Article: Wheat and hairloss......kinda interesting

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http://www.hairloss-research.org/LinkUp ... n1-10.html







Wheat Consumption Linked to Hair Loss




We have been largely programmed to believe that grains, especially whole grains are nothing but good for us. As with much accepted dogma, this is actually a half, or less than a half truth. There are certain grains that are healthful, such as quinoa, millet and buckwheat. There are a handful of others, unfortunately those most widely consumed in Western culture, (which statistically has the highest incidence of obesity and male pattern baldness) that are problematic for both health and hair, even in their “whole†forms. These are wheat, barley, rye, and oats (due to processing cross contamination from wheat).

The reason for this is the presence of Gluten, a composite of the proteins gliadin and glutenin, which causes a largely unknown adverse immune system response in many, manifesting as a plethora of symptoms from inflammation to allergies, chronic fatigue, depression etc.

So what does this have to do with hair loss, you ask???

The answer has to do with a disorder known as Poly Cystic Ovary Syndrome,(PCOS) a syndrome diagnosed in women, which has numerous associated endocrine abnormalities, and most notably hirsutism (body hair growth), Androgenetic hair loss and Insulin Resistance.

Research is now suggesting the existence of a widespread male equivalent of PCOS, that results from the interaction of several key genes and dietary/environmental factors.

Insulin resistance, one of the primary manifestations of PCOS, results in high Androgens in women and high estrogens and DHT in men.

Elevated estrogen in men increases DHT and contrary to urban legend, it has been established that men with male pattern baldness have lower testosterone than non-balding controls .

Treating insulin resistance in men normalizes the abnormally high DHT/T ratio and low T/estrogen ratio.

A review of the literature interestingly reveals that 87% of those with PCOS are sensitive or allergic to some degree, to wheat gluten. Eating wheat under these conditions wreaks havoc on insulin management, creating an ongoing elevation of serum glucose and insulin. Additionally, wheat consumption can increase free radicals and diminish the absorption of nutrients, predisposing to potential deficiecy states and health,(and yes, hair problems).

While it is unlikely that halting wheat consumption will cure baldness it could certainly aid in that process. We have received several anecdotal reports over the years from women (some NOT diagnosed with PCOS) who, on our advice, stopped wheat consumption, and within days, reported a dramatic decrease in shedding. Given the existence of a male genetic correlate to this disorder, it is likely that cutting out wheat could contribute significantly to the hair loss treatment process in both genders.

Low concentrations of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) is also a very frequent finding in women and men with PCOS.

It has been conclusively shown that young men with male pattern baldness have significantly lower levels of SHBG compared to controls.

SHBG can be healthily and readily elevated with the use of Green Tea Extract, which is a superstar in dealing with insulin management issues. Using Green Tea with Soy or Black Tea Extracts have also been shown to lower serum DHT more than Proscar/Propecia in animal models.



The Existence of a Male Equivalent of the Polycystic Ovary Syndrome – the Present State of the Issue

Dušková M., Stárka L.
Institute of Endocrinology Prague, Czech Republic
Abstract: The polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) in women belongs to the most frequent endocrinopathies. This syndrome is characteristic by a hormonal and metabolic imbalance. It seems to be a kind of an oligogenic disease resulting from the interaction among several key genes and environmental effects. Considering the genetic basis of this syndrome there is no reason why the syndrome could not occur in men as well, be it with a different symptomatic expression. Premature baldness before the age of thirty used to be suggested as a symptom of the male PCOS equivalent. Yet there still seems to be rather a meagre attention devoted to the endocrinological changes in men in the specialised literature, although there do exist genealogical studies on the occurrence of alopecia or glucose metabolic disorder in male members of the families where a considerable number of females were affected by PCOS.

Table 1 – Increased risk of various diseases in males with androgen alopecia
Disease odds ratio 95% reliability range reference
Benign prostate hyperplasia 3.23 1.81–5.79 Oh et al. 1998
Prostate gland carcinoma 1.50* 1.12–2.00 Hawk et al. 2000
Ischemic heart disease 1.36 1.11–1.67 Lotufo et al. 2000
Hyperinsulinemia 1.91 1.02–3.56 Matilainen et al. 2000
Obesity 2.90 1.76–4.79 Matilainen et al. 2000
Hypertension 2.09 1.14–3.82 Matilainen et al. 2000
Dyslipidemia 4.45* 1.74–11.34 Matilainen et al. 2000
*relative risk
 

Fender89

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dude this line is complete BS

"Elevated estrogen in men increases DHT and contrary to urban legend, it has been established that men with male pattern baldness have lower testosterone than non-balding controls!"

that is ridiculous lol. It's all about genetic sensitivity that's all.
 

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Fender89 said:
dude this line is complete BS

"Elevated estrogen in men increases DHT and contrary to urban legend, it has been established that men with male pattern baldness have lower testosterone than non-balding controls!"

that is ridiculous lol. It's all about genetic sensitivity that's all.


Can anyone confirm that bald(ing) men have lower levels of testosterone?
 

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some say bald people have higher T levels but that just a myth created to make them feel better about themselves . I agree with Fender89 .
if you measure T levels of a balding man and a non balding man it would pretty much be the same.
 

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michael barry said:
http://www.hairloss-research.org/LinkUpdateWheatConsumption1-10.html

"Elevated estrogen in men increases DHT and contrary to urban legend, it has been established that men with male pattern baldness have lower testosterone than non-balding controls ."

Wouldn't it be fun if we could force those jackasses at male pattern baldness Research to try to prove the claims they make? :)
 

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Casein (the main protein in milk and cheese) also has the same effects as gluten, but it is much more powerful. Hero T. Colin Campbell says that casein is the most commonly consumed carcinogen. Casein increases IGF-1 and decreases SHBG. Also it is interesting to not that if you mix green tea and milk, the casein protein prevents the absorption of EGCG; the main antioxidant polyphenol in green tea!
 

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I'd like to point out that I just posted the article and said that it was "interesting", I didn't say it was a new paradigm in dermatology. :)


I agree with Bryan about male pattern baldness-research. They have some pretty neat information, but they often don't really back up some of their more extraneous claims with human data. Not everything that has a certain effect on a rodent is going to translate directly to a human being. We are a little different although both are mammals.


I'd also like to point out that wheat (bread, pasta) has not been consumed by humans for all that long. We didn't always know how to pound wheat into flour, add water too it, burn it and see bread dough rise out of it. Its only been in the human diet for <10,000 years. We probably haven't been drinking cow milk all that long either. For most of human pre-history our diets were composed of fish, meat from animals we killed, above-the-ground fruits, nuts, berries, and some tubers. We used to eat quite differently than today. An ancient roman meal might have some really oddball (to our tastes) stuff in it like robin's eggs, snails, etc. A lot of tribes eat bugs and locusts. What genes get upregulated in expression in response to modern processed foods and by just how much is interesting to speculate upon. Consider this though......Ive read that during the recovery period from gingivitis, a mouth-oriented malady, the gene expression of roughly 9,000 different genes (out of approximately 30-35,000 genes that you have) are altered. About 5 different genes are implicated so far in Male Pattern Baldness. There may be a couple of more. Its not known. If one or two of these genes expression is altered by diet, it may be a good thing for your male pattern baldness.......or not. Only a double-blind, placebo controlled experiment with large enough numbers of participants could seek to find out. Its interesting to speculate however, and thats what this particular board (new reasearch and discoveries) is about.
 

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Mister E,

Many people who are gluten intolerant (celiac disease---like Elizabeth Hasselback) also become casein intolerant. The two molecules are extremely similar, and when the immune system becomes sensitive to one, it often will become sensitive to the other over time. Celiac disease is so common in Finland, that the McDonald's resturaunts there serve gluten-free buns (made out of God-only-knows-what, but still). Lots of Irish people, and certain northern Italians are gluten-intolerant immunologically. Quite a few black folks are lactose-intolerant and dont drink milk.

I was shocked to read just how many food allergies there are. Some folks cant eat peanuts (and literally can get death-bed sick by doing so). Some people cant eat berries (espeically cherries). Soy gives some folks problems, rice-allergies are present in some Asian populations. Interesting stuff to contemplate.
 

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michael barry said:
I agree with Bryan about male pattern baldness-research. They have some pretty neat information, but they often don't really back up some of their more extraneous claims with human data. Not everything that has a certain effect on a rodent is going to translate directly to a human being. We are a little different although both are mammals.

male pattern baldness Research for YEARS has posted the same kind of hysterical anti-estrogen nonsense that misterE spews all the time (you can see my posts confronting them on that, going all the back to alt.baldspot), and I suspect that's where he's been getting a lot of this garbage.
 

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I love hairloss-research...It's my favorite website in regards to hair loss, and the most informative too. To Anyone reading this post; you should check out this web-site, it is full of informative alternative thinking in regards to hairloss...not just the old "DHT is bad" mindset.

http://www.hairloss-research.org/
 

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misterE said:
I love hairloss-research...It's my favorite website in regards to hair loss...

WOW!! Am I good, or what?? :)
 

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Shill
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A shill is person who is paid to help another person or organization to sell goods or services. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic customer. The person or group that hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant is also used. The term is also used to describe a person who is paid to help a political party or other advocacy organization to gain adherents; as with the situation of selling goods or services, the shill gives the impression of being unrelated to the group in question, and gives the impression that he or she finds merit in the ideological claims of the political party.
Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions[1] because of the frequently fraudulent and damaging character of their actions. However, if a shill does not place uninformed parties at a risk of loss, but merely generates "buzz", the shill's actions may be legal. For example, a person planted in an audience to laugh and applaud when desired (see claque), or to participate in on-stage activities as a "random member of the audience", is a type of legal shill.
"Shill" can also be used pejoratively to describe a critic who appears either all-too-eager to heap glowing praise upon mediocre offerings, or who acts as an apologist for glaring flaws. In this sense, they would be an implicit "shill" for the industry at large, possibly because their income is tied to its prosperity. The origin of the term shill is uncertain; it may be an abbreviation of the Yiddish shillaber. The word originally denoted a carnival worker who pretended to be a member of the audience in an attempt to elicit interest in an attraction. Some sources trace the usage only back to 1914.[2][3]



Yes, I believe you used the correct term.
 

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Bryan said:
male pattern baldness Research for YEARS has posted the same kind of hysterical anti-estrogen nonsense that misterE spews all the time (you can see my posts confronting them on that, going all the back to alt.baldspot), and I suspect that's where he's been getting a lot of this garbage.

I'm not taking sides at all, but how is this in anyway conducive to the thread? If anything, was it not Bryan who ironically took this thread to "estrogen nonsense"? I don't recall anyone mentioning it before that.....

I think there is a place for progressive thoughts that dwell outside the realm of "fda approved tests".... oh wait, we're in it. Its called "new treatments, studies, and discoveries".

surely the questioning of the validity of the study is legit. no problem there. But lets drop the personal grudges and keep it constructive....

my two cents: i used to have terrible seborheic dermatitis. tried every possible FDA approved medicine combination out there. Tried it for years and things would get better for a month, then even worse shortly after. Finally I changed my diet (not getting into the details) and it dissapeared. and its hasn't come back in two years. I'm hard pressed to find any legit studies that support my experiences, however it worked for me and many others as well.

long story short, I'm not at all opposed to the concept of diet changes at least HELPING hair loss. Not curing, but helping. How much remains to be determined...

personally, I am slowly gravitating towards a gluten free, dairy free lifestyle. I have already cut down on meat (still working on it) although I plan on keeping fish in my diet.
 

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I just can't take anybody seriously who claims Bryan is a corporate schill. It's like you're talking to someone who sounds compelling, and all of a sudden they say "Oh by the way, 9/11 was a conspiracy by Bush." Instant credibility loss.
 

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guitar66 said:
Bryan said:
male pattern baldness Research for YEARS has posted the same kind of hysterical anti-estrogen nonsense that misterE spews all the time (you can see my posts confronting them on that, going all the back to alt.baldspot), and I suspect that's where he's been getting a lot of this garbage.

I'm not taking sides at all, but how is this in anyway conducive to the thread?

You don't think it's conducive to this thread for me to point out factual errors that keep getting posted here? Sorry, but you better get used to it.

guitar66 said:
If anything, was it not Bryan who ironically took this thread to "estrogen nonsense"? I don't recall anyone mentioning it before that...

What's your point?

guitar66 said:
surely the questioning of the validity of the study is legit. no problem there. But lets drop the personal grudges and keep it constructive....

What study are you referring to?
 

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I will add to this that after having some bad reactions to overdosing on pizzas many times over a year or two (damned gradschool), I was convinced that I was having some sort of bad reaction related to the cheese on the pizzas as my father is lactose intolerant and so I just figured that was the cause. After cutting dairy out of my diet for around 6 months I was still having problems and every month or so during that when I would be daring and get some sour cream on my burritos I would suffer no adverse effects.

Meanwhile I started to notice that whenever I would consume large amounts of pasta dishes or bread (I was in the middle of mastering baking), I would suffer the same sorts of ill effects that had occurred from my pizza overdoses. I work in food and am a beer connoisseur so the concept of having averse reactions to wheat was something I always thought would be one of the worst afflictions in the world. I slowly regrettably (at the time) decided to attempt a gluten-free diet even though if my suspicions turned out to be right I knew it would severely impact my career since the first rule of good cooking is to eat everything.

My first attempt was a bit rocky and I wasn't sure anything different was going on but I did notice how amazingly difficult it was to avoid gluten altogether. On the seventh night of the gluten-free diet I had amazing difficulties getting to sleep due to strange sensations in my face that manifested themselves in my sinuses unclogging for the first time. ever. As long as I can remember I have had chronic sinusitis which had been blamed on a number of different items whose removal did nothing to improve my condition. At the time I was so severely excited about the change that I forgot completely about the diet I was on and didn't draw the connection.

The next night I went out clubbing with a friend of mine and out of habit accepted the first beer offered to me, as well as the second and third before recalling that I was supposed to avoid this liquid barley. As the night went on I started to feel slightly ill and my sinuses resumed their regular full-stuffed position and my energy quickly drained. Still I wasn't attributing any of this to the diet and as I was drinking the beer I thought how nothing that tastes so good could be too bad for you and decided to drop the gluten-free experiment, going back to getting a large number of calories from "healthy" items like oatmeal, breads and pasta.

As I went back on a gluten-full diet I noticed an increase in inflammation not only along my mucous linings but also on my scalp and skin. Still not wanting to connect the dots I did nothing for about a months time until after having a late dinner of beer and a super hearty bread (dear god it was delicious bread though) I almost blacked out after most of the alcohol had already been processed out of my body.

Reluctantly I finally decided to give away my remaining collection of specialty beers and go gluten-free once again. This is a recent decision however and I am only on week 2 of this change but already my scalp inflammation has dissipated to almost nonexistent levels, my sinuses are doing better and I am actually gaining weight for the second time only in my adulthood (the first being a short time in undergrad when I was consuming almost all of my calories from pork and dairy products while also not consuming alcohol in order to improve my hobby at the time of cage-fighting).

I can not attest to any hormonal changes to occur recently as a result of my dietary change as suggested partly by this article but I have slowly experienced increase drive, alertness, assertiveness as well as increased motor control and a lot more energy during workouts; granted these all could just be placebo effects however they are all effects of higher testosterone in individuals.

To anyone who says diet has absolutely no effect on any area of health I would say "You are amazingly ignorant for not considering how the chemicals we put into our body every single day effect every molecule of our constantly rebuilding body. These are the actual molecules we are using to constantly build the new us and if things aren't all right then one out of place piece can cause a cascade of effects." In the past decade there have been many studies to show long term harmful effects of untreated wheat/gluten sensitivities on multiple organs of the body including the liver, pancreas, intestine, heart, brain, skin and yes even hair.

To those who say diet is the be all and end all of your hairloss I would say "You're just as ignorant as the detractors You can't feed a dog bird seed and expect it to learn how to fly."

To anyone slightly curious about dietary wheat problems, give it a try. The current testing methods for sensitivities are not very reliable and the only way to truly find out if this is something effecting you is to attempt to go gluten-free for at least 2 weeks and then introduce it back into your diet in an attempt to observe any adverse reactions.

Edit: my comments are not directed at anyone in particular as I simply don't know anyone's posting habits well enough on this board to actually make an informed judgement of anyone's actual stance
 
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