average joe

[Guest]

I saw the season finalle. It was pretty sad. The good news is that we had a balding guy make it to the top 3. But anyways, it just shows that looks will always prevail over the average joe. The average joe was actually a millionaire and you can see how the girls reaction to him completely changed when she founded out.

In this battle Looks prevailed over money. The winner seemed like a nice guy though. I think if "Adam" the loser was good looking he woulda won for sure. Its sad cause he seemed like a really nice cool guy and it seemed like he lost cause he didnt look like a model. Ahhh we live in a vien world.

 

[Mr T.]

The balding bloke who made it to the final three was doing quite well actually. He blew it for himself when he started bad-mouthing the fat chick (who was really the pretty chick in disguise) when he thought he was off-camera.

But this guy was tall, had a decent build, and masculine features. He was also arrogant, which women can mistake for confidence.

Just goes to show you hair's not everything. If you're a handsome fellow who's in good shape and has confidence, you can still do reasonably well for yourself.

Jeremy

 

[Anita]

I saw it too and was extremely disappointed. She actually seemed like a sensible woman when she kicked off Zack. But she was a total idiot to have chosen Jason. I was completely shocked. But, as someone else pointed out, Jason is more like the Average Joe-- no personality, lives with his parents, only has looks going for him. Adam was way above average-- smart, funny, great personality, humble, etc.
I say if she didn't choose him, definitely her loss.

I can't believe they are doing a second Average Joe so soon. I though they might reverse the roles and do Average Jane or something.

 

[Mr T.]

I'm still waiting for the eagerly anticipated Joe I-don't-have-an-STD.

 

[Guest]

Yea Anita I completly agree with you. Watching the whole show up till the decision I was pretty confident the average joe was going to win. Anybody could tell that he was a really nice, caring, loving person. I am 100 percent postive he would of won if he was good looking. He was not to bad looking in my opinion, but he didn't look like a supermodel.

But I have to admit the guy that won seemed like a pretty good catch. He was good looking but he also seemed like a really nice guy. But it didn't seem he had any relationship with the girl and she just chose him because of his looks. He said himself that their relationship was just on looks and they didn't really know eachother to well.

I saw the preview for the average joe hawaii and it looks good. They sure had a bunch of dorky guys. To me those guys where below average guys. They where plain nerds from what I saw. No average guy comes off so nerdy. They really need to even it out more.

 

[Guest]

Oh yea the balding guy that got eliminated blew it with the duff fat girl comments. I think he woulda made it to the top 2 if he didn't say it. But i noticed that 2 also Mr T. Even though his hair looked horrible he still held his own because he had a decent build and a decent face and carried himself like he was a player.

And anita, I would love to see them do an average jane.

 

[Hairybush1]

Saw the show too and I already knew she was gonna pick the good looking guy.

All her life she had guys telling her she is gorgeous and there is no way in hell that after all that attention she could go so low as to be with someone who didnt match her in looks.

Looks totally matter for her and it showed in the first episode, when she nearly had a panic attack after meeting all the average guys.

I wont blame her though, as i would have probably taken the unemployed, hot bimbo over a bucktoothed rake of a woman with a golden heart. Hey, Im taking a hormone unbalancer and rubbing sh*t on my head for looks. Yes, I suck...:roll:

 

[elguapo]

yeah, not too sure how I feel about it. She had her choice between looks and money. I make pretty good money, but I'd rather a girl like me for who I am rather than how much I make. So in a sense I was rooting for the looker, not the richer.

You could see the connection she had with the rich and (at times) goofy guy- that connection is what matters. Looks will fade.

Why is it when you meet a(nother) guy who is balding, you might think "poor guy", especially now that we find ourselves in that realm, or at least heading in that direction. But you still think they look good, like it's not a big deal at all if it's somebody else- THEY look fine- but when we look at ourselves...

Hmmm...

 

[Redbone]

That was all bullshit younguy, you really are young. You will see the true ways of the world when you get to be my age of 34.

The average guy never even had a chance, beautifal people want to be with beautifal people that is that. If she did not enforce the drama there would not be a show. The supermodel chose the metrosexual big surprise.

Guys, the nice ugly common man will always loose to the sexy pretty boy, ah but alas there is an alternative, the bad *** who cares guy like vin diesle, Bruce Willis, Jesse James etc I fashion myself after them and do quite well. Hot chicks know that a pretty boy is not going to get them out of trouble but a bad boy type will.

To make things interesting in that show they ought to throw in a bad boy type like Tommy Lee of Fred Durst along with the average guys and the pretty boys and see how things go.

Younguy, you will never get a pretty girl unless you yourself are very handsome or have a shitload of money, that is just life son.

 

[AD]

What made those guys average more than their looks was their self-confidence...I mean you could tell they didnt have much experience with women and were just drooling all over the girl...Some guys were talking like she was the one as soon as they saw her, whats that about? you havent even TALKED to her yet...

Women arent idiots, they can pick up on these things, and if you act like you are pathetic and no one wants you, well then obviously no one will probably want you...

I would have loved to have heard one of the guys actually say, she's attractive, but I am not sure SHE'S right for ME...its a two way street boys, no need for you to do all the work trying to get a woman...

 

[lentara]

YoungGuy,
Looks will not always prevail. Someday we are all gonna be old. Beauty fades, personality stays.
Yeah, it sucks that so many people are so superficial...but some people actually have the brains and the guts to go for substance over looks.
Confidence, pride of appearance (ie hygiene, dressing decently, manners, kindness, etiquette (not Emily Post but basic etiquette), ethics; spirit...the list goes on ...These things are much more important than looks will ever be.
At least, that's what I hope, pray, and I'm gonna keep on believing no matter how cynical I tend to get sometimes. (and I can get VERY cynical :evil: )

 

[Guest]

Redbone-

I thought the average joe was gunna win cause he had a ton of money. It really made him look good when he was a successful milliionare and the other guy just lived with his parents.

And one thing I know about girls is money does count. Girls will overlook a ton of your flaws if you are rich. I think it evened out the competition a lot when he announced he was rich.

No offense redbone, you post seems like you are depressed. Seems like you are frustrated with the opposite sex. To be honest with you I don't really give a sh*t if I get a hot chick or not. If one comes to me she will come to me. If she doesn't its not the end of the world. Looks dont last forever anyways. I dont stress over if I am gunna get a hot chick in the furture or not cause I dont really care. And you didn't tell me anything I dont know. If you are ugly there is no way you are gunna get a hot chick even if you have a heart of gold. You either gotta be decent looking with a ton of money or good looking.

The main reason I care about my hair is cause I wanna feel good about myself and be comfortable with my hair. Most guys on this forum care about their hair loss because they are worried they will never get a hot girl to go out with them again. That doesn't even really matter to me. I would rather feel good about myself. Plus I had my time at the top. I was a really good looking kid growing up and it was awesome. At least I was really good looking for most of my life so its less depressing for me now. It is harder for guys who never had or never will have some time at the top.

Having a hot girl being your girlfriend is just a minor thing in life.

 

[al_pacino]

Well, from my more limited experience (I'm 22), I can say that confidence is a must. Then, the obvious ''I want someone financially secure" line :2gunsfiring_v1: will be brought up at some point.

As far as I've been told, I look pretty decent (enough to date "babes"). I thought until recently like redbone, that woman end up being attracted by bad boys.

I am a pretty convincing :evil: baddass :evil: in person, though the thing is, where I'm currently studying, the only type of woman approaching me are hyperactive lunatics, which in return, am only too eager to get the f#@# away from me one way or the other.

Now my point is that we are perceived differently according to the mentality where live in. Here, I've been told (in odd circumatances) that I was seen more of a "loner" than a baddass (but no one dared telling it to my face (even the lunatic chicks)). That doesn't make much sense, but I still haven't had no gf here... ensativo:


Acting tuff, being nice, being bald...no matter your situation, if you're not boyfriend/husband/concubine material for her from the very start (i.e. if you do not match many criteria on her crappy list) then she won't even bother looking at you seriously. I'd be more than interested to hear any different point of view on that!


Woman do not change because of us (our attitude, personality), but because of the conditions changing for them. Whether affectively, socially, humoristically, monetary, muscularly, etc... men are always a g@$dam PROVIDER. From that perspective why wouldn't money give the impression of paving a golden road to happinness? Goodbye yellow brick road? I don't think so.


Bottom line:

I'd rather have unprotected sex with MJ's chimp than again be with a golddigging "babe". I might still be young and foolish in saying so, but I wish to say to those who still are after babes : PROVIDE till you die (and BTW try to be happy)


Just my 2 cents here; sometimes, I'd like to make holes in my wall after bearing the crap of "babes" and hyperactive jezebels, but wouldn't it only take off points for me on their precious criteria list? :firing:

al_pacino is sooooo...:adminfinger:

 

[lentara]

Where are you guys finding these gold-digging shallow women is what I want to know???? It gives women a bad name! :freaked2:

 

[al_pacino]

Where are you guys finding these gold-digging shallow women is what I want to know???? It gives women a bad name! :freaked2:

I don't even have to look hard, only b#$ches speak up here (more or less 10% of all women). The others are either mute or something (i.e. ALL those I talked to (for more than 5 min) are REALLY kept to themselves to the point of it being ridiculous). I study in a "puratyranical" city. Some are openly golddigging and shallow and the others, well you can only find out for yourself (but that remaining 90% or so are really not easy to get to know WELL).

I realize that not all girls are like that, but in cities like here (Quebec City) there is a :dropmouth: high concentration of them (yes, it's THAT bad).

 

[Guest]

You wanna know what girls want. I will tell you what my sister and all her hot friends want in guys cause they tell me all the time.

Good Looking guy

Tall
Muscular (Just at least have your average build, not fat not thin)
Nice Teeth
Nice Eyes
Good style

They gotta be cool and have moves. They gotta be cool around friends and be able to talk to people.

Funny
Nice
Confidence
Able to compromise
Caring
Sensitive
Good with people

Talk to the girl and really listen to her. Really pay attention to her.

Have goals and ambition or have a good job. Cant work at mcdonalds.
And do the little things that show you care.

Most girls even super hot girls are insecure about something. You need to make them feel like they are f*****g hot sh*t by always giving them compliments. Make them feel good about themselves.

That my friends are the things that pretty much all hot chicks look for. If you have all these things you cant go wrong. Hell, if you just have half these things you will have good success. My sisters friend is really hot and she is going out with a decent looking balding guy (He covers it up really well) because he just treats her like a princess and has a great personality. A good persnality can get you a long way with girls. You would be surprised.

 

[al_pacino]

Good Looking guy
Tall
Muscular (Just at least have your average build, not fat not thin)
Nice Teeth
Nice Eyes
Good style

They gotta be cool and have moves. They gotta be cool around friends and be able to talk to people.

Funny
Nice
Confidence
Able to compromise
Caring
Sensitive
Good with people

Talk to the girl and really listen to her. Really pay attention to her.

Have goals and ambition or have a good job. Cant work at mcdonalds.
And do the little things that show you care.

I have most of that except the "good with people" bit which is either there or not (at all). :angel: :eplus2:

The main thing is that although, I might have/have had most of these qualities, I had a really bad one: I can hardly ever compromise. I've been told I was too mature for my age and not tolerant enough (I was brought up like that, so it's not that easy to just forget about it now).

I must not be the only one with a nasty flaw in my personality, but the other qualities do not make up for it anymore with girls.

 

[Guest]

Why is it when you meet a(nother) guy who is balding, you might think "poor guy", especially now that we find ourselves in that realm, or at least heading in that direction. But you still think they look good, like it's not a big deal at all if it's somebody else- THEY look fine- but when we look at ourselves..

Thats funny you mention that because I was thinking the same thing the other day. I saw a bald guy and he looked pretty decent bald. If I talked to him before I was balding I wouldnt of thought anything of him being bald. If he told me his balding was bothering him I would just think "poor guy" and then think "He still looks ok though".

But now that I am balding and I have to look at my hairline everyday. Even though I look ok in most peoples eyes, its hard for me to deal with.

 

[lentara]

Young Guy,
You sure stirred up some interesting stuff w/this thread.
Al Pacino,
Dude. The only thing I can say for your situation is that really, really sucks.
The thing is I've got a guy friend who is good looking, a great, great person but he keeps running into women who either lead him on or are just up front b*tches. which, as a woman, really p*sses me off!!
Coming from the opposite side of the "arguement"...all the bullsh*t is basically why I just don't give a flying f*ck if I find anyone or not.

 

[al_pacino]

Young Guy,
You sure stirred up some interesting stuff w/this thread.
Al Pacino,
Dude. The only thing I can say for your situation is that really, really sucks.
The thing is I've got a guy friend who is good looking, a great, great person but he keeps running into women who either lead him on or are just up front b*tches. which, as a woman, really p*sses me off!!
Coming from the opposite side of the "arguement"...all the bullsh*t is basically why I just don't give a flying f*ck if I find anyone or not.

Thanks, lentara. Sorry I couldn't tell you were a woman by looking at your avatar.

Now I'll just put on my Michael Myers mask for tomorrow's class. :eye-popin: