Balance my hormones , bryan?

[Newbaldy84]

Basically I am looking for something that with let my body (arms and legs)hair grow. The problem I have is finasteride works wonders for me and not only for hair on my scalp but it knocks out that oily face Ive been struggling since I turned 15 and help with acne. It's a wonder drug if you ask me but...........(why there always needs to be "but" right? I guess that's life) it works opposite when it comes to my body hair. It makes them lifeless laying on the skin. It takes 2 days that I don't take finasteride and my body hair raises and becomes normal looking. Please give me some ideas. Anybody? will counter finasteride "side effects" work in making my body hair more alive? I thought of these options.
1. Taking finasteride and countering it with something reducing estrogen
2. Taking finasteride and using cream gel with testosterone or dht on my legs and arms (stupid I know)

Come on guys there has to be something that will make that dht that controls body hair be more effective and at the same time will work good on my head.
I hate hormones
please help me balance all this
give me some options and I'll try them
thx

I made an observation that after exercise for 1 hour or more my hair raises which would mean that I would need to lower my estradiol levels cuz that's what exercise does right?

 

[Gene_Fighter]

How old are you Newbaldy? And what is your hair loss like on the Norwood scale? Honestly I think that if Finasteride is working for your hair loss on your head, then you need to just consolidate your gains and also re-evaluate your perceptions about your body hair, as it seems you might be perhaps over-eager/over-exaggerating/confused about the state of your body hair.

It's nearly physically impossible for you to be able to see any visible changes in your body hair after discontinuing finasteride for only two days, and also, I can tell you that working out for an hour will have absolutely no immediate effect on your body hair (unless your feeling some kind of thrill of exhiliration that gives you goose-bumps; is this what you mean by "hair raises"? I'm not sure, let me know what you mean by this).

Furthermore I can tell you that hair loss and body hair are both directed by genetics and have very little to do with the amount of exercise you get. I'm 22 and healthy and haved exercised regularly my entire life, and I'm around stage III on the Norwood scale. Certain extreme cases do merit a change of environmental factors to stop hair loss and stimulate growth--but this doesn't apply for most men with male pattern baldness.

If your still set on changing your body hair (honestly I would re-evaluate this), then you could try minoxidil in liquid or foam.

 

[Newbaldy84]

thx I am 23 and the visible change I am taking about is not so major change but still visible to me. Even after 2 days off finasteride my body hair is more alive and don't lay flat on skin. Funny thing and I know many will disagree but the perfect way to see for me if dht is blocked is my eyebrowns. If I block dht they become flat and lay on my skin which is good cuz then it doesn't look so bushy. I went off finasteride for 2 days and after 2 days my eyebrows raised. I am not talking about change in thickness of the hair cuz like you mentioned it would be impossible in such a short time but I am talking about DHT and the way it makes my hair come to live or dead laying on the skin. I tested saw palmetto 2 days ago. In fact it did block dht topically and made my browns flat.

 

[hairrific]

Hi Newbaldy84,

Are you saying that you want more body hair, or thicker perhaps, maybe adding some to areas where there is none? Bet you want to put on some weight too like allot of young guys I know.

At 23 maybe you think it would make you more manly or something but be careful what you wish for because generally speaking as a man ages his body hair increases, and increases in areas god forbid, your back, your *** cheeks, your ears, so are you sure you want to encourage the growth of body hair at such a young age? Your going to be in for a treat later on in the form of a fat bald gorilla!

 

[Newbaldy84]

not exactly.....what I want is to be able to unblock dht on my body legs and arms but still use finasteride as to stop my hair loss. finasteride is blocking DHT all over my body which makes my body hair looks like sh*t (life less and very thin) I just want to balance this sh*t once and for all. HELP!!!


I think it was Bryan or michael Berry who used lavender oil and it stimulated hair on his toe so I may try that

 

[ali777]

I guess we want what we don't/can't have...

I'd personally be happy if I lost most of my body hair. I'm not a big fun of body hair...

I actually don't have an answer to your question. I just wanted to say that some people would be happy to be losing body hair.

 

[Gene_Fighter]

Agreed. Ironically the more hair I lose on my head the more I grow everywhere else. Thanks God. That's a funny joke. Yeah. That's a good one. Nice work.

 

[yvakin]

I'd be happy if i loose all of them(i mean body hair). :tellme:

 

[Rework24]

gene fighter - i have noticed the same as you. It has often made me wonder if there is a link between head hair reducing and body hair increasing!

 

[hairrific]

Propecia generally will make skin and body hair softer but only slightly, less of it and more pleasing.

Growing more scalp hair and less body hair is universally accepted as cosmetically appealing in most industrialized nations so it is It is real ironic that anyone would want more leg and arm hair when every magazine or model or weight lifter is SHAVING OR LASER it off. But at 23 years old how can you see the light?

It is strange we don't see more in depth discussions on body hair because this forum is about people trying to look good by helping their hair and part of looking good is not having hair growing all over your shoulders and back and coming out of your ears. Hairy knuckles anyone? This is not even on the radar of young 20 somethings who have yet to activate those hairs.

 

[Newbaldy84]

you are so right. Finasteride is a perfect drug for me and when I mean perfect I mean PERFECT. It grows my head hair it makes my skin all over my body smother and softer. my face is looking younger and oily face which Ive been struggling since 15 is gone whenever I am using finasteride. All is so good only for this little change on my body hair. I agree with you it is ironic that the more we lose where we need it the most the more we gain where we hate it the most. I also notice when on finasteride my upper arms gets more fatty looking like girls. I am in great shape> I work out everyday but this kind of bother me too a little. hmmm I guess I have to chose what's more important to me it's my head hair and no more oily face and will try to cope with the rest. I am still looking for something though like maybe DHT GEL or Cream but with only local effect so it won't get systemic and attack my head hair. Something has got to be there!!!

 

[Bryan]

my face is looking younger and oily face which Ive been struggling since 15 is gone whenever I am using finasteride.

What do you think about that study which found no effect at all on sebum production from using finasteride?

 

[Newbaldy84]

excuse my ignorance bryan but if there was such a study. It's absolutely 100% incorrect. I am perfect example. With finasteride I get perfect skin. No oil production and that dirty feeling when having oily face. I feel normal and my face is so refreshed. I went off finasteride for 2 moths but I am back on it simply cuz benefits of finasteride surpass the negativity. I started loosing ground so I jump back on it. Topicals on their own are not enough. finasteride is just perfect. f I could only get my leg and arm hair a little ticker and more alive. Maybe increase blood circulation ? Anyway back to that study Bryan. if there was such it just shows that we should not always rely on them.

 

[Bryan]

The study showing that finasteride has no effect on sebum production was done by none other than Julianne Imperato-McGinley, the famous doctor who did the original research on the "pseudohermaphrodites" in the Domican Republic. It's been widely quoted in medical journals, and I'm sure it's not the ONLY study showing a lack of effect on sebum by finasteride.

The posters on hairloss sites are a funny breed: sometimes they attempt to make connections between things that have no real medical legitimacy. In fact, I've often mentioned on these sites that for every person who claims to have DECREASED sebum with finasteride, you can find another person who claims INCREASED sebum with finasteride! That right there oughtta tell you something!

 

[hairrific]

Are we saying that a degrease in sebum would mean more body hair? And no increase in sebum would mean more?

But finasteride has little action on sebum according to study.

Anyhow, I was told by my derm. (physician assistant) who gave me my first propecia script that it would decrease body hair.

Bryan, funny you should mention "how people attempt to make connections between things", this is true, yes! For a year or so before I got my prescription I absolutely refused to use Propecia because those stupid commercials said in so many ways that it would help prevent hair loss, and I in my twisted logic I thought "if I take a pill internally that grows head hair, it will grow body hair too so I am not going to get on Propecia cause I don't want to grow body hair."

Maybe I am the only dumb one to have done this, :whistle: . I wonder how many people unfamiliar with Propecia automatically might think that. I say Merick should redo there advertising or something because it caused me to ignore the product and take my money elsewhere for a while.

 

[hairrific]

excuse my ignorance bryan but if there was such a study. It's absolutely 100% incorrect. I am perfect example. With finasteride I get perfect skin. No oil production and that dirty feeling when having oily face. I feel normal and my face is so refreshed. I went off finasteride for 2 moths but I am back on it simply cuz benefits of finasteride surpass the negativity. I started loosing ground so I jump back on it. Topicals on their own are not enough. finasteride is just perfect. f I could only get my leg and arm hair a little ticker and more alive. Maybe increase blood circulation ? Anyway back to that study Bryan. if there was such it just shows that we should not always rely on them.

OK, you want instant gratification, huh, maybe this is to obvious but what if you try a growth stimulant like Minoxidil all over arms and legs, but go easy on it, take a very light 2% dose and monitor your blood pressure! And don't forget your sunscreen! :woot: :dunno:

Gosh, I feel bad like I just gave a 13 year old boy steroids so he can skip childhood and jump right into looking like a man. :shakehead:

 

[Newbaldy84]

I have eyes and I can tell you exactly what finasteride does to my body. How it changes it.
When not taking finasteride:
Face oily and looking old, hairloss, body hair thicker and growing faster, hot flashes, horny all the time.
When taking finasteride:
Face not oily anymore looking refreshed and young, body hair growing slower beocming thinner, less horny but not much and no more hot flashes. Also when I went off finasteride I noticed being more
aggresive and with finasteride I am calmer.
this is read drug seriously. I always hated my oily skin. I could never stop that oil. I used B5 10grams which cuts oil production but also makes your skin dry. finasteride works a little different. It cuts oil and makes my skin perfect.

Because of that I don't believe some of these studies cuz it works sometimes differently on people.

Minoxil 2%??
I don't now should i risk it?
That was my first line of deffence agains my hairloss I used 5% back then and it caused major shed!!! I quit minoxidil and jump onn finmasteride that's when I started to recover and Ive never had shedding after that agan. My hailoss problem is DHT!! I am loaded with it all over my body.

 

[Bryan]

Are we saying that a degrease in sebum would mean more body hair? And no increase in sebum would mean more?

No, we're not saying either of those things. I don't think sebum has anything to do with hair.

But finasteride has little action on sebum according to study.

Correct.

Anyhow, I was told by my derm. (physician assistant) who gave me my first propecia script that it would decrease body hair.

Yes, it might decrease body hair slightly on average, but I wouldn't expect miracles from it.

Bryan, funny you should mention "how people attempt to make connections between things", this is true, yes! For a year or so before I got my prescription I absolutely refused to use Propecia because those stupid commercials said in so many ways that it would help prevent hair loss, and I in my twisted logic I thought "if I take a pill internally that grows head hair, it will grow body hair too so I am not going to get on Propecia cause I don't want to grow body hair."

Yep, androgens and antiandrogens have opposite effects on scalp hair and body hair.

 

[Jack]

finasteride or dutasteride have absolutely no effect on either sebum , body hair or acne for me. Made me realize not to believe too much in these forum posts where people rave about their skin improvement (or worsening , or any other side effects for that matter).

 

[yvakin]

Can anyone tell me how much hormonal test usually cost?