill get them removed. Feeling suicidal everyday.

How long have you been on dutas? What other treatments are you pursuing? You dontd want to go on Tranny drugs, you need to calm down. Being bald does suck but thinking irrationally will only put you in a deeper hole.

 

[Drox]

How old are you ? If you're going to go down the Nuke route consult some of @IdealForehead 's routine...

Would never suggest f*****g up your hormones as dude to that extent just for a head of hair - might as well get yourself a pair of heels and a bra if you do.

20..
whats the worse that could happened? some gyno and water retention ? ill get my gyno removed. I already ordered some estradiol and it will take some weeks to come. Im just wondering if my penis will shrink? Thats what im scared of. Maybe I should go topical route first and see? I will be getting bicaltumide too. My plan is bic then if it doesnt work, moving to estrogen. Estrogen is my last resort.

How long have you been on dutas? What other treatments are you pursuing? You dontd want to go on Tranny drugs, you need to calm down. Being bald does a ck but thinking irrationally will only put you in a deeper hole.

1+ year. And I want to say I tried ru58 because someone told me on looksmax. Nothing works. At this level by end of the year ill be nw6. I dont think my body responds to the dutas b/c that's what the looksmax people said.

 

[Ollie]

20..
whats the worse that could happened? some gyno and water retention ? ill get my gyno removed. I already ordered some estradiol and it will take some weeks to come. Im just wondering if my penis will shrink? Thats what im scared of. Maybe I should go topical route first and see? I will be getting bicaltumide too. My plan is bic then if it doesnt work, moving to estrogen. Estrogen is my last resort.

You start playing with oral estrogen and your whole appearance will change. You will literally start to look less like a man and more like a woman...

Water weight and Gyno would be the least of your worries i think

@Georgie might be able to give worthwhile advice here...

 

[Drox]

You start playing with oral estrogen and your whole appearance will change. You will literally start to look less like a man and more like a woman...

Water weight and Gyno would be the least of your worries i think

@Georgie might be able to give worthwhile advice here...

Ok i will wait for the advice thank you for talking to me. I dont know why that other man disliked my reply b/c I was just being honest.

 

[TONSofBODYHAIR]

Check bridgeburns post at success stories i think, dude went nuclear and got lots of regrowth, however im pretty sure it is absolutelly not safe to mess with estradiol for the sake of your own future

 

[FCKW36]

Take Finasterid, often it works better than Dutasteride.

 

[itsjustsimon]

Take Finasterid, often it works better than Dutasteride.

No it’s not. We have studies for this

 

[itsjustsimon]

You need to know that tranny route is in no way long term solution. Have you tried seti or maybe daro? How long have you’ve been on RU? Did you measured your serum DHT levels on duta? Did you maintain or lost your hair on duta? What about minoxidil? Oral is very dangerous, but still better than tranny route ihmo...

 

[itsjustsimon]

If he becomes a tranny at least he can bang any gender without much effort. Oral minoxidil will give him heart problems. Anyone who destroys their health over few follicles has deep psychological issues and needs therapy.

Just for a reference, what Norwood are you?

 

[itsjustsimon]

If he becomes a tranny at least he can bang any gender without much effort. Oral minoxidil will give him heart problems. Anyone who destroys their health over few follicles has deep psychological issues and needs therapy.

Oral minoxidil will also stop working after a while. If you can’t address the main issue (androgens) than it’s not going to help you in the long run anyway

 

[itsjustsimon]

NW5. Lost hair since 15. Hair piece at 19. Dermatitis from the adhesives since 22. Secondary hypogonadism (low LH and FSH) since 20. Thyroid problems since 15, Tyrosint every morning since then. About to start HCG and possibly TRT later on. Penis issue since I was a kid, hide it from my mother, had to ditch all my gfs because of it. Had circumsition at 16 while my gf at the time wanted to suck me dry. Went from 20cm to 17 because the Doctor cut too much skin off and tissue became more firm. Hair loss led me to pretty much miss chances with girls I knew that now work on model agencies and/or abroad. I met no father, he left me when I was born. My thyroid issues made me collapse at last year on high school and i did not pass to any university while having perfect grades until that time. My best friend from school stabbed me in the back and played me when I wore a hair piece from extended bullying by others (and being made fun of is always on me because if it did not get under my skin and if I did something about it, it would go away). Found new gf and love for gymnastics, went the bodybuilding route at 22, split my abs at 23 and spent 3 years recovering fully without surgery up to this day but unable to have sex properly due to core instability (long story). How is that for reference?

Wow man, this reads like a movie script. Hope you’re fine now.

I was just curious how did you accept hairloss, that’s all.

 

[itsjustsimon]

I didn’t. There is always a small part in me that will never accept it. But hell, buzzed it for few months and it’s normal for me now. Also my face is rated high or like idiots here call “chad”. I’ve bumped two guys once who said to one another “ewww look at that guy” while crossing. And a girl who’s a lawyer dressed in black, fit, elegant, called me hun and made the first move again randomly near a cafe I was in. Now you tell me, what do I make of this? What do I rate myself and what’s the stereotypical bs? Answer: there isn’t any. The world is chaotic, there are no rules. One thing is certain and that is sociable = higher chances of being and finding whatever the hell is that makes you happy. But yes, you do accept hair loss, to answer your question. Eventually you do, other things come to play. That’s why it’s so stupid to take drugs that you know are rendered useless eventually. I’m not saying it’s easy to give up. But everyone does, in the end.

Still if I had an attractive face I wouldn’t take it so seriously but dude I’m no Chad and it’s game over for me if I go bald. And it’s not just dating, I just miss a f*****g feeling of being secure with myself and being confident in my own skin. But yeah you have a great perspective on some things.

 

[Endmymisery]

NW5. Lost hair since 15. Hair piece at 19. Dermatitis from the adhesives since 22. Secondary hypogonadism (low LH and FSH) since 20. Thyroid problems since 15, Tyrosint every morning since then. About to start HCG and possibly TRT later on. Penis issue since I was a kid, hide it from my mother, had to ditch all my gfs because of it. Had circumsition at 16 while my gf at the time wanted to suck me dry. Went from 20cm to 17 because the Doctor cut too much skin off and tissue became more firm. Hair loss led me to pretty much miss chances with girls I knew that now work on model agencies and/or abroad. I met no father, he left me when I was born. My thyroid issues made me collapse at last year on high school and i did not pass to any university while having perfect grades until that time. My best friend from school stabbed me in the back and played me when I wore a hair piece from extended bullying by others (and being made fun of is always on me because if it did not get under my skin and if I did something about it, it would go away). Found new gf and love for gymnastics, went the bodybuilding route at 22, split my abs at 23 and spent 3 years recovering fully without surgery up to this day but unable to have sex properly due to core instability (long story). How is that for reference?

"penis problems since a kid" has a way above average dick size lol.... The rest of the story is pretty sad tho, hopefully you're still pulling girls.

 

[Kornel]

I tried ... it didn't help at all ... it even made hair loss worse ...
So be careful.

What exactly did you try?

 

[itchymadscalp]

What exactly did you try?

Since 2009 I was at Dutasteride 2 pills a day
First Spironolactone 100 and 200mg ... it worked at first but after 3 months it was like I was not taking anything.
I tried Bicalutamide for almost 3 months. My itchy scalp came back in a vengeance (I lowered Dutasteride to 1 pill a day instead of 2).
Then ... Cyproterone 12.5mg (my testosterone was under female ranges) + Estradiol 4mg (Progynova) and Estrogel (on the scalp).
I stopped Cyproterone after 4 (?) months ... my itchy scalp was insane, it was useless.
No I'm back on Dutasteride 2 pills a day ... itchy scalp is still here. I have acne, high libido, and more body hair. And of course hair loss is winning over me (above the ears and and the top of the head).

 

[abcdefg]

Im nw4 diffuse. Dutas doesnt help my hair. Im too young to lose my hair already. Anyone here take estradiol? will my penis get smaller? i dont care about getting manboobs ill get them removed. Feeling suicidal everyday.

You do realize castration doesnt regrow hair right? You could take dutasteride, oral spironolactone, and the most powerful AR blocker that exists, and you couldnt expect much more then simply maintenance. Removing androgens doesnt regrow hair generally

 

[Razor of Damocles]

Since 2009 I was at Dutasteride 2 pills a day
First Spironolactone 100 and 200mg ... it worked at first but after 3 months it was like I was not taking anything.
I tried Bicalutamide for almost 3 months. My itchy scalp came back in a vengeance (I lowered Dutasteride to 1 pill a day instead of 2).
Then ... Cyproterone 12.5mg (my testosterone was under female ranges) + Estradiol 4mg (Progynova) and Estrogel (on the scalp).
I stopped Cyproterone after 4 (?) months ... my itchy scalp was insane, it was useless.
No I'm back on Dutasteride 2 pills a day ... itchy scalp is still here. I have acne, high libido, and more body hair. And of course hair loss is winning over me (above the ears and and the top of the head).

What in castration?
Seriously though that's insane. No one should ever lose hair on that regime. You've had biopsies and the like?
I'm beginning to think that there might be some people who have AR splice variants in the follicles. There's one in the prostate called AR-V7 that doesn't need a ligand to be active. Associated with castration resistant prostate cancer. Prostate and hair are different obviously, and the presence in one doesn't mean it's in the other.
Also sorry for the situation, that's really shitty.

 

[rclark]

Castration is awesome. You should try it.

It turned me into WP!