Attention Deficit Disorder and hairloss

[scientist]

i think i've had some form of ADD or ADHD for most of my life, it seems to be getting progressively worse. my mind is hyperactive. i was curious if anyone else here has ADD and hairloss, and how you deal with it?

i was thinking that if your brain is hyperactive it might consume a greater percentage of the blood that goes to the head, so less goes to the scalp. i'm sure the stress isn't good for hair growth either. any thoughts or experiences?

thanks


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[JayB]

HAHAHAHAHA wow.

 

[dem]

i think i've had some form of ADD or ADHD for most of my life, it seems to be getting progressively worse. my mind is hyperactive. i was curious if anyone else here has ADD and hairloss, and how you deal with it?

i was thinking that if your brain is hyperactive it might consume a greater percentage of the blood that goes to the head, so less goes to the scalp. i'm sure the stress isn't good for hair growth either. any thoughts or experiences?

thanks


s

As someone who has always had problems focusing on my studies since childhood, I have pondered whetether it was correlated. I doubt it but hey, who knows?

I actually drink Mate and take this stuff called Kava Kava which you may find at your local coop or natural foods shop. It helps me get focused. It is a natural root extract.

Good luck-

 

[Aplunk1]

(I just wrote the longest F-CKING POST!! I f-ING HATE INTERNET EXPLORER!!)


Diagnosed with ADHD when I was very young.

ADHD is present in most of my family members and extended family members, although I was the only one put on medication. It was upsetting, and my parents hated me for the energy and lack of "care" that I had. I didn't even know ADHD was a condition until my doctor put me on Ritalin.

I was always a very active and energetic child. I was disciplined on a daily basis and forced to join competitive sports so that I'd lose all my energy.

I was put on Ritalin. That worked great in small doses.

Then, as I got a bit older, I was put on Adderall and Adderall XR. They helped, but not as great as Ritalin.

Then, I was put on Strattera (non-stimulant), and I had nasty side effects and supreme edginess.

I've been off my ADHD meds for a few years. I hope to never use them again. In all, the experience of my parents forcefeeding the stimulants to me, with coffee, on an empty stomach brings back painful memories.


Things that help me, or **some** ADHD individuals:

Classical music when studying .

Caffeine (Greatly helps my ability to focus)

Rigorous Exercise

 

[s.a.f]

i was thinking that if your brain is hyperactive it might consume a greater percentage of the blood that goes to the head, so less goes to the scalp. i'm sure the stress isn't good for hair growth either.

:lol: Thats got to be one of the best ones I've heard yet! :lol: (classic)

 

[Trebor]

What were we just talking about?

 

[scientist]

thanks for the responses

i'm not currently taking any meds, i'm considering adderall

it would be nice to find something non-prescription that helps

i don't mean to imply that i think ADD directly caused my hairloss, i started losing my hair in my early teens so i'm sure it was a number of causative factors coming together like a perfect storm, like testosterone and genetic predisposition. somehow i don't think having a hyperactive mind helped though, with all the anxiety and stress. i did read randomly on one website that thinking to much promoted hairloss, and stereotypically i see bald men as more intelligent in general, so i'm also wondering if there is a connection between brain activity and how that affects blood supply to the head. just random thoughts

s

 

[Aplunk1]

Scientist,

Adderall can be great if you truly do suffer from lack of attention and organizational skills. It's like having a huge Oooomph put into your system every morning, then you're off to go do your best.

It can be problematic, also.

Adderall dosage is usually increased as treatment progresses. The patient becomes more and more tolerant of the effectiveness of the drugs.

One of the side effects of ADHD-stimulant medications is hairloss.



That's just my two cents.


But, to comment about your insight about balding men and intelligence, I've often considered the intellegentsia to be bald/balding, and the dimwitted crowd to have baldness, too.

I don't feel there's any truth between the two, but it's an interesting observation, nonetheless.

By the way, I check our your website routinely.

Excellent results.

Are you capable of styling your hair?

 

[Apoc]

I swear people are getting more stupid each day. IT'S male pattern baldness IT DOES NOT ROTT YOUR BRAIN SO STOP ACTING LIKE A RETARD!!!

 

[scientist]

i doubt there is a link between intelligence and hairloss, i'm just wondering if in the same individual a hyperactive brain might mean less blood and nutrients going to the scalp, and if that individual would just relax then maybe their scalp would get a little more blood, just my food for thought

i've been feeling like my hair gets a little better and a little worse at the same time, like 2 steps forward and 1 step back

i've had issues with dandruff, so when i'm trying to get flakes out with my fingernails i lose some hairs

i've never been able to style my hair, even when i had a full head of hair it would never do what i wanted it to do, no body to it, so i'm just going for a combed down look, kinda like jim carrey in dumb and dumber, i would never think of combing it back

my first 2 strips were with seager, and his idea was for me to comb that hair back like he did with his, so i wonder if that's how he orientated the grafts from my procedures with him.

i didn't find adderall to list hair loss as a possible side effect, but i have read reports from people online wondering if it is making them lose hair, but i think you could find those for any ADD/ADHD drug or anti-depressant

s

 

[JayB]

i doubt there is a link between intelligence and hairloss, i'm just wondering if in the same individual a hyperactive brain might mean less blood and nutrients going to the scalp, and if that individual would just relax then maybe their scalp would get a little more blood, just my food for thought

case closed.

 

[michael barry]

Scientist

Phase two has started at ICX. They are using 1000 injections. 900 over a large balding area and 100 in a square cm of completely bald scalp (up front). I think our problems with hairloss are reaching their coda now. They really think this is gonna work. There is an interview with Dr. Paul Kemp on hairsite you can read now. I think its the last days of baldness.


By the way...................man men all over the earth go bald. Smart ones, dumb ones. Caucasoids and Indians, both indo-european peoples seem to bald a bit more. But Japanese and Chinese bald also. Blacks get bald, but you dont notice it as much because many just shave their heads because they look good shaved. We dont unfortunately. I used to think guys in the middle east didnt bald much, but when I look at the footage of Iraq and Palestine........................I see quite a few balding guys.


Its just male hormone man, just like stumptailed macaque balding, orangutan balding, chimp balding, bonoboos balding. All of the apes that bald.....................give em' finasteride and it stops. They dont seem to have the immuno component to their balding that we do and thats why their hair will regenerate more consistently with finasteride.

This is what I think about baldness. ......male hormones bind with receptor sites (DHT primarily, but just T in experiments hurts hairgrowth relative to control in ex vivo cultures), and specific antigens get released to the rest of the follicle cells by the dermal papilla cells. We know TGF-beta 1 does, but PKC and a few other antigens probably get released as well. This slows growth. Dr. Rolf Paus, a famous researcher, thinks there might be a tiny subclinical inflammation that takes place in the hair follicle of these predisposed areas of the scalp......................and our more evolved immune systems begin to sense this as a foreign body, the immuno marker cells stick around and mark the follicle, and the T-cells and the rest of the immuno-posse shows up later and begins a modulated attack on the follicle. Lymphocytic streamers appear under the follicle (Dr. Hideo Uno) seemingly pushing up on the follicle, the collagen in the connective tissue sheath gets hard and thus makes it hard for the dermal papilla to re-enlarge in the next anagen phase, the follicle gets scarred, the superoxides sent by the immune system damage the microcapillaries that must re-enlarge 4 fold to reach the follicle in the next anagen phase to make it to the papilla to nourish the hair. All this bad sh*t happens.


4-5 genes and how they interact probably cause baldness in human males. Ive seen and have pics of women who shot themselves up with testosterone and went bald because of it (they wanted to be men). Testsoterone ages dermal tissues. Not good for the skin or hair. One important gene is the variant of the androgen receptor gene that some men have. 98.6% of balding men have this gene while only 76% of non-bald men have it. It seems its necessary almost always to have that gene to go bald. Dr. Angela Christiano found 3 other genes linked with baldness. How they interwork is what probably makes us go bald.


Scientist, your mind races because your supersmart. Youre studying cancer at Vanderbilt. Lots of high-IQ folks think fast. Its why doctor's handwriting is notoriously horrible. Their hands cant keep up with their minds. But I really believe within 5-7 years now at most, we'll all be able to have our hair back.

 

[scientist]

the thing with hm or stem cells is that if it does become available then you have to wait to see if there are any longterm adverse effects, i guess the more you care the longer you wait. i don't think anyone can be sure about that until it has been experienced.

i agree that testosterone is a factor, i'm just curious about other potential factors

i'm not supersmart, i'm too easily distracted, wasting my time online

btw my boss is hal moses, he found tgf beta (at the same time as anita roberts) so now we get unlimited tgf beta free

s

 

[Trebor]

It's true for sure. Only smart men go bald. Thats right. Einstein wore a wig.

 

[michael barry]

Scientist,
You might try the scalp excersises to get more blood flow to your scalp. They are described at hairloss-reversible.com. Basically you wrinkle your forehead and relax, then pull your ears back.

You alternately contract the frontiallias muscles under your prefrontal cortex, and then contract the occipitalis muscles at the back of your head. The fan-shaped muscles around the ears get in the action. Its like moving your ears forward, and then back.

It DOES tone up the face and pulls back on the facial skin. Kinda like a natural face lift. The scalp feels "pumped" up with blood afterwards, because it is. Its done twice a day for about five minutes. The frontiallis muslces will get bigger and thus angiogenesis will occur within them (more capilllaries) making this area more vascular. They are not far removed from the layer of the scalp that bears hair, so it stands to reason this will pump some more blood up to the follicles.


Just headstands a couple of times a day can rush blood to the scalp also.

By the way, TGF beta 1 is a negative growth factor to the hair. Its one of the bad things that get released in DP cells to the rest of the follicle. We dont want that.

 

[s.a.f]

By the way...................man men all over the earth go bald. Smart ones, dumb ones. Caucasoids and Indians, both indo-european peoples seem to bald a bit more. But Japanese and Chinese bald also. Blacks get bald, but you dont notice it as much because many just shave their heads because they look good shaved. We dont unfortunately. I used to think guys in the middle east didnt bald much, but when I look at the footage of Iraq and Palestine........................I see quite a few balding guys.

Its just male hormone man, This is what I think about baldness. ......male hormones bind with receptor sites (DHT primarily, but just T in experiments hurts hairgrowth relative to control in ex vivo cultures), and specific antigens get released to the rest of the follicle cells by the dermal papilla cells. .

Liked this bit good common sense.

 

[s.a.f]

Scientist,
You might try the scalp excersises to get more blood flow to your scalp. It DOES tone up the face and pulls back on the facial skin. Kinda like a natural face lift. The scalp feels "pumped" up with blood afterwards, because it is. Its done twice a day for about five minutes. Just headstands a couple of times a day can rush blood to the scalp also.

Then you go and let yourself down.
The restricted blood supply theory is about 200yrs old. Also its the blood supply that delivers DHT to your follicles.

 

[amibald]

i doubt there is a link between intelligence and hairloss, i'm just wondering if in the same individual a hyperactive brain might mean less blood and nutrients going to the scalp, and if that individual would just relax then maybe their scalp would get a little more blood, just my food for thought

case closed.

i was just about to do that

 

[scientist]

i don't mean to imply that a hyperactive brain by itself will cause your hair to fall out. i believe hairloss is caused by many factors. maybe einstein was not genetically predisposed to go bald, maybe he had low testosterone, who knows


i'm just curious if others have had negative life experiences similar to mine

i have been doing scalp exercises for a while, i do it semi-regularly now without even thinking about it

s

 

[michael barry]

S. A. F. wrote : "Then you go and let yourself down.
The restricted blood supply theory is about 200yrs old. Also its the blood supply that delivers DHT to your follicles."


Almost all DHT that gets transcripted by androgen-receptors is made in the outer root sheath of each and every head and beard hair follicle. Type 2 alpha reductase enzymes reside in the outer root sheaths of these follicles and in the prostate. Type 1 DHT is in skin sebocytes, sebaceous glands, chest skin, back skin, liver, kidney, and adrenal glands.

DHT is not very chemically stable, as its easy to knock those two hydrogen atoms off the molecule. DHT created in your chest skin has almost zero opportunity to make it to your scalp without being changed back to testosterone, andro, DHEA, DHEAS, etc.

Propecia does not cut serum testosterone all that much. But it does cut quite a bit of the testosterone made in the scalp. Tests of type 1 alpha five reductase inhibitors reveal very little difference in hair diameters relative to controls. In other words, DHT made in the sebocytes and sebaceous glands doesnt make it over to the follicle and gets uptaken all that often. Dutasteride is more effective than propecia primarily because it inhibits 98% of type 2 wheras finasteride only gets 90%. Blood flow does not bring all that much DHT to the follicle at all, but it does bring vital nutrients to the follicle like vitamin b-complex, MSM, zinc and copper. The part of the male pattern baldness process that involves the superoxides from the immuno response to the weakened follicle is what degenerates the microcapillaries that feed precious nutrition to the struggling follicle. Building up capillaries underneath these capillaries forces bloold through them and expands the cell walls of the follicle's microcapillaries, thus releaseing NO from those cell wall and for some angiogeneis (regrowth) of the capillaries to take place.